Kamala Wants Price Controls on Groceries, Venezuelan-Style

[Lisa558]

Realistically how do you see the president force grocery stores to do that? That power is t in our system. And if it was, what makes you think a president would force a 1% profit margin?

Like I said it’s much adu about nothing

Then if she can’t fix prices, why did she say she would? Just another Kamala lie, with the hopes of fooling the useful idiots?

 

[Slade3200]

Then if she can’t fix prices, why did she say she would? Just another Kamala lie, with the hopes of fooling the useful idiots?

I explained that in my first post. It was populist hot air. You can call it a lie if you want. Trump does that shit all the time so be consistent. It’s what politicians do to show what they represent. When it comes to realistic policy it is always different than what they campaign on

 

[Slade3200]

Let me ask you: is the socialist also demanding that all WAGES be fixed? And construction materials? And rental fees? Because otherwise, her Communist-style proposal will fail immediately.

No she isn’t saying any of that stuff. Which is why, 1. She isn’t a socialist and 2. The price gauging policy isn’t going anywhere

 

[Lisa558]

No she isn’t saying any of that stuff. Which is why, 1. She isn’t a socialist and 2. The price gauging policy isn’t going anywhere

Then she shouldn’t have made up such an outrageous lie.

Of course she’s a socialist to the extent that she is a big believer in giving to those who need and taking it from those who have. And of course, “need” as defined by her. She thinks lower-income people who don’t have the ability or discipline to save “need” a house, and thus she will take money from those who did have the ability to provide one.

And her blaming high prices on “gouging” by corporations and her proposal to raise their taxes speaks to her anti-capitalist beliefs. If the stupid DEI pick wins, you can count on every corporation being less able to profit, and thus less valuable, which will kill the middle class’ retirement portfolio.

Socialists like when people are dependent on the government, and that’s what she’s aiming for.

 

[Lisa558]

Then she shouldn’t have made up such an outrageous lie.

Of course she’s a socialist to the extent that she is a big believer in giving to those who need and taking it from those who have. And of course, “need” as defined by her. She thinks lower-income people who don’t have the ability or discipline to save “need” a house, and thus she will take money from those who did have the ability to provide one.

And her blaming high prices on “gouging” by corporations and her proposal to raise their taxes speaks to her anti-capitalist beliefs. If the stupid DEI pick wins, you can count on every corporation being less able to profit, and thus less valuable, which will kill the middle class’ retirement portfolio.

Socialists like when people are dependent on the government, and that’s what she’s aiming for.

P.S. to Slade: Are you a government employee or pensioner? Around here, the people who are voting for the socialist are set for life and aren’t worried. Those of us who had to build our own retirement plan are.

 

[Slade3200]

Then she shouldn’t have made up such an outrageous lie.

I agree. It’s the same dig I have on Trump as he pumps out the exact same kind of “outrageous lies”, as you like to call them.

 

[Slade3200]

Of course she’s a socialist to the extent that she is a big believer in giving to those who need and taking it from those who have.

If that’s how you define socialism then our country and every single politician in it is socialist as we have always had those kind of tax and spend programs in our government. That’s not an intellectually honest argument though

 

[Slade3200]

And her blaming high prices on “gouging” by corporations and her proposal to raise their taxes speaks to her anti-capitalist beliefs. If the stupid DEI pick wins, you can count on every corporation being less able to profit, and thus less valuable, which will kill the middle class’ retirement portfolio.

There were and are companies that take advantage of consumers during a crisis. It happens. That’s what she is speaking to

 

[HikerGuy83]

You are correct if that was the case, however, I don’t see a realistic scenario where that would actually happen

There should be no scenario where a grocery store is not allowed to set it's own prices.

If it prices itself out of the market......bye bye.

If you don't like the price....DONT BUY IT. And yes that includes GASOLINE, EGGS and MILK.

 

[HikerGuy83]

If that’s how you define socialism then our country and every single politician in it is socialist as we have always had those kind of tax and spend programs in our government.

Only to an extent. But now almost 25% of our GDP goes through D.C.

Way way way way way too much.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I think the underlying tone in what we are both saying goes to the fact that political candidates talk a lot of fluff while campaigning that isn’t realistic.

Agreed

Unfortunately what we as voters need to do is cut through the fluff and look at the actual things they could do and what the impact of those actions would be.

I would say that we don't need them doing a lot of what they are doing. And there are very few things they "could" do that I think they "should" do.

I also realize this is my POV and I can only put my vote in with millions of others.

Our economy is driven by capitalism, not the government and not the president.

Agreed. Or it should be anyway.

But capitalism has it's pitfalls and it's watchouts. The government, as in the case of anti-trust, is needed.

But for what she is saying....she is either stupid or she is lying out her rear end.

Bottom line on the issue of Harris stoping price gauging… it’s going nowhere beyond the laws that are already in place

And yet she uses it to be a "person of the people" when in reality, she joins Trump as someone who is "a person who lies to the people".

 

[Lisa558]

I agree. It’s the same dig I have on Trump as he pumps out the exact same kind of “outrageous lies”, as you like to call them.

Like what? (Other than the wall.) He lowered taxes like he promised. And he had the border secure, despite the liberals’ objections. He also made good on his promise to move the Israeli embassy to Israel. He put together that great Canada-Mexico-America deal.

 

[Slade3200]

There should be no scenario where a grocery store is not allowed to set it's own prices.

If it prices itself out of the market......bye bye.

If you don't like the price....DONT BUY IT. And yes that includes GASOLINE, EGGS and MILK.

I agree for the most part. But when you have communities dependent on a limited number of businesses selling essential goods during emergency situations I see justified protections from allowing those businesses to take advantage of people. It’s takes a lot of time, money, options and circumstances to drive an unethical business out… sometimes it doesn’t happen, so some legal protections can be helpful

 

[Lisa558]

There were and are companies that take advantage of consumers during a crisis. It happens. That’s what she is speaking to

No, she’s not. She said she’s going to fix prices.

 

[Slade3200]

No, she’s not. She said she’s going to fix prices.

Again, it’s hot air. She doesn’t have the ability to fix prices. It’s like Trump building a wall and Mexico paying for it. Not something in his control. Or repealing and replacing Obamacare. Hot air

 

[Lisa558]

I agree for the most part. But when you have communities dependent on a limited number of businesses selling essential goods during emergency situations I see justified protections from allowing those businesses to take advantage of people. It’s takes a lot of time, money, options and circumstances to drive an unethical business out… sometimes it doesn’t happen, so some legal protections can be helpful

There aren’t a limited number of businesses selling essential goods. We have tons of grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, etc.

Let businesses set their own prices. If they go greedy, they can’t keep customers. Too low, and they can’t keep their business. The market determines the price.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I agree for the most part. But when you have communities dependent on a limited number of businesses selling essential goods during emergency situations I see justified protections from allowing those businesses to take advantage of people. It’s takes a lot of time, money, options and circumstances to drive an unethical business out… sometimes it doesn’t happen, so some legal protections can be helpful

The only way a business that is inefficient or unethical survives the market (generally speaking) is if the govenment props it up...which it does.

There are times it is necessary (I already cited anti-trust), but Harris is talking groceries where margins are razor thin and they count on huge turnover of goods to make their money. How stupid would it be to slow that down by trying for just a little more margin.....you'd go under.

 

[HikerGuy83]

No, she’s not. She said she’s going to fix prices.

She said she'd stop gouging.

Not that she has the brain cells to tell you what that is.

Nobody can. What is the defintion ?

Government control of prices was tried by Nixon and it bit him in the ass big time.

 

[Obiwan]

Government control of food, medicine and housing. What could possibly go wrong.

The government could devalue the currency more by printing a few trillion more dollars. Then we can take a wheelbarrow full of money to the store, hoping to buy a few rolls of toilet paper (if it's available), like they do in Venezuela!!!

 

[Lisa558]

Again, it’s hot air. She doesn’t have the ability to fix prices. It’s like Trump building a wall and Mexico paying for it. Not something in his control. Or repealing and replacing Obamacare. Hot air

The wall was the one thing he said that didn’t come true, but he did help people with the Obamacare catastrophe by not forcing people to buy it. In most ways, he made good on his promises - much more so than any president I can remember.

In the meantime, Kamala is offering meaningless promises that won’t go anywhere - from free down payments of $25k to punishing grocery stores by fixing their prices. Name one positive thing she is promising that makes sense, and that America can afford, and that will not hurt Americans.