Keep Sweet: Obey and Pray... a study in how masses of people can be conditioned to do and believe.

[strollingbones]

so iamwhatiseem you are telling others who to engage with? who does that remind you of?

why doesnt anyone question the specialists who experiment on these kids?

 

[pknopp]

Nice try to deflect.
No one is buying it

It's no deflect. It's my opinion. It's what we do here. It's my opinion that any complaint about morals ring hollow from anyone that supported Trump.

 

[pknopp]

When I see a so-called argument shrouded in religious innuendo I discount it out of hand.

So like me, you discount this entire thread?

 

[pknopp]

And in the end, we had it better because those who spewed the same things of the ten commandments in power disappointed. This is why Progs and a percentage of Repubs have never ending accusations to destroy him. Even if there is some disagreement on agendas. It is not easy in the political world for men and women who promote what is right but seems to be wrong because the moral and ethical fiber brings a lot of baggage to us all. We do not have to condemn people for it of course. But the Prog side condemns people for not being what they are now.

Great, I guess dismissing the things we used to hold dear is the way to go.

 

[pknopp]

It can be noted that there are people trying to take us back to our old well established beliefs.

Group wielding White nationalist flags march along Boston's Freedom Trail on July 4 weekend

 

[1srelluc]

So like me, you discount this entire thread?

Negative....Just your post.

 

[22lcidw]

Great, I guess dismissing the things we used to hold dear is the way to go.

The things we held so dear have become the enemy of sanity because it must keep going to its direction of insanity. And it sucks.

 

[pknopp]

The things we held so dear have become the enemy of sanity because it must keep going to its direction of insanity. And it sucks.

I understand. You should get out and march with those trying to protect the things held so dear.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Can you imagine? How far we have fallen. We had a man leading the country who sat up all night calling people names he didn't like. Routinely using the Lords name in vain. Was known to brag about his adulterous relationships. There was a time we would have broke out the stones over that.

He had no compunction to stop him from just making up whatever he wanted to in an attempt to make himself look good. Many times he fraudulently took hard earned money from others.

He was a walking example of the warnings of the ten commandments. I never thought when I was young I'd ever see the day......................

Huh?!?! This isn't about obama, bush, trump, clinton, biden.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

It can be noted that there are people trying to take us back to our old well established beliefs.

Group wielding White nationalist flags march along Boston's Freedom Trail on July 4 weekend

Are they burning buildings down, pillaging, looting etc like antifa and blm?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

so iamwhatiseem you are telling others who to engage with? who does that remind you of?

why doesnt anyone question the specialists who experiment on these kids?

If that is what you get out of it... that is on you.
Obviously I am not.
You are not that simple minded. You are fully capable of grasping more than just a quick talking point to deflect what the entire premise is.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Huh?!?! This isn't about obama, bush, trump, clinton, biden.

Again - all pknopp is doing is trying to deflect from the topic.
This is more than Democrat vs. Republican.
This is about how people can be manipulated and mind fucked into thinking even the most outrageous, egregious behavior is not only acceptable... but to be celebrated.

Would I want to close down adult strip bars? No
Gay strip bars? No, for the same reason.
Adult bookstores? No
But do I think it is wrong to expose preschoolers and early grade school children to it?? - Hell yes.
And do I think we, as a society, should be able to admonish those that are doing it? - Hell Yes.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

People can be conditioned to do and believe anything.

Religion could not exist if this were not the case.

WHat about children "expressing themselves" sexually? Surely not... right? Well that is already happening. But if that is okay, who can honestly say that their will be no child strippers performing for other children

For 40 or more years we have had female children as young as Kindergarten preforming in "pageants" where they were dressed up like hookers and did provocative dances all in the name of a "beauty pageant". And it was not crazy left coast hippies doing this to their kids, it was mid-western Christian families. Nobody ever complains about this and it is a far bigger problem than any of the things you list.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For 40 or more years we have had female children as young as Kindergarten preforming in "pageants" where they were dressed up like hookers and did provocative dances all in the name of a "beauty pageant". And it was not crazy left coast hippies doing this to their kids, it was mid-western Christian families. Nobody ever complains about this and it is a far bigger problem than any of the things you list.

Are you kidding me?
That is not even close to being true.
Many-many-many people, including me right on this forum and many others right on this forum complained about that shit. It was fucking horrible.
That is not an example of "the other side" doing it - so what? That makes it right? Two wrongs equal a right?
You are actually making my point.
PEOPLE CAN BE CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT ANYTHING.
Including the outrageous act of sexualizing preschoolers to dress as women and have them dance provocatively in front of adults. No less wrong.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Religion could not exist if this were not the case.



For 40 or more years we have had female children as young as Kindergarten preforming in "pageants" where they were dressed up like hookers and did provocative dances all in the name of a "beauty pageant". And it was not crazy left coast hippies doing this to their kids, it was mid-western Christian families. Nobody ever complains about this and it is a far bigger problem than any of the things you list.

In other posts, I have equated the transgender kid moms with pageant moms. It's the same dynamic, the kid makes some reference to being interested in something - pageants or being trans - and the mom sees an opportunity to relive her youth by seeking attention for the child. She runs with it, never stopping to ask herself whether the child really wants this.

In either case, once the ball starts rolling and the parents are invested financially and emotionally, the child cannot realistically stop it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Many-many-many people, including me right on this forum and many others right on this forum complained about that shit. It was fucking horrible.

Plus it has been going on forever and no "red" state has ever tired to outlaw it. Never has it been an issue nationally like we see today from the folk on the right over transgendered people.

There were TV shows that glamorized the kiddie pageant events.

You are actually making my point.
PEOPLE CAN BE CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT ANYTHING.
Including the outrageous act of sexualizing preschoolers to dress as women and have them dance provocatively in front of adults. No less wrong.

Yep, they sure can.

 

[whitehall]

I wonder if the religious hating left understands that the theory of "man made global warming" is a religious cult. It was started by a failed politician who had no background in science but wanted to make a buck by selling "carbon credits". As a true believer you have to disregard your senses when you are freezing your ass off and have faith that it's really global warming and it's Uncle Sam's fault for producing all those things we need in dirty factories. You have to have faith that miles of ugly solar panels made in freaking China with haz-mat material are really making a difference and you have to believe Brandon, the high priest, that you can survive in the 21st century without fossil fuel.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Plus it has been going on forever and no "red" state has ever tired to outlaw it. Never has it been an issue nationally like we see today from the folk on the right over transgendered people.

That is true. Maybe such shenanigans should have been outlawed. They are horrible.

But here is where the comparison fails: Kiddie pageant contestants bleach their hair, put on lipstick, wear high heels and ridiculous outfits. But when the pageant is over, they can take that stuff off, and let the bleach grow out. Advocates for "transgender care" for eight year-olds, intend for them to have hormones and surgery, which are not reversible.

Let a beauty pageant mom seek breast implants for her ten year old to compete with older girls, or a mastectomy for her twelve year old so she can still compete in child pageants, or hormones to speed up or slow down the process of puberty. Then you'll see the red states up in arms as they are about the same procedures for transgender children.

There were TV shows that glamorized the kiddie pageant events.

And there are TV shows that glamorized the transgender parents putting their kids through surgeries and hormones. It's a sick world we live in sometimes.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The Media's Role and Entertainment industries role..........

After - and this is the important part - AFTER - the cults leader, Warren Jeffs, was convicted of two accounts of "Assisting the rape of a minor child"... the American media, and celebrities mystifyingly took the side of Warren Jeffs. Or at least, used their abilities as a platform for Warren to broadcast his propaganda.
After the conviction of Warren, law enforcement learned of other atrocities happening at the YFZ Ranch. (Yearn for Zion, or simply - Zion) They had enough first hand accounts of rape and child trafficking that they went to the ranch to remove the children, and were shocked to see there were over 400 small children there, most without their parents.
So how did the media react??
The took the side of the religious cult and demonized law enforcement.

Oprah Winfrey on two occasions broadcasted the most one-sided showing of the ranch you could imagine. Law Enforcement was livid, investigators saying they presented Winfrey with examples of what they found - but she chose to only show their side of the story..



Oprah's decision to produce a glowing report is unclear, and to this day no one understands - REMEMBER - this was AFTER their leader was convicted on two accounts involving rape of a child.

And then other national media blasted law enforcement for taking the children, this also despite Jeffs conviction and the 100s of examples of violations.
WHY DID THEY DO THAT?

In the end law enforcement was vindicated 6 months later when they received a warrant to search the ranch and discovered the true horror that took place there - AND THE VERY WOMEN ON OPRAH'S SHOW - were actively involved in being nursemaids for babies born my 12-14 year old mothers... who on her show denied they ever saw underage girls getting pregnant. To which Oprah did not question.


Same thing today. The news media and the entertainment industry are glossing over what is really happening with the LGBQT's most radical members' agenda involving young children.

 

[pknopp]

Are they burning buildings down, pillaging, looting etc like antifa and blm?

No, they just want to take us back to the days of Jim Crow. Given those options, let it burn.