Just curious why do you hate illegals getting healthcare or food and shelter?

[cnm]

that aint what it is.....do even live here?....

No, that's why I can see what it is.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This doesn't include the value of the labor they perform.

Like relatively inexpensive produce? you can thank an illegal.

Not if it is produced by human-trafficked labor.

Thank God Trump is rescuing so many trafficked people - in meat plants particularly and sending them back to their families in their home countries.

If there is any job that should be unionized and employees paid liveable wages and benefits, it is meat-processing workers. It is a dangerous and unpleasant job that requires close adherance to rules for the safety of the workers and for the ultimate consumers of the meat.

Illegals working fourteen hour shifts for sub-minimum wage cannot hope to meet such standards.

 

[cnm]

First off is a number of illegals go to emergency rooms for health care then never pay the bill. The person that pays the hospital pays a part of this unpaid bill in higher prices. They are also clogging up the emergency rooms.
Second some are housed in motels and hotels. Why are Americans paying for that rather than paying to house Americans that are living on the streets?
There are those that are attempting to come here legally why should someone who comes here breaking the law get help or special treatment?
If they are here illegally then they may not be paying taxes or if they are they may be doing it under a stolen tax number. A stolen tax number is another illegal act. If they are hired at the same rate as an American the person hiring them is actually getting cheap labor as no social security taxes are being paid, no Medicare taxes are being paid, no worker’s compensation is being paid. Chances are though they are being paid less the an American would be paid, so in effect you are getting a wage slave. Someone that works for you at less then it would cost for an American worker so in essence you are perpetuating slavery. Some feel that kind of thing is necessary and a part of being superior.
Some feel that laws are flexable and only some should be enforced. Usually it is ones that they do not break.
Then we have those that are here illegally because they have broken laws in their own country. They come here to escape the authorities in their own countries. Plus they hear that you can do things like stab someone and just walk away with at most a slap on the wrist.

Less than 1% of Medicaid funds from the data I've seen and posted on this thread. They pay much more in taxes than they ever get back in services.

Fact Sheet: Undocumented Immigrants and Federal Health Care Benefits - National Immigration Forum

This fact sheet describes the health care benefits and programs undocumented individuals are (and are not) eligible for. It also attempts to provide context on healthcare costs accrued by the undocumented population, including providing data on federal and state health expenditures and tax...

forumtogether.org

America was built on exploiting labour, it has never changed.

 

[Eman623]

No offense and im not judging you Just ask
But why do you hate illegals getting healthcare?
I think all humans should get enough food shelter healthcare but i can understand that americans are left out and the illegals suck up the resources which should be for americans i just think if it were possible that everyone gets it they should but probably its not possible

Why stop there? Why don't we pay for everyone on the planet to get American-style free healthcare?

We don't want to be accused of hating people getting healthcare, not even in a non-offensive and non-judgmental way, do we?

 

[Mortimer]

Why stop there? Why don't we pay for everyone on the planet to get American-style free healthcare?

We don't want to be accused of hating people getting healthcare, not even in a non-offensive and non-judgmental way, do we?

I agree with everyone on the planet getting healthcare but not only from americans alone
I did said if it were possible

 

[Maxdeath]

Less than 1% of Medicaid funds from the data I've seen and posted on this thread. They pay much more in taxes than they ever get back in services.

Fact Sheet: Undocumented Immigrants and Federal Health Care Benefits - National Immigration Forum

This fact sheet describes the health care benefits and programs undocumented individuals are (and are not) eligible for. It also attempts to provide context on healthcare costs accrued by the undocumented population, including providing data on federal and state health expenditures and tax...

forumtogether.org

America was built on exploiting labour, it has never changed.

One percent that could be spent on Americans that is instead spent on those that break the law. I would suggest that some who claim this is a good thing should be ashamed that we are helping law breakers instead of punishing them, but I know that they do not feel shame.
So because something has always been that way there is no need or desire to change? Really?

 

[Eman623]

I agree with everyone on the planet getting healthcare but not only from americans alone
I did said if it were possible

Well I agree with you. Everyone should get free healthcare. And free food and shelter. And a free car. And a free lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat!

If it were possible.

 

[0311]

No offense and im not judging you Just ask
But why do you hate illegals getting healthcare?
I think all humans should get enough food shelter healthcare but i can understand that americans are left out and the illegals suck up the resources which should be for americans i just think if it were possible that everyone gets it they should but probably its not possible

Illegals CANNOT RECEIVE A.C.A. BENEFITS. YOU ARE A ******* LIAR.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, that's why I can see what it is.

you are only seeing what someone is showing you....

 

[martybegan]

Illegals CANNOT RECEIVE A.C.A. BENEFITS. YOU ARE A ******* LIAR.

They get health care from government from various sources, some by fraud, others by NGO slight of hand.

You guys are the ones that limit it to the ACA and thus try to be slick about it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They can get if they go back where they came from. Americans should not reward criminals. Democrats need illegals to increase the census so they dont lose seats in the house. They bribe illegals with free benefits. You think taxpayers should pay for that?

Exactly, illegals should get food, healthcare, shelter, a Gucci bag if that's what they want. Just get it at home.

 

[marvin martian]

A fortune all right. It's a disgrace that the richest country in the world has to spend a tiny part of its budget treating its most exploited workers. They should just die in the fields.

Fact Sheet: Undocumented Immigrants and Federal Health Care Benefits - National Immigration Forum

This fact sheet describes the health care benefits and programs undocumented individuals are (and are not) eligible for. It also attempts to provide context on healthcare costs accrued by the undocumented population, including providing data on federal and state health expenditures and tax...

forumtogether.org

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According to recent Medicaid data, in 2016 the federal government spent $974 million in total on emergency and lifesaving services for undocumented immigrants, representing 0.2% of Medicaid expenditures (approximately $565 billion in 2016) and 0.03% of total national health expenditures that year (approximately $3.3 trillion in 2016). This expenditure includes payments to hospitals, physicians, and ambulance providers for a proportion of their unreimbursed costs associated with providing emergency services under EMTALA to undocumented immigrants.​

[...]​

Discussions of immigrants and public benefits often overlook the significant tax contributions made by undocumented immigrants. According to research conducted by New American Economy, in 2018 undocumented immigrants contributed $20.1 billion in federal taxes and $11.8 billion in state and local taxes.​

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The tax contributions of undocumented immigrants are critical to the viability of public health programs like Medicare and Medicaid. Between 2000 and 2011, undocumented immigrants generated a $35.1 billion surplus in the Medicare Trust Fund. States that expend the most in emergency medical care for undocumented immigrants (California, Texas, and New York) all also receive over $1 billion in state and local tax contributions from undocumented immigrants each year.​

No, they should go home, and immigrate legally if that's what they want.

You can't keep your slaves. President Trump is freeing them and sending them home.

 

[JoeB131]

If they are paying taxes then they stole someone's identity and that is a very serious crime which hurts the individual that it is stolen from.

Why is it a "Serious" crime?

If it was a serious crime, the government should issue national, biometric IDs, and then the problem is solved.

 

[JoeB131]

Not if it is produced by human-trafficked labor.

Ah, the fantasy talking point about "Human Trafficking"

Thank God Trump is rescuing so many trafficked people - in meat plants particularly and sending them back to their families in their home countries.

It must be a special kind of awful to screw someone over and then act like you are doing them a favor.

If there is any job that should be unionized and employees paid liveable wages and benefits, it is meat-processing workers. It is a dangerous and unpleasant job that requires close adherance to rules for the safety of the workers and for the ultimate consumers of the meat.

I agree. Now, who busted up the Meat Packing Unions? WHo moved all those jobs to "Right to Work" states from Union states like Wisconsin?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Ah, the fantasy talking point about "Human Trafficking"

Ah, the old dodge of calling a true statement a "talking point."

It must be a special kind of awful to screw someone over and then act like you are doing them a favor.

Saving them from slavery screws them over?

Democrats said that just before and during the Civil War: "Ah say, Ah say, these people are not ready for freedom! Why do the Yankees want to screw them over by setting them free before their time?"

Then in the sixties, they said "Ah say, Ah say, these blacks are not ready to move into white schools yet. We will get them there, but we don't want to be . . . uh, rushed!"

I agree. Now, who busted up the Meat Packing Unions? WHo moved all those jobs to "Right to Work" states from Union states like Wisconsin?

I don't know, but "Right to Work" doesn't ban unions from being formed, it just bans them from using force on their members.

 

[JoeB131]

Ah, the old dodge of calling a true statement a "talking point."

Your fantasies are not true statements.

Saving them from slavery screws them over?

Undocumented immigrants aren't slaves.

I don't know, but "Right to Work" doesn't ban unions from being formed, it just bans them from using force on their members.

Wow, more Fantasies.

 

[theHawk]

No offense and im not judging you Just ask
But why do you hate illegals getting healthcare?
I think all humans should get enough food shelter healthcare but i can understand that americans are left out and the illegals suck up the resources which should be for americans i just think if it were possible that everyone gets it they should but probably its not possible

I’m all for them getting healthcare…..in their own countries.

Our system is being sucked dry by illegals and it’s the reason healthcare is so insanely expensive now, because we all have to foot the bill to cover for illegals’ “free healthcare”.

 

[sparky]

This is not bigotry , it's math Mort.......~S~

 

[Delldude]

Illegals CANNOT RECEIVE A.C.A. BENEFITS. YOU ARE A ******* LIAR.

Try Medicaid.

 

[Delldude]

Undocumented immigrants aren't slaves.

We need people to work for poverty wages so I can enjoy cheap produce.