Just Got My New Rates for 2017...350% Increase! Are You Kidding?

[WillowTree]

There are rate increase letters going out to people across this country right now and when the people SEE what it is that you've saddled them with...they are going to go BALLISTIC!!!

Aren't you glad they sent out the letters before the election?

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

 

[Andylusion]

There are rate increase letters going out to people across this country right now and when the people SEE what it is that you've saddled them with...they are going to go BALLISTIC!!!

Aren't you glad they sent out the letters before the election?

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

That is exactly what they want, and they will screw over the entire country, and ruin people's lives to get it. Read Atlas Shrugged. It's practically a documentary of what is going on right now.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

How the hell do they expect us to pay for this? I'm in shock. I'm seriously in shock.

Work two jobs. Sell body parts. Downsize to a tent. Cut back on unnecessary spending like beer, chips, TV, internet .....
It's for the greater good.

That's right, we all have to make small sacrifices to make it work for everyone. How many of us really need two lungs, or 2 kidneys? Small sacrifices.

 

[Fenton Lum]

There are rate increase letters going out to people across this country right now and when the people SEE what it is that you've saddled them with...they are going to go BALLISTIC!!!

Aren't you glad they sent out the letters before the election?

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

Ever wonder why that is? Others can do this with much less wealth than we can with all we have? WHO and others consistently rate US healthcare outcomes far behind other nations, for the planet's most expensive healthcare system. Fine with me, blame whoever you want, but that will never resolve anything, it in fact feeds the system who is quite comfortable with the way things are.

 

[Fenton Lum]

There are rate increase letters going out to people across this country right now and when the people SEE what it is that you've saddled them with...they are going to go BALLISTIC!!!

Aren't you glad they sent out the letters before the election?

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

That is exactly what they want, and they will screw over the entire country, and ruin people's lives to get it. Read Atlas Shrugged. It's practically a documentary of what is going on right now.

Ah, a Randian, that explains it all now.

 

[Andylusion]

Here we go....

Ah yes, I remember the old days where I used to just buy insurance and pay for it.

Now I have to bow before government and pray for insurance. Oh, the gov-gods said I can't have any. I guess I just go without. Thanks Obama. Thanks a ton Dumbocrats. Thanks so much Socialist looking out for my welfare. I'm so much better off now.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Here we go....

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Ah yes, I remember the old days where I used to just buy insurance and pay for it.

Now I have to bow before government and pray for insurance. Oh, the gov-gods said I can't have any. I guess I just go without. Thanks Obama. Thanks a ton Dumbocrats. Thanks so much Socialist looking out for my welfare. I'm so much better off now.

My guess is you got it through an employer like most of us, but ok.

 

[WillowTree]

Aren't you glad they sent out the letters before the election?

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

Ever wonder why that is? Others can do this with much less wealth than we can with all we have? WHO and others consistently rate US healthcare outcomes far behind other nations, for the planet's most expensive healthcare system. Fine with me, blame whoever you want, but that will never resolve anything, it in fact feeds the system who is quite comfortable with the way things are.

When you get ready to agree that we need a flat tax on absolutely everyone to fund your wildest desires for a European lifestyle get back to me.

 

[WillowTree]

The bottom line is Obammie is mandating that you buy a product you cannot afford and if you do not buy it they will tax your ass off! Yay democrats. Yay!

 

[Fenton Lum]

You know what, Willow? Anyone with a dollop of common sense and an 8th grade education could do the math and see that none of the numbers added up for what Barry, Harry and Nancy were promising us...so I knew I was going to see huge rate increases at some point. I'm shocked by how much it's increasing though. How do they expect people to pay for this?

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

Ever wonder why that is? Others can do this with much less wealth than we can with all we have? WHO and others consistently rate US healthcare outcomes far behind other nations, for the planet's most expensive healthcare system. Fine with me, blame whoever you want, but that will never resolve anything, it in fact feeds the system who is quite comfortable with the way things are.

When you get ready to agree that we need a flat tax on absolutely everyone to fund your wildest desires for a European lifestyle get back to me.

Typical. There's no reason we should not look at what works elsewhere and see if any variations on those themes might help us here, learning from the misstepes of others. If that frightens you, so be it, it will come, that investigation. The only question is, how high will the pile of bodies have to get. This is america after all, and people will always come behind profit.

 

[Vigilante]

OP is a selfish bastard. look at all the indigent and illegals that can now have Healthcare on YOUR money!!!!!

 

[WillowTree]

What they want is universal health care and they expect your taxes to cover that while 47% of them get a free ride! They ain't done with you yet.

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

Ever wonder why that is? Others can do this with much less wealth than we can with all we have? WHO and others consistently rate US healthcare outcomes far behind other nations, for the planet's most expensive healthcare system. Fine with me, blame whoever you want, but that will never resolve anything, it in fact feeds the system who is quite comfortable with the way things are.

When you get ready to agree that we need a flat tax on absolutely everyone to fund your wildest desires for a European lifestyle get back to me.

Typical. There's no reason we should not look at what works elsewhere and see if any variations on those themes might help us here, learning from the misstepes of others. If that frightens you, so be it, it will come, that investigation. The only question is, how high will the pile of bodies have to get. This is america after all, and people will always come behind profit.

From all your efforts to attain the moral high ground you have yet to tell us how we will pay for it.

 

[Manonthestreet]

How much per month are we talking...what will your rate be

 

[WillowTree]

Guess Fenton has no clue as to how to pay for it. I guess he still believes in the fairy godmother.

 

[S.J.]

It looks like I'll have to go without insurance. Unfortunately, I see no other option at this point.

Now you're catching on. They want you to die off.

 

[Andylusion]

Like those european systems that work better for less?

Hey! Dipshit. We don't live in Europe, you can get there though and live on their system. The reality is this country is 20 trillion in debt, 47% contribute no taxes to the federal system, they take and take and take and take and howl for more. Democrats own this clusterfuck lock stock and barrel. And do not tell us this will work better for less, did you not just hear the man tell you his premiumns are up 350%?

Ever wonder why that is? Others can do this with much less wealth than we can with all we have? WHO and others consistently rate US healthcare outcomes far behind other nations, for the planet's most expensive healthcare system. Fine with me, blame whoever you want, but that will never resolve anything, it in fact feeds the system who is quite comfortable with the way things are.

When you get ready to agree that we need a flat tax on absolutely everyone to fund your wildest desires for a European lifestyle get back to me.

Typical. There's no reason we should not look at what works elsewhere and see if any variations on those themes might help us here, learning from the misstepes of others. If that frightens you, so be it, it will come, that investigation. The only question is, how high will the pile of bodies have to get. This is america after all, and people will always come behind profit.

From all your efforts to attain the moral high ground you have yet to tell us how we will pay for it.

Leftists are not into logic and math. Only moral platitudes and utopian dreams.

 

[Andylusion]

It looks like I'll have to go without insurance. Unfortunately, I see no other option at this point.

Now you're catching on. They want you to die off.

Well of course. Under a socialist system, where the public pays for your needs, you are by definition a burden on the system. If you didn't exist, everyone else would be better off.

Under a capitalist system, by definition you get what you pay for, and thus you are a benefit to society.

 

[Andylusion]

Guess Fenton has no clue as to how to pay for it. I guess he still believes in the fairy godmother.

Well, last time I bothered reading any of his crap, his only response was that "other countries do it", which if you look at the UK doctor strikes over pay, the French funding crash, the Greek mass hospital closures, the 3 year long wait times in Canada, and of course the massive difference in 5-Year-Survival times between the US and the rest of the world... the argument "yeah other people do it" doesn't seem to be convincing.

It's like "other people do drugs and it works for them", then pretending all the rehab centers don't exist.

I still have yet to hear him even address the fact that all those systems have almost double the taxation. If you increase your taxes by 20%, is that really a better deal than insurance premiums.

 

[Care4all]

The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!

What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?

Hmmmm, your State has to approve any increase in rates from Florida Blue and they MUST be kept reasonable.... me thinks you need to question that 350% increase...

Whoops, see the Fla. Blue 2017 rate increases ordered taken down | Protecting Your Pocket

One of Florida’s largest health insurers says requested 2017 rate increases for four of its plans should not have been posted on healthcare.gov, but a reporter for The Palm Beach Post on Tuesday saw increases ranging from 5.22 percent to 11.61 percent.

“According to our Actuary team, what was posted were not the correct, final rates for Florida Blue – there are some adjustments that are not reflected in those numbers that were posted online,” said company spokesman Paul Kluding.

The company also known as Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida says Wednesday is the deadline for plans to submit and rates should not be made public until 10 days after that. A federal spokesman had no immediate comment.

Here is what the Post saw:


BlueSelect Small Group 5.22 percent
BlueOptions Small Group 8.72 percent
BlueOptions Individual 9.83 percent
BlueSelection Individual 11.61 percent


The incident comes amid a broader discussion of what is happening to health costs. As The Post reported, U.S. officials said last week that Floridians really pay an average of $84 a month after tax credits for Affordable Care Act marketplace plans — and that’s only up from $82 last year. It’s a 2 percent rise.

more info at this link too!

Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought

 

[S.J.]

I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.

In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.

Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.

ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.

Unfortunately the rest of us have to pay for their stupidity.

We've all been paying for american supidity all our loves.

Not American stupidity, LIBERAL stupidity.