Just got my 23andme genetic test results back

[Mini 14]

my ethnicity is African American and I don't apologize for a damn thing moron, I wouldn't change me for anything or anybody. Your impression of me is damn bogus, but keep whining I'm a racist, it makes me laugh every damn time that oversensitive, racially insecure retards like you are so easily manipulated

According to your DNA, your ethnicity is African American, European, and Native American.

Yet you deny the Native American and the European, and claim the European is the result of a rape several generations prior.

Remind me again how non-racist you are? I keep forgetting for some reason????

 

[L.K.Eder]

What some of you morons fail to realize is that African Americans having European ancestry is all a part of the slave legacy, thats not something you can just tell people to move on and get over with, that legacy shaped what is known as African Americans. That European ancestry is just one part of that legacy, the social stratification that we have in America today was shaped by it, the slavery legacy. The people to whom my paternal ancestry traces to in Africa, the Songhai people, on average, don't have skin as light as mine and eye color as light as mine and neither do Native Americans, so do the math and guess where it comes from. I as well as other African Americans are constantly reminded of that slavery legacy when and its carried in our genes.


The average African American has about 6-17% European ancestry, my case is unusual in that I have high percentage of Native American ancestry, which is low to negligible is most African Americans and most of that Native American ancestry is recent, very recent and was consensual, my grandmother is a Native American. In two separate genetic tests my Native American ancestry came out to be 40%, thats why a 15% European figure is too damn high.

maybe they sent you the test results of someone else

The Great Beyond: Consumer genomics company snafu

Due to errors in the lab, as many as 96 customers of consumer genomics company 23andMe “may have received and viewed data that was not their own”, the company informed customers in an announcement on its website (password protected) last Friday. [June 2010]

I have the new V3 platform so my results, at least as far as the Y chromosone and mtDNA were confirmed correct. My Y chromosone is E1a* with no known downstream markers and my mtDNA haplogroup is A. The problem with 23andme arises when they test East Africans and North Africans who's ancestry will show up as more European than African, but thats because these DNA tests were largely made for Europeans and their database of SNPs are mostly of those found in Europe.

why don't you just relax and wait some time until their databases have expanded and pour more money into them at that time.

i understand the urge to know ancestry, but this shit must be expensive.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Nobody here is defending slavery, bub.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans died to end it, while it is still practiced in other parts of the world even to this day.

I'll save my sympathy for those who are living slaves today as opposed to people who are fortunate to live in the U.S. under Constitutional protections.

I don't think Charlie wants or is asking for anyone's sympathy. He is merely honest about how he views the European lineage. If I were black, I might feel similarly, which is why I don't judge him on it. I know I wouldn't mind if I discovered some African bloodline in my family, but then - Africans have never enslaved the Irish. Those of a European heritage cannot say the same. Our ancestors were more likely to have owned slaves than have been slaves... although the Irish were badly treated by the English - and I have both bloodlines. I can understand where Charlie's coming from on this.

And he certainly is not a racist. He and I argue constantly... but, he's usually one of the first to my defense if anyone calls me a racist. He knows I'm not. I know he isn't. That's the way we roll.

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

I've stated I'm married you moronic jackass, if women find me to be hot, well is tough luck for them because I'm already happily taken so I could care less. You are a hater, its ok.

 

[mudwhistle]

What some of you morons fail to realize is that African Americans having European ancestry is all a part of the slave legacy, thats not something you can just tell people to move on and get over with, that legacy shaped what is known as African Americans. That European ancestry is just one part of that legacy, the social stratification that we have in America today was shaped by it, the slavery legacy. The people to whom my paternal ancestry traces to in Africa, the Songhai people, on average, don't have skin as light as mine and eye color as light as mine and neither do Native Americans, so do the math and guess where it comes from. I as well as other African Americans are constantly reminded of that slavery legacy when and its carried in our genes.


The average African American has about 6-17% European ancestry, my case is unusual in that I have high percentage of Native American ancestry, which is low to negligible is most African Americans and most of that Native American ancestry is recent, very recent and was consensual, my grandmother is a Native American. In two separate genetic tests my Native American ancestry came out to be 40%, thats why a 15% European figure is too damn high.

So you're 40% Native American, 15% European, and 55% African American. Seems you've got an extra 10% rolling around in there. I think you'd better recheck it.

One thing is for sure. You're 25% asshole, 25% dickhead, 25% racist, and 25% full of shit.

Btw, unless you've traced your genealogy you honestly don't know what your European ancestry means. It could mean we're all related.

You may be my cousin...gag.

According to 23ndme, my proportions are 55% sub-Saharan African, 30% Native American and 15% European, the two other companies tested me out as 55% sub-Saharan African, 40% Native American and 5% European.

Jackass, learn to read. Your ancestry is 110% pure jackass with a 10% margin of error.

I'm not obsessed with my ethnic origins. I'm a human-being. One of these days you'll learn that's all we are.

Then again, maybe not.

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't think Charlie wants or is asking for anyone's sympathy. He is merely honest about how he views the European lineage. If I were black, I might feel similarly, which is why I don't judge him on it. I know I wouldn't mind if I discovered some African bloodline in my family, but then - Africans have never enslaved the Irish. Those of a European heritage cannot say the same. Our ancestors were more likely to have owned slaves than have been slaves... although the Irish were badly treated by the English - and I have both bloodlines. I can understand where Charlie's coming from on this.

And he certainly is not a racist. He and I argue constantly... but, he's usually one of the first to my defense if anyone calls me a racist. He knows I'm not. I know he isn't. That's the way we roll.

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

I've stated I'm married you moronic jackass, if women find me to be hot, well is tough luck for them because I'm already happily taken so I could care less. You are a hater, its ok.

Being married never stopped anyone from thinking his shit doesn't stink.

Just look at Obama.

Now run along and get back to talking about yourself Bass.

 

[California Girl]

Nobody here is defending slavery, bub.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans died to end it, while it is still practiced in other parts of the world even to this day.

I'll save my sympathy for those who are living slaves today as opposed to people who are fortunate to live in the U.S. under Constitutional protections.

I don't think Charlie wants or is asking for anyone's sympathy. He is merely honest about how he views the European lineage. If I were black, I might feel similarly, which is why I don't judge him on it. I know I wouldn't mind if I discovered some African bloodline in my family, but then - Africans have never enslaved the Irish. Those of a European heritage cannot say the same. Our ancestors were more likely to have owned slaves than have been slaves... although the Irish were badly treated by the English - and I have both bloodlines. I can understand where Charlie's coming from on this.

And he certainly is not a racist. He and I argue constantly... but, he's usually one of the first to my defense if anyone calls me a racist. He knows I'm not. I know he isn't. That's the way we roll.

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

Are you mistaking me for someone who gives a shit what you think of me? Let me confirm it.... I don't give a rats behind what you think.

He's no more racist than you are. And.... he might be God's gift to women. I couldn't say.... but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

For the record, I like Charlie. He makes me laugh.... and I can fall out with him and he doesn't behave like a two year old and say 'I'm not your friend anymore'.... which makes him more of a man than many, in my opinion.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

maybe they sent you the test results of someone else

The Great Beyond: Consumer genomics company snafu

I have the new V3 platform so my results, at least as far as the Y chromosone and mtDNA were confirmed correct. My Y chromosone is E1a* with no known downstream markers and my mtDNA haplogroup is A. The problem with 23andme arises when they test East Africans and North Africans who's ancestry will show up as more European than African, but thats because these DNA tests were largely made for Europeans and their database of SNPs are mostly of those found in Europe.

why don't you just relax and wait some time until their databases have expanded and pour more money into them at that time.

i understand the urge to know ancestry, but this shit must be expensive.

I got the Christmas special for $99, and in addition to my ancestry they tested for genetic predispositions to diseases, like cancer risk, diabetes, color blindness, heart disease, the only catch to that discount is that my genetic data will used for comparisons to others.

 

[California Girl]

I don't think Charlie wants or is asking for anyone's sympathy. He is merely honest about how he views the European lineage. If I were black, I might feel similarly, which is why I don't judge him on it. I know I wouldn't mind if I discovered some African bloodline in my family, but then - Africans have never enslaved the Irish. Those of a European heritage cannot say the same. Our ancestors were more likely to have owned slaves than have been slaves... although the Irish were badly treated by the English - and I have both bloodlines. I can understand where Charlie's coming from on this.

And he certainly is not a racist. He and I argue constantly... but, he's usually one of the first to my defense if anyone calls me a racist. He knows I'm not. I know he isn't. That's the way we roll.

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

I've stated I'm married you moronic jackass, if women find me to be hot, well is tough luck for them because I'm already happily taken so I could care less. You are a hater, its ok.

I think you should PM me a pic. I'll decide whether you're hot or not.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

I've stated I'm married you moronic jackass, if women find me to be hot, well is tough luck for them because I'm already happily taken so I could care less. You are a hater, its ok.

Being married never stopped anyone from thinking his shit doesn't stink.

Just look at Obama.

Now run along and get back to talking about yourself Bass.

My crap does stink, everybody's but some stinks worse than others and you carry a strong stench so please wipe yourself before you say I stink. If I were you I'd probably hate me also. And every thread I make isn't about me.

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't think Charlie wants or is asking for anyone's sympathy. He is merely honest about how he views the European lineage. If I were black, I might feel similarly, which is why I don't judge him on it. I know I wouldn't mind if I discovered some African bloodline in my family, but then - Africans have never enslaved the Irish. Those of a European heritage cannot say the same. Our ancestors were more likely to have owned slaves than have been slaves... although the Irish were badly treated by the English - and I have both bloodlines. I can understand where Charlie's coming from on this.

And he certainly is not a racist. He and I argue constantly... but, he's usually one of the first to my defense if anyone calls me a racist. He knows I'm not. I know he isn't. That's the way we roll.

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

Are you mistaking me for someone who gives a shit what you think of me? Let me confirm it.... I don't give a rats behind what you think.

He's no more racist than you are. And.... he might be God's gift to women. I couldn't say.... but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

For the record, I like Charlie. He makes me laugh.... and I can fall out with him and he doesn't behave like a two year old and say 'I'm not your friend anymore'.... which makes him more of a man than many, in my opinion.

I never said such a thing. And you should talk about growing the **** up.

I suggest you two get a room.

Right now I could give a ****.


In other words....piss off.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

So you're 40% Native American, 15% European, and 55% African American. Seems you've got an extra 10% rolling around in there. I think you'd better recheck it.

One thing is for sure. You're 25% asshole, 25% dickhead, 25% racist, and 25% full of shit.

Btw, unless you've traced your genealogy you honestly don't know what your European ancestry means. It could mean we're all related.

You may be my cousin...gag.

According to 23ndme, my proportions are 55% sub-Saharan African, 30% Native American and 15% European, the two other companies tested me out as 55% sub-Saharan African, 40% Native American and 5% European.

Jackass, learn to read. Your ancestry is 110% pure jackass with a 10% margin of error.

I'm not obsessed with my ethnic origins. I'm a human-being. One of these days you'll learn that's all we are.

Then again, maybe not.

I'm human, thats a given that we're all human, but some of us in America had our entire African heritage suppressed and taken away from us and were made to believe we were inferior people, I've learned that the Songhai people were anything but inferior people without a civilization. The average white American knows they have British, German or some other European ancestry, their last names show it, Songhai people don't have last names like Rigaud, Bass, Hill, Cook and Patterson, catch my drift?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

He's an egomaniacal dickwad. It makes me wonder about you if you support the prick.

Not only is he a racist but he thinks he's God's gift to women. Every thread he starts seems to be about him. And anyone who speaks in 3rd person has serious issues. A text book narcissistic trait.

I would think you would have a low tolerance level for him.

Are you mistaking me for someone who gives a shit what you think of me? Let me confirm it.... I don't give a rats behind what you think.

He's no more racist than you are. And.... he might be God's gift to women. I couldn't say.... but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

For the record, I like Charlie. He makes me laugh.... and I can fall out with him and he doesn't behave like a two year old and say 'I'm not your friend anymore'.... which makes him more of a man than many, in my opinion.

I never said such a thing. And you should talk about growing the **** up.

I suggest you two get a room.

Right now I could give a ****.


In other words....piss off.

Sounds like someone is mad.

 

[California Girl]

Are you mistaking me for someone who gives a shit what you think of me? Let me confirm it.... I don't give a rats behind what you think.

He's no more racist than you are. And.... he might be God's gift to women. I couldn't say.... but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

For the record, I like Charlie. He makes me laugh.... and I can fall out with him and he doesn't behave like a two year old and say 'I'm not your friend anymore'.... which makes him more of a man than many, in my opinion.

I never said such a thing. And you should talk about growing the **** up.

I suggest you two get a room.

Right now I could give a ****.


In other words....piss off.

Sounds like someone is mad.

Does seem that way.

 

[California Girl]

According to 23ndme, my proportions are 55% sub-Saharan African, 30% Native American and 15% European, the two other companies tested me out as 55% sub-Saharan African, 40% Native American and 5% European.

Jackass, learn to read. Your ancestry is 110% pure jackass with a 10% margin of error.

I'm not obsessed with my ethnic origins. I'm a human-being. One of these days you'll learn that's all we are.

Then again, maybe not.

I'm human, thats a given that we're all human, but some of us in America had our entire African heritage suppressed and taken away from us and were made to believe we were inferior people, I've learned that the Songhai people were anything but inferior people without a civilization. The average white American knows they have British, German or some other European ancestry, their last names show it, Songhai people don't have last names like Rigaud, Bass, Hill, Cook and Patterson, catch my drift?

Absolutely.

 

[Provocateur]

Just to throw my 2 cents in:

I agree that Bass is among the most blatantly racist posters here. I could be wrong, but that is the impression I've gotten from his posts, including this one, and we've never really had much interaction (if any?)

That said, he may not actually be a racist, but if he isn't, I would suggest he measure his words and chose his battles a little more carefully, because it certainly would appear that he hates white people with a passion (so much so that he is upset with, and denying the results of, his own DNA test).

I don't know him. I only know what he posts. To deny the racist overtones in most/many of them is folly.

I'm sick and tired of your pathetic whining about me allegedly being a racist when I am not, some of you seem to think that discussing racism and race in general is somehow "racist" because it makes certain people feel uncomfortable, tough luck, I don't give a damn, I've never stated anything about inferior/superior races and as far as my DNA results, I said the European mixture was too damn high based on the fact that two previous tests with different companies yielded lower figures.

But even if I did resent my European ancestry, its not like my feelings would be racist, what the hell am I supposed to do, feel proud that my great-great-great grandmother was raped by a white Frenchman? Unless you are African American and have this legacy you don't know what the hell you're talking about moron, so don't accuse me of being racist.

You have your great great great grandmother's daily journal? You know she didn't willingly spread her legs for the white Frenchman...how?

 

[Provocateur]

When one person is owned by another person, can that person give consent? No.

Are you serious?

Yes. Slaves are slaves, they do what they are told by their master. That's kind of the whole point of slavery.

I really shouldn't have to explain this.

Let me guess, early twenties, right?

There were generations of slaves that lived within the same family units, serving the role of nanny, etc. Many became part of the families. Many of the "masters" fell in love with the slaves and slaves fell in love with their "masters".

Not everyone was tied up like a dog and beaten. Perhaps as you mature, you can take a look at the entire picture.

And this is not dismissing the travesty of slavery, its merely pointing out to you that making blanket statements that no slaves ever consented to sex is ridiculous.

 

[Mini 14]

I don't understand the point of paying for a DNA screening if you're just going to ignore the results and make up stories to explain away what's in your DNA.

You could have done that for free.

 

[Provocateur]

What some of you morons fail to realize is that African Americans having European ancestry is all a part of the slave legacy, thats not something you can just tell people to move on and get over with, that legacy shaped what is known as African Americans. That European ancestry is just one part of that legacy, the social stratification that we have in America today was shaped by it, the slavery legacy. The people to whom my paternal ancestry traces to in Africa, the Songhai people, on average, don't have skin as light as mine and eye color as light as mine and neither do Native Americans, so do the math and guess where it comes from. I as well as other African Americans are constantly reminded of that slavery legacy when and its carried in our genes.


The average African American has about 6-17% European ancestry, my case is unusual in that I have high percentage of Native American ancestry, which is low to negligible is most African Americans and most of that Native American ancestry is recent, very recent and was consensual, my grandmother is a Native American. In two separate genetic tests my Native American ancestry came out to be 40%, thats why a 15% European figure is too damn high.

I honestly don't give a shit about your ancestry or your race (who does?). I shared my impression, and you flew off the handle.

I don't know you. I only know the image you convey. I would suggest you just ignore me, because you're certainly not helping your case by apologizing for your ethnicity.

my ethnicity is African American and I don't apologize for a damn thing moron, I wouldn't change me for anything or anybody. Your impression of me is damn bogus, but keep whining I'm a racist, it makes me laugh every damn time that oversensitive, racially insecure retards like you are so easily manipulated

Perhaps you should choose your words more wisely. In your OP, it seems like you are disgusted that you have any part "white" in you. When you use words like too damn much... etc. Seems like you hate that part of yourself.

 

[Mini 14]

Perhaps you should choose your words more wisely. In your OP, it seems like you are disgusted that you have any part "white" in you. When you use words like too damn much... etc. Seems like you hate that part of yourself.

See?

It isn't just me.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Just to throw my 2 cents in:

I agree that Bass is among the most blatantly racist posters here. I could be wrong, but that is the impression I've gotten from his posts, including this one, and we've never really had much interaction (if any?)

That said, he may not actually be a racist, but if he isn't, I would suggest he measure his words and chose his battles a little more carefully, because it certainly would appear that he hates white people with a passion (so much so that he is upset with, and denying the results of, his own DNA test).

I don't know him. I only know what he posts. To deny the racist overtones in most/many of them is folly.

I'm sick and tired of your pathetic whining about me allegedly being a racist when I am not, some of you seem to think that discussing racism and race in general is somehow "racist" because it makes certain people feel uncomfortable, tough luck, I don't give a damn, I've never stated anything about inferior/superior races and as far as my DNA results, I said the European mixture was too damn high based on the fact that two previous tests with different companies yielded lower figures.

But even if I did resent my European ancestry, its not like my feelings would be racist, what the hell am I supposed to do, feel proud that my great-great-great grandmother was raped by a white Frenchman? Unless you are African American and have this legacy you don't know what the hell you're talking about moron, so don't accuse me of being racist.

You have your great great great grandmother's daily journal? You know she didn't willingly spread her legs for the white Frenchman...how?

Dude she didn't willingly give it up to the slave master, how many slave women actually did? Slavery in Louisiana was different as some slavemasters actually married their slave women, my great-great-great-great grandmother wasn't married and had six children, all of whom were mulattas.