Once again, Trump sides with Bosses over Employees

[1srelluc]

Current Coverage (Workers Currently Bound)

• About 18% of U.S. workers—or roughly 30 million people—are currently under a non‑compete agreement  .
• Broader estimates range between 27.8% and 46.5% of private‑sector workers, translating to 36 to 60 million employees affected  .
• A U.S. Treasury Department report underscores similar figures: 18% currently covered, and 37% have signed one at some point in their career  .

So, you are just parroting made-up numbers.....Typical dem claptrap.

 

[rightwinger]

Biden cared about workers, their pay and fair treatment. That is why he opposed noncompetes

Trump only cares about employers and getting them dependent on the employer and working for low pay

 

[rightwinger]

Don't believe it, doesn't pass the smell test.
1 in 5 Americans are in a non compete?? - Not a chance.
There is something screwy with that data

And look at their data - between 36 to 60 million??? That is a helluva broad guess. That obviously is just a complete guess

That is what it said when I looked it up. Around 18 percent. You are welcome to do your own research

 

[rightwinger]

So, you are just parroting made-up numbers.....Typical dem claptrap.

Prove me wrong

I will wait

 

[1srelluc]

Prove me wrong

I will wait

No need for you to wait.....You proved yourself wrong (or at the very least misguided) with three sets of numbers. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[rightwinger]

Whatever the data is, non compete's are essential for a number of businesses. In fact, many businesses could collapse and leave all of their employees in the dust without them - in particular small-medium businesses.
Any medium-large company that has a sales force - MUST- have non competes. It would be unthinkable without them.
Scenario - over 10 years a company owner has put $millions in equipment/leases etc. Has 5 sales staff members.
All 5 sales staff decides to move to a competitor or startup their own company. Previous owner goes bankrupt and all of the employees lose their jobs.

I understand the need for noncompetes in sales and legal fields. You are not allowed to leave and take your clients with you.

But if you sell cars, you should be able to sell cars for anyone.

These noncompetes clauses were meant for executive type positions with proprietary information.
How about we limit those employment terms to those making $150,000 plus ?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It was the right thing for Trump to do.
Non competes are essential for many businesses, it would be unthinkable to make them illegal. And stupid.
I was under a nondisclosure from 1989 - 2000, and they added a non compete from 2000-2014. Especially these years, I could have ended them. They would have loss $millions, and put a business out of business that had 43 employees.
So I could possibly make more money?? Pretty selfish.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I understand the need for noncompetes in sales and legal fields. You are not allowed to leave and take your clients with you.

But if you sell cars, you should be able to sell cars for anyone.

These noncompetes clauses were meant for executive type positions with proprietary information.
How about we limit those employment terms to those making $150,000 plus ?

I had all of my sales staff under a non compete, and all CSRs and biz office employees under a non disclosure.

 

[rightwinger]

So I could possibly make more money?? Pretty selfish.

Employers routinely make employee decisions so they can make more money. If they can replace you with someone cheaper, they will.

But if you try to replace them with someone who pays more, they claim foul.

If someone is competing for your employees, pay them more.

 

[rightwinger]

I had all of my sales staff under a non compete, and all CSRs and biz office employees under a non disclosure.

Non disclosures of proprietary information is understandable. Blocking someone from taking their skills to a competitor is not.

Competition is a key to Capitalism.
Allowing companies to compete but blocking employees from doing the same is abusive.

 

[citygator]

Non-competes should be illegal except for senior executives with strategic knowledge. My opinion.

 

[Failzero]

Non disclosures of proprietary information is understandable. Blocking someone from taking their skills to a competitor is not.

Competition is a key to Capitalism.
Allowing companies to compete but blocking employees from doing the same is abusive.

There have been many famous lawsuits over folks selling things like a small but Trendy and snooty Messenger / Courier Business and selling it with a pact to not Start another one or poach Clients or Drivers / Dispatchers / Sales … and the desire proved too great

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Employers routinely make employee decisions so they can make more money. If they can replace you with someone cheaper, they will.

But if you try to replace them with someone who pays more, they claim foul.

If someone is competing for your employees, pay them more.

That is the most negative way of looking at it, probably happens, but not normal.
Non competes usually come with high severance packages as part of the deal. When the corporation sold the business - I received $75,000 plus 3 months pay. And because they sold the company - I was no longer under a clause. The next day I went to work for a different company and brought them well in excess of $million in sales. - so for me, the non compete was GREAT.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Non disclosures of proprietary information is understandable. Blocking someone from taking their skills to a competitor is not.

Competition is a key to Capitalism.
Allowing companies to compete but blocking employees from doing the same is abusive.

Simply not true, sales staff can ruin a company over night if they get a job elsewhere and take their clients with them. No sales company could have any security without them

 

[rightwinger]

Simply not true, sales staff can ruin a company over night if they get a job elsewhere and take their clients with them. No sales company could have any security without them

I agree
You can’t poach clients

But if you sell Fords, you should not be blocked from selling Chevys

 

[BackAgain]

Noncompete clauses in employment contracts have been used to block employees from getting a better job or starting their own business. They are used to stop competition and hold down wages.
President Biden had pushed legislation to limit Noncompetes and allow employees to take their skills where they are best compensated.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/trump-administration-drops-defense-ban-employee-noncompete-agreements-2025-09-06/

More than 20% of U.S. workers have signed noncompete agreements, according to the FTC. The agency, in adopting the rule, had said the agreements limit worker mobility and suppress wages and competition for labor.

Non compete clauses are generally limited to the amount of time they may establish and the scope of how they apply.

Why would any company train an employee, provide them with the background and experience to do their jobs well and then have those same employees be free to use that very training and experience against them?

 

[initforme]

Non compete clauses are generally limited to the amount of time they may establish and the scope of how they apply.

Why would any company train an employee, provide them with the background and experience to do their jobs well and then have those same employees be free to use that very training and experience against them?

Thats the nature of business. Dont hire. Problem solved. Employees are free to leave any job they want at any time.

 

[initforme]

No one is forced to sign a non-compete. If someone has questions about whether signing one is in their best interests or not , that's why we have lawyers in our society. Run it past the shyster, and he'll give you the plusses and minuses.

I don't see where the government should be banning this kind of thing.

If I owned a sandwich shop, I sure the hell wouldn't want someone I was mentoring to become a first class sandwich artisan to pick up and leave for the competition immediately after I trained him

Whatever the data is, non compete's are essential for a number of businesses. In fact, many businesses could collapse and leave all of their employees in the dust without them - in particular small-medium businesses.
Any medium-large company that has a sales force - MUST- have non competes. It would be unthinkable without them.
Scenario - over 10 years a company owner has put $millions in equipment/leases etc. Has 5 sales staff members.
All 5 sales staff decides to move to a competitor or startup their own company. Previous owner goes bankrupt and all of the employees lose their jobs.

If one wants to walk off the job and work somewhere else thats their right. They dont have to be forcibly employed. There are other protections.

 

[BackAgain]

Thats the nature of business. Dont hire. Problem solved. Employees are free to leave any job they want at any time.

Not exactly. It’s one thing to say, “I’m outta here.” But it’s another thing to say, but I can’t do this job for any other company in the same line of business with “X” miles of the office and/or for “Y” number of months.

In that latter case, sure they can leave. BUT, how they will get a new job is very complicated.

This is why our courts generally put a limit of reasonableness on the time and the scope of any “noncompete” clause.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If one wants to walk off the job and work somewhere else thats their right. They dont have to be forcibly employed. There are other protections.

No their isn't, name it