Judge strikes down Biden administration ban on worker ‘noncompete’ agreements.....

[Polishprince]

As an employee I'd sell the company out in a heartbeat. That's capitalism 101.

I'm sure you would.

And I'm sure that employers know that as well.

And that's why you can expect them to take defensive measures to protect themselves and those should be anticipated before a blanket elimination of employment contracts is put into law.

 

[Foxfyre]

As an employee I'd sell the company out in a heartbeat. That's capitalism 101.

I would hope you would do so ethically. I do use what I learn on other jobs in whatever job I happen to have. And when it is going from one similar job to another, I don't see that as unethical when there is no non compete clause.

In my own business I trained a couple of people who eventually left to go to work for other companies that we were in competition with. We had no non compete clause because the work was pretty standard from one company to the next--no trade secrets--and I did not fault those employees in any way.

 

[initforme]

I would hope you would do so ethically. I do use what I learn on other jobs in whatever job I happen to have. And when it is going from one similar job to another, I don't see that as unethical when there is no non compete clause.

In my own business I trained a couple of people who eventually left to go to work for other companies that we were in competition with. We had no non compete clause because the work was pretty standard from one company to the next--no trade secrets--and I did not fault those employees in any way.

Ethics have no place in this system.

 

[Foxfyre]

Ethics have no place in this system.

I disagree though I do know ethics are sometimes hard to find. Antitrust and RICO laws are necessary to make sure businesses, especially those that cross state lines, do not do physical or illegal economic violence to each other. But I would not trust an employee who sold out his/her former boss in an unethical way because what would discourage him/her from doing the same thing to me? And an employee who bad mouths his former boss in a job interview does not make the best impression.

I value those with integrity in all walks of life. And I go out of my way to publicly praise and recommend those businesses that demonstrate good ethics when dealing with me. And we use those businesses again and again. Screw me over once though and you'll never get my business again and you can be sure I'll spread the word about you.

 

[Picaro]

As an employee I'd sell the company out in a heartbeat. That's capitalism 101.

Yes. When a company quits paying you you owe it nothing, the same with them toward former employees. They have zero loyalty to employees even when they do pay them. There are no corporate ethics, so it's silly to have any towards them. It's a two way street if that is expected.

 

[martybegan]

But you're okay with employers being able to have govt. enforce contracts like this.

The whole point of a government is enforcing contracts.

We have them force things on employers all the time.

 

[Blaster]

The Government should stay out of the private sector.

 

[KissMy]

No, they shouldn't. If a person doesn't want one, they don't have to apply for jobs where they are part of the contract.

Bullshit!

I had an employer hire me away from a prior job. It was only 6 months after I had burned my bridge to previous employer by leaving them for more pay, that new employer mandated everyone sign their non-compete or be terminated that day.

At that point we were all trapped without any good options. There was no time to seek new employment or not lose health insurance for the family. The company car & phone would have been taken that day. No way to drive home or to search new employment. House payment would have been missed & foreclosed to put us all on the street.

I soon had much higher paying offers from clients & competition. But I was now trapped at same pay & job for years until I could attempt to break into a new field of work. Starting a entirely new career field didn't work well at all, because my passion & training was all for that job the lawyers had now sucked all profit from.

 

[Picaro]

We can note that a lot of people here don't know the difference between a non-compete contract and a non-disclosure agreement.

 

[Picaro]

The Government should stay out of the private sector.

Then the private sector should stay out of govt.

 

[Picaro]

The whole point of a government is enforcing contracts.

We have them force things on employers all the time.

Red China loves such contracts. They allow companies to build prisons posing as factories to enforce those contracts. Business loves Red China, and so do American consumers. Nobody likes free enterprise and free markets, they just like to babble about them.

 

[martybegan]

Bullshit!

I had an employer hire me away from a prior job. It was only 6 months after I had burned my bridge to previous employer by leaving them for more pay, that new employer mandated everyone sign their non-compete or be terminated that day.

At that point we were all trapped without any good options. There was no time to seek new employment or not lose health insurance for the family. The company car & phone would have been taken that day. No way to drive home or to search new employment. House payment would have been missed & foreclosed to put us all on the street.

I soon had much higher paying offers from clients & competition. But I was now trapped at same pay & job for years until I could attempt to break into a new field of work. Starting a entirely new career field didn't work well at all, because my passion & training was all for that job the lawyers had now sucked all profit from.

If it's a non compete with proper payment and a time limit, there is nothing illegal or wrong about it.

You could have quit.

 

[martybegan]

Red China loves such contracts. They allow companies to build prisons posing as factories to enforce those contracts. Business loves Red China, and so do American consumers. Nobody likes free enterprise and free markets, they just like to babble about them.

 

[Picaro]

If it's a non compete with proper payment and a time limit, there is nothing illegal or wrong about it.

You could have quit.

Where do you get the idea employers keep paying you when you quit???

 

[martybegan]

Where do you get the idea employers keep paying you when you quit???

From non-compete clauses I've listened to about from broadcasters on radio? From the fact anything but that would be the equivlanet of indentured servitude?

There has to be compensation, as I stated above. You can regulate non competes to include that, as well as a time limit, but you can't ban them entirely.

 

[Picaro]

From non-compete clauses I've listened to about from broadcasters on radio? From the fact anything but that would be the equivlanet of indentured servitude?

There has to be compensation, as I stated above. You can regulate non competes to include that, as well as a time limit, but you can't ban them entirely.

So you don't know squat, you heard it on some radio show? I thought it would be something like that. I never heard of any business doing that; they just buy the other businesses out to shut down competition. The tech industry just buys patents up and then spends a lot on sueing small companies and start ups with frivolous lawsuits and bankrupting them or forcing them to sell at basement prices, like Apple and Microsoft do. Speaking of Apple, they love those Red Chinese labor contracts no end, and America loves Apple.

Xinjiang’s industry is booming, and the region has one of the fastest GDP growth rates in China. Xinjiang exports a range of products, from clothing to machinery, and the US is one of the region’s fastest-growing markets. Xinjiang’s factories produce many goods that eventually make their way to US consumers. Apple, Nike, and Coca-Cola, among others, lobbied Congress this year to water down a bill that would ban the import of products made with forced labor there. (Apple has said it did not try to weaken the measure, and Nike has said it “did not lobby against” it.) The bill overwhelmingly passed the House of Representatives in September, but the Senate has yet to debate it.

We Found The Factories Inside China’s Mass Internment Camps

Observers have long warned of rising forced labor in Xinjiang. Satellite images show factories built just steps away from cell blocks.

www.buzzfeednews.com

Just for starters. FoxConn is a big electronics contractor that has prison style factories. Guess who they make stuff for?

 

[martybegan]

So you don't know squat, you heard it on some radio show? I thought it would be something like that.

About a radio host talking about another radio host's non compete, which paid them until the contract was over.

 

[Picaro]

Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to hundreds of popular food brands

The Associated Press found goods linked to prisoners wind up in the supply chains of everything from Frosted Flakes to Coca-Cola.

apnews.com

 

[Picaro]

About a radio host talking about another radio host's non compete, which paid them until the contract was over.

Those are agreements between media companies, not employees. Tucker Carlson's show is incorporated and in syndication, for instance. So is Ben Shapiro's, Michael Savage's, Laura Ingraham's, etc., etc.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Workers have a right to work wherever they want in their industry. Those agreements are worthless.

No surprise right wing hypocrites are all for it though. They like to snivel about unions then out of the other sides of their mouths they cheer for this shit.

Right wing hypocrites.....
Hahahahahahahahaha nice try dimtard.