Julian Assange: not a hero and a running coward.
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idb
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Does he have to be in Australia to run, or can he be do it from a living room in a London flat?
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coming from disinformation agent troll LIAR ABILITY, who is NOW posting under a sock puppet,everybody should believe now that this guy IS a hero and the only one trolling is HIM.that kind of logic Bill posted here is too much logic and common sense for troll LIAR abaility to comprehend.
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Billo_Really
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Exactly.
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one has rightfully earned the name LIAR ability by many folks here and as everyone knows,if Pinochio could really happen,Nixons nose would grwo so long it would stretch for miles all over the country.hee hee.
freedombecki
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So Ilar Mylar made a few of your card houses fall? Details, please.
coming from disinformation agent troll LIAR ABILITY, who is NOW posting under a sock puppet,everybody should believe now that this guy IS a hero and the only one trolling is HIM.that kind of logic Bill posted here is too much logic and common sense for troll LIAR abaility to comprehend.
You are a bit confused. Julian Assange broke no laws in America, he's not an American. The DOJ isn't trying to capture him. He is not in Ecuador hiding from Americans. He's hiding from the Swedes. He's wanted in Sweden for sexual assault and it is Sweden that is trying to extradite him. The British are assisting Sweden, but the United States has nothing to say in the matter.
Julian Assange extradition: Ecuador 'willing to co-operate' with Britain | Media | The Guardian
The South American country's decision to grant political asylum to the 41-year-old Australian, who faces allegations of sexual assault in Sweden, has provoked a bitter political row between Quito and London.
IlarMeilyr
Liability Reincarnate!
The confusion is all yours.
Assange appears to have absolutely broken U.S. law.
Ever hear of Espionage Act of 1917?
Do some research before spouting off next time. For example, even BASIC research would have revealed to you the following: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world/08leak.html?_r=0
Had you done even that limited amount of digging, you could have avoided making your absurd and erroneous assertion.
Your article is from 2010. The article itself states that the DOJ is STUDYING whether charges could be filed. Were they? In the three years since your article was written and now what charges in the US have been filed against Julian Assange? How about NONE. Is Julian Assange charged with violations of the Espionage Act? No. Bradley Manning is, but Julian Assange is not. He's not an American citizen. He isn't wanted in the United States and the extradition that is being sought against him has nothing to do with the United States. He's wanted by the Swedish.
You are not entitled to your own facts. The fact is, the United States is not trying to extradite him for anything.
Funny he can break a law of a country he wasn't even in at the time the 'crime' was committed.
IlarMeilyr
Liability Reincarnate!
Surely you can't now think that Julian Assange has been indicted in the US and the US is trying to extradite him from Ecuador.
Here's what happened with Assange's extradition. Where is the US?
Timeline: Julian Assange's extradition battle - CNN.com
Here's what happened with Assange's extradition. Where is the US?
Timeline: Julian Assange's extradition battle - CNN.com
IlarMeilyr
Liability Reincarnate!
Your "question" doesn't flow from anything I have said.
I have not said that the U.S. has yet indicted the fucking bastard. His ATTORNEY evidently says so, but that's not something I have said.
Try to keep up.
What I maintain is that it is absolutely possible that Assange's behavior IS criminal under U.S. law and that he does face the prospect of criminal prosecution. That would be GREAT.
I'd love to see him prosecuted.
Assange broke no US laws. There is no prospect of criminal prosecution no matter how much you think there should be. If there was, Assange would have been prosecuted by now.
He's a creep, and an asshole, he should be strung up on general principle, there just isn't a law to make him do it. IF he had conspired with Manning and encouraged him to steal military secrets and give those secrets to Assange, then Julian Assange would be indicted under a charge of conspiracy to commit espionage. It didn't happen that way, Manning stole the military secrets and gave them to Assange.
He's a creep, and an asshole, he should be strung up on general principle, there just isn't a law to make him do it. IF he had conspired with Manning and encouraged him to steal military secrets and give those secrets to Assange, then Julian Assange would be indicted under a charge of conspiracy to commit espionage. It didn't happen that way, Manning stole the military secrets and gave them to Assange.
freedombecki
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Julian Assange issued this statement Friday, July 25, 2013:
Julian Assange compromised the security of over 320,000,000 people who live in the United States of America. Those who work against our security will be held accountable, and Mr. Assange did just that. He may be able to run, but like his old friend Osama bin Laden, who benefitted from his unconscionable espionage, he will not be able to hide.
freedombecki
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(a)
(1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly or indirectly, anything described in paragraph (3) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attack,
(B) war plans,
(C) communications intelligence or cryptographic information, or
(D) any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(2) An entity referred to in paragraph (1) is— (A) a foreign government;
(B) a faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States; or
(C) a representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen of such a government, faction, party, or force.
(3) A thing referred to in paragraph (1) is a document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information relating to the national defense.
(b) (1) No person may be sentenced by court-martial to suffer death for an offense under this section (article) unless— (A) the members of the court-martial unanimously find at least one of the aggravating factors set out in subsection (c); and
(B) the members unanimously determine that any extenuating or mitigating circumstances are substantially outweighed by any aggravating circumstances, including the aggravating factors set out in subsection (c).
(2) Findings under this subsection may be based on— (A) evidence introduced on the issue of guilt or innocence;
(B) evidence introduced during the sentencing proceeding; or
(C) all such evidence.
(3) The accused shall be given broad latitude to present matters in extenuation and mitigation.
(c) A sentence of death may be adjudged by a court-martial for an offense under this section (article) only if the members unanimously find, beyond a reasonable doubt, one or more of the following aggravating factors: (1) The accused has been convicted of another offense involving espionage or treason for which either a sentence of death or imprisonment for life was authorized by statute.
(2) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly created a grave risk of substantial damage to the national security.
(3) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly created a grave risk of death to another person.
(4) Any other factor that may be prescribed by the President by regulations under section 836 of this title (article 36).
From Cornell University School of Law website with re to US Codes.
(1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly or indirectly, anything described in paragraph (3) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attack,
(B) war plans,
(C) communications intelligence or cryptographic information, or
(D) any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(2) An entity referred to in paragraph (1) is— (A) a foreign government;
(B) a faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States; or
(C) a representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen of such a government, faction, party, or force.
(3) A thing referred to in paragraph (1) is a document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information relating to the national defense.
(b) (1) No person may be sentenced by court-martial to suffer death for an offense under this section (article) unless— (A) the members of the court-martial unanimously find at least one of the aggravating factors set out in subsection (c); and
(B) the members unanimously determine that any extenuating or mitigating circumstances are substantially outweighed by any aggravating circumstances, including the aggravating factors set out in subsection (c).
(2) Findings under this subsection may be based on— (A) evidence introduced on the issue of guilt or innocence;
(B) evidence introduced during the sentencing proceeding; or
(C) all such evidence.
(3) The accused shall be given broad latitude to present matters in extenuation and mitigation.
(c) A sentence of death may be adjudged by a court-martial for an offense under this section (article) only if the members unanimously find, beyond a reasonable doubt, one or more of the following aggravating factors: (1) The accused has been convicted of another offense involving espionage or treason for which either a sentence of death or imprisonment for life was authorized by statute.
(2) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly created a grave risk of substantial damage to the national security.
(3) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly created a grave risk of death to another person.
(4) Any other factor that may be prescribed by the President by regulations under section 836 of this title (article 36).
From Cornell University School of Law website with re to US Codes.
IlarMeilyr
Liability Reincarnate!
YOUR "assurance" that he broke no U.S. laws is lacking in support.
By his own words and actions, he sure as hell broke U.S. laws.
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