Kamala supports NO RESTRICTIONS on abortion

[TNHarley]

Yeah, I just totally disagree that we should be able to kill a viable human being, no matter if inside another's human's body. Every human should have rights, including the unborn.

I understand the pro-life stance. I just dont think govt should have the power to force gestation on people.

 

[TNHarley]

Those types of statements are what bothers me. I believe in certain scenarios where the unfortunate decision to abort a pregnancy is an option.

But what bothers me is the rhetoric that a "Freedom is being taken away". Like what? Every woman and man who engages is sexual activity can, either before or during the engagement do the following:

• Wear protection
• Be on birth control
• Don't have sex
• Don't pressure a woman into sex
• Ladies, choose better sexual partners that won't pressure you to have sex without protection
• Fucking pull out, it's not full proof, but better than nothing
• Engage in other sexual activities rather than vaginal sex: oral, hands jobs, butt, foot, I don't care.

The statement that Kamala purposes is that most women don't have a choice about sex. We know that's not the case. So, take advantage of all the other freedoms available before the last 'choice' is the only viable choice.

"dont have sex"
Yes, dont have sex, the most natural thing on the planet, because you are scared of the state forcing you to go through something you arent ready for.

 

[DBA]

I understand the pro-life stance. I just dont think govt should have the power to force gestation on people.

But to what extent? A woman decides that she just doesn’t want a baby in the 8th or 9th month. No health risk, just a personal decision. Are ok with that despite her having a human inside of her that could survive with the same amount of care required for any other baby that is born full term?

 

[TNHarley]

But to what extent? A woman decides that she just doesn’t want a baby in the 8th or 9th month. No health risk, just a personal decision. Are ok with that despite her having a human inside of her that could survive with the same amount of care required for any other baby that is born full term?

At that point, she could just give birth, right?

 

[Arlette]

Conholes are afraid of women voters.

 

[JoeB131]

JoeB131 My point is still true... Roe V Wade had restrictions and some states removed them others did not.... there is no legal way Roe could be changed or amended in any way without a constitutional convention or at least an act by Congress... so some states once again dummy made changes via the bill you are referring to...

Well, no, guy, Roe only allowed for restrictions in the third trimester that were completely nullified by Doe v. Bolton. Of course, it's a largely moot point because no one has a third-trimester abortion unless something has gone horribly wrong, and there are very few doctors who even specialize in it. That's why it was a big deal when a Wingnut Fanatic killed Dr. Tiller after being told to do so by Fox News

Some states HAVE decided to enshrine reproductive rights, which is a good thing.

Guns aren’t used for protection?

Nope. DGU's are rare. Only 200 homicides a year by civilians with guns are ruled "Justified". Compared to 19,000 homicides and 25,000 suicides, it hardly seems worth it.

The Supreme Court has routinely upheld the right to keep and bear arm, overturning many restrictive laws from looney states and cities like yours.

Yes, and the murder rate has shot up since then. Good work, everyone. Good work.

Again, three Supreme Court picks, and the Second is about Militias again.

Or we just lift the liability protections for Gun Sellers and make them responsible when some lunatic who thinks he's the Joker shoots up a school or a shopping mall.

Unborn Victims Act - Even when Roe v Wade was still enforceable, this law was passed. MOST states recognize a “fetus” as a homicide victim. Now that Roe v Wade was overturned, this Act has an even more stable legal foundation.

And we've seen how these kind of laws have been abused to go after people like Purvi Patel, who had a miscarriage. This is why you guys can't be trusted.

 

[JoeB131]

Ahhh way to divert. So you do want the Govt to pay for abortion. So you don’t want the Govt to stay out of it.

It’s not that I am against UH but it won’t happen. The insurance industry and it’s lobbyists won’t allow it.

Actually, it's pretty much inevitable because the people are a little sick of the Insurance Industry and their nonsense.

 

[JoeB131]

But to what extent? A woman decides that she just doesn’t want a baby in the 8th or 9th month. No health risk, just a personal decision. Are ok with that despite her having a human inside of her that could survive with the same amount of care required for any other baby that is born full term?

Except that only happens when the fetus is deformed or there's a threat to her health.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The cult overlords are using this lie to manipulate the dumb cult fucks.

WHAT RIGHTS WERE REMOVED FROM WOMEN IN CALIFORNIA?

 

[DBA]

Nope. DGU's are rare. Only 200 homicides a year by civilians with guns are ruled "Justified". Compared to 19,000 homicides and 25,000 suicides, it hardly seems worth it.

You just don’t get it. You can’t remove guns in the US. Criminals will always have them. You may not like it, but that is a cold hard fact. That puts non-criminals at a distinct disadvantage.

Also, whehter you realize it or not, having an armed populous is absolutely a deterrent to government tyranny. It is not a matter of whether the military can defeat citizens with superior weaponry, it is a numbers game. Those that put all their faith and trust in the government are like sheep to slaughter. In case you don’t know it, those are largely Democrats in this country. Weak, ignorant and gullible. Governments world-wide that want full control of the people would love nothing more than to have a populous full of US left-wing Democrats.

Yes, and the murder rate has shot up since then. Good work, everyone. Good work.

That has nothing to do with guns. It has to do with the erosion of morality thanks to secular Democrats like yourself. Funny that years ago nobody worried about a kid having guns in their gun rack in their trucks at school. Gun are not the issue, people like you that support an immoral, answer to nobody, do it if it feels good society are the real problem. It also doesn’t help that you and your kind have groomed an entire generation to be void of personal responsibility and blame anybody but themselves for everything they do.

Again, three Supreme Court picks, and the Second is about Militias again.

The Supreme Court has made it clear. We have the right to bear arms. Period, end of story. Leave it to a Democrat to remove rights of the people. Talk about self-destruction.

Or we just lift the liability protections for Gun Sellers and make them responsible when some lunatic who thinks he's the Joker shoots up a school or a shopping mall.

Not a tenable position. Gun sellers can’t be responsible for somebody who loses it and uses the gun they bought 5 years ago to murder someone. That is ridiculous.

And we've seen how these kind of laws have been abused to go after people like Purvi Patel, who had a miscarriage. This is why you guys can't be trusted.

We can be trusted to keep nuts like you from killing babies. Somebody has to stop you freaks from pushing your radical agenda. Believe it or not, everyone hasn’t been living in a vacuum in Chicago. Laws in 38 states will charge a murder with multiple homicides if they kill a pregnant woman. Illinois, being the wacko state it is, may not be one of them, but that just means they are in the minority. Sane people don’t support your state and cities nutty, extreme views.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actually, it's pretty much inevitable because the people are a little sick of the Insurance Industry and their nonsense.

You are again spouting nonsense. Lobbying control our politicians. No chance lobbyists for the insurance industry allow it. I feel like I am talking to a child. Go and study political science.

 

[JoeB131]

You just don’t get it. You can’t remove guns in the US. Criminals will always have them. You may not like it, but that is a cold hard fact. That puts non-criminals at a distinct disadvantage.

Except Western Europe and Japan ban guns, and they have VERY LITTLE crime and VERY LITTLE gun violence. So Gun control doesn't work unless it's the UK, Japan, France, Italy, Germany, Canada,...

Also, whehter you realize it or not, having an armed populous is absolutely a deterrent to government tyranny. It is not a matter of whether the military can defeat citizens with superior weaponry, it is a numbers game. Those that put all their faith and trust in the government are like sheep to slaughter. In case you don’t know it, those are largely Democrats in this country. Weak, ignorant and gullible. Governments world-wide that want full control of the people would love nothing more than to have a populous full of US left-wing Democrats.

Guy, guns don't stop tyranny. Contrary to what you hear on RW Websites, guns were pretty prolific in Weimar Germany despite half-hearted efforts to control them. (That ironally, the Nazis later repealed). Not one German rushed out to stop the Nazis. The "Good Germans" never showed up.

The fact that you and at least 47% are willing to put Trump back into power shows that tryanny is easy to fall into.

That has nothing to do with guns. It has to do with the erosion of morality thanks to secular Democrats like yourself. Funny that years ago nobody worried about a kid having guns in their gun rack in their trucks at school. Gun are not the issue, people like you that support an immoral, answer to nobody, do it if it feels good society are the real problem. It also doesn’t help that you and your kind have groomed an entire generation to be void of personal responsibility and blame anybody but themselves for everything they do.

Guy, back in those days, not that many people had guns. In 1940, there were only about 40 million guns for 140 million people. (And yes, this was after some very sensible gun laws were passed in the 1920's after gang violence racked the cities with Prohibition). Today we have 400 million guns out there, more guns than we have people. More to the point, the gun industry has decided that marketing to the most unstable nuts out there was a good business strategy.

The Supreme Court has made it clear. We have the right to bear arms. Period, end of story. Leave it to a Democrat to remove rights of the people. Talk about self-destruction.

The Supreme Court made it clear that a woman has the right to abort her pregnancy until she doesn't.

The rest of us who aren't compensating for tiny penises have to live with security guards, metal detectors, active Shooter Drills, militarized police, all because of your weird little fetish.

Not a tenable position. Gun sellers can’t be responsible for somebody who loses it and uses the gun they bought 5 years ago to murder someone. That is ridiculous.

Except most mass shooting happen within weeks of the crazy person buying the gun. In fact, every time there's a mass shooting, I predict two things. 1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts and 2) it was way too easy for him to get a gun.

Now, here's the thing. When I got a mortgage, I had to wait thirty days while they pretty much performed a financial colonoscopy on me. Forget that I had a perfect credit score and no debt, and had previously paid off two mortgages and two HE loans.

When I applied for a job, they did a thorough background check, made me piss in a cup, talked to my former employees and coworkers,

When I sponsored my wife for residency, We had to pay $4000 in processing fees and submit 200 pages of documentation proving it wasn't a green card wedding.

When I applied for an Illinois FOID card, I paid $11.00 and filled out a form swearing I wasn't a criminal or mentally ill. That was it.

One of these things, is not like the others.... three of these things are kind of the same.

We can be trusted to keep nuts like you from killing babies. Somebody has to stop you freaks from pushing your radical agenda. Believe it or not, everyone hasn’t been living in a vacuum in Chicago. Laws in 38 states will charge a murder with multiple homicides if they kill a pregnant woman. Illinois, being the wacko state it is, may not be one of them, but that just means they are in the minority. Sane people don’t support your state and cities nutty, extreme views.

Except we've already seen how these laws have been abused by going after women who have had miscarriages.

We also saw in Scott Peterson's case, the emotional charge of "killing a baby" will make people convict on the most flimsy evidence.

 

[DBA]

Except Western Europe and Japan ban guns, and they have VERY LITTLE crime and VERY LITTLE gun violence. So Gun control doesn't work unless it's the UK, Japan, France, Italy, Germany, Canada,...

Guns aren't the issue. Culture is the issue.

The fact that you and at least 47% are willing to put Trump back into power shows that tryanny is easy to fall into.

Yeah, ok.

Guy, back in those days, not that many people had guns.

Maybe not in your wacko state, but where I live EVERYBODY had a least one gun. I mean EVERYBODY. People have armed themselves even more over the last few decades to protect themselves from the violence that you urban dwelling Democrats propagate.

The Supreme Court made it clear that a woman has the right to abort her pregnancy until she doesn't.

Yeah, they turned it back over to the state where it should have been all along. If you like killing babies in the 9th month for any reason in Illinois, you and your fellow nuts can pass a law and join the 9 other states that currently allow that. Roe v Wade actually prevented that because even they recognized how nutty and evil that is. You should be happy that evil nuts like you can allow such evil where you live.

The rest of us who aren't compensating for tiny penises have to live with security guards, metal detectors, active Shooter Drills, militarized police, all because of your weird little fetish.

Yeah, you lefties sure are studs, let me tell you. Real manly men you are. Funny stuff.

Now, here's the thing. When I got a mortgage, I had to wait thirty days while they pretty much performed a financial colonoscopy on me. Forget that I had a perfect credit score and no debt, and had previously paid off two mortgages and two HE loans.

Funny, I didn't have that issue. My mortgages have all been approved in less than 1 day. Weird.

When I applied for an Illinois FOID card, I paid $11.00 and filled out a form swearing I wasn't a criminal or mentally ill. That was it.

Easy like registering to vote, right? No proof of anything, just a pinky swear. You don't seem to have a problem with that.

Except we've already seen how these laws have been abused by going after women who have had miscarriages.

Not really. Very rare cases and typically medical malpractice, not based on any restrictive abortion laws.

 

[Rambunctious]

Well, no, guy, Roe only allowed for restrictions in the third trimester that were completely nullified by Doe v. Bolton. Of course, it's a largely moot point because no one has a third-trimester abortion unless something has gone horribly wrong, and there are very few doctors who even specialize in it. That's why it was a big deal when a Wingnut Fanatic killed Dr. Tiller after being told to do so by Fox News

Some states HAVE decided to enshrine reproductive rights, which is a good thing.



Nope. DGU's are rare. Only 200 homicides a year by civilians with guns are ruled "Justified". Compared to 19,000 homicides and 25,000 suicides, it hardly seems worth it.



Yes, and the murder rate has shot up since then. Good work, everyone. Good work.

Again, three Supreme Court picks, and the Second is about Militias again.

Or we just lift the liability protections for Gun Sellers and make them responsible when some lunatic who thinks he's the Joker shoots up a school or a shopping mall.



And we've seen how these kind of laws have been abused to go after people like Purvi Patel, who had a miscarriage. This is why you guys can't be trusted.

Roe V Wade did not allow 2nd trimester abortions... unless harm would be done by not doing one... learn it... live it... accept the truth... you are just wrong... you must be thinking about your blue state rules...
Besides why the fuck do you care so much?... are you a pregnant chick?... you care more about it than a woman...

 

[JoeB131]

Guns aren't the issue. Culture is the issue.

Nope. It's guns, buddy. The Japanese have far more violent movies and videogames than we have, but they don't have guns. (Seriously, if you want some truly mind-blowing stuff, you should watch Japanese action and horror movies!) They have less than 10 gun murders a year.

Maybe not in your wacko state, but where I live EVERYBODY had a least one gun. I mean EVERYBODY. People have armed themselves even more over the last few decades to protect themselves from the violence that you urban dwelling Democrats propagate.

Since you won't tell us which inbred state you live in, no one can check that.

Yeah, they turned it back over to the state where it should have been all along. If you like killing babies in the 9th month for any reason in Illinois, you and your fellow nuts can pass a law and join the 9 other states that currently allow that. Roe v Wade actually prevented that because even they recognized how nutty and evil that is. You should be happy that evil nuts like you can allow such evil where you live.

Um, guy,as I've been pointing out to the other idiot, Doe v. Bolton is the law that allowed abortion up to the 9th month, not Roe. But they were issued on the same day, so the court knew what it was doing.

Yeah, you lefties sure are studs, let me tell you. Real manly men you are. Funny stuff.

I have a DD214 and a box of medals that say otherwise.

Funny, I didn't have that issue. My mortgages have all been approved in less than 1 day. Weird.

Right, so you got an approval on the loan for your double wide in one day. That is weird. I can't imagine any bank being that irresponsible.

Easy like registering to vote, right? No proof of anything, just a pinky swear. You don't seem to have a problem with that.

Again, we know that you guys would use these to practice voter suppression, you can't be trusted.

Not really. Very rare cases and typically medical malpractice, not based on any restrictive abortion laws.

One case is too many. Again, look up the case of Purvi Patel, or that of Shua Beibei. These were both women who had miscarriages and were prosecuted by the redneck states they lived in for fetal homicide.

 

[Flopper]

Right Wing Religious Nut Job "Birth control"...........................

Foster Friess: In my day, 'gals' put aspirin 'between their ...​

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“On this contraceptive thing, my Gosh it’s such [sic] inexpensive,” he added. “You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.”

Todd Akin: "Legitimate rape" stops pregnancy​

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"First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Missouri Senate hopeful Todd Akin said in an interview Sunday, explaining why his ideal abortion ban wouldn't include an exception for rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” he added.

They haven't evolved much since then.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statitics, 63% of rapes are unreported and 74% of sexual attacks go unreported.

A new study estimates that more than 64,000 pregnancies resulted from rape between July 1, 2022, and January 1, 2024, in states where abortion has been banned throughout pregnancy in all or most cases.

64,000 Pregnancies Caused by Rape Have Occurred in States with a Total Abortion Ban, New Study Estimates

Researchers calculated the number of pregnancies resulting from rape in states where abortion was banned throughout pregnancy after the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Lesh]

Kamalasupports a return to Roe

 

[Thunderbird]

Why should feminists champion killing babies in their mother’s womb?

The elite push a particular brand of pseudo-feminism because they desire population reduction.

Authentic Feminism is Pro-Life. Just Ask Susan B. Anthony

Women are at the forefront of historic life-affirming change in state legislatures and in Washington, shaping conversations everywhere about how we care for children and support families.

www.newsweek.com

Asian Century Institute - Asia's missing women

Over 100 million women in Asia are "missing" because of selective abortion, infanticide or neglect.

asiancenturyinstitute.com

Abortion Harms Women

nebraskafamilyalliance.org

 

[JoeB131]

Why should feminists champion killing babies in their mother’s womb?

The elite push a particular brand of pseudo-feminism because they desire population reduction.

Because fetuses aren't babies.

Like it or not, family planning is the greatest anti-poverty program there is. the difference between poor countries and rich ones are their ability to have babies when they want to have them.

 

[Thunderbird]

Because fetuses aren't babies.

Like it or not, family planning is the greatest anti-poverty program there is. the difference between poor countries and rich ones are their ability to have babies when they want to have them.

The wealthy countries often kill off the next generation while people from the poor countries flood in and take over.