Judge rules pro-HAMAS foreigner can be deported for undermining U.S. policy

[Failzero]

Great idea. I also think they should go through the crowds at these Muslim-funded American universities and deport all foreign students participating in actions that advance even further the horrific antisemitism now existing there.

Get their Plate numbers off their cars and deep dive into their Funding and Social Media

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Ayup, the first amendment has gone the way of the Dodo.

Where have you been sileñced

 

[justoffal]

Ayup, the first amendment has gone the way of the Dodo.

The first amendment is not involved here at all.
Organized rabble rousing and criminal incitement is.

 

[irosie91]

Where have you been sileñced

.................if only

 

[toobfreak]

The problem is, once you've made it okay to arrest people for anti-Semitism, you've made it okay to arrest them for racism.

The problem with free speech and people like you is that you fail to realize that some day, those in power might decide the free speech that should be criminalized, is yours.

Either the president follows the law or the president makes the law. The latter is authoritarian.

Amazing that a foreigner comes to our soil espousing hatred against America supporting a vile terrorist organization and sworn enemy of America while fomenting violence and you have a problem with removing these bad seeds as somehow some imposition on /their/ rights, yet were 100% silent when democrats in Colorado just criminalized people's free speech to post political memes, were 100% silent when the Biden Administration criminalized anyone questioning his election or the circumstances and details of his election, imprisoned Americans for years just for attending a protest denying them bail, charges, legal counsel and due process, and banned people asking about or questioning the Covid lockdowns, or when Obama harassed charged and threatened members of the press from investigating and reporting on his activities, or reporting any negative stories about Biden. ITMT, people under Biden were getting arrested just for misgendering/using the wrong pronouns for some self-professed transgender.

Nope, but now you are deeply concerned.

Meanwhile, Biden created 17 laws in his first day in office, then pardoned his entire family against any and all unnamed crimes yet TBD for the whole past decade on his last day, but that wasn't authoritarian. Wow.

 

[Lisa558]

Amazing that a foreigner comes to our soil espousing hatred against America supporting a vile terrorist organization and sworn enemy of America while fomenting violence and you have a problem with removing these bad seeds as somehow some imposition on /their/ rights, yet were 100% silent when democrats in Colorado just criminalized people's free speech to post political memes, were 100% silent when the Biden Administration criminalized anyone questioning his election or the circumstances and details of his election, imprisoned Americans for years just for attending a protest denying them bail, charges, legal counsel and due process, and banned people asking about or questioning the Covid lockdowns, or when Obama harassed charged and threatened members of the press from investigating and reporting on his activities, or reporting any negative stories about Biden. ITMT, people under Biden were getting arrested just for misgendering/using the wrong pronouns for some self-professed transgender.

Nope, but now you are deeply concerned.

Meanwhile, Biden created 17 laws in his first day in office, then pardoned his entire family against any and all unnamed crimes yet TBD for the whole past decade on his last day, but that wasn't authoritarian. Wow.

1) The leftists are very tolerant of foreigners coming here to America and inciting more violence against Jews - “it’s free speech!” - but they would be up in arms if it were against any other minority.

2) Where was their call of “free speech!” when Trump said to peacefully make your voices heard? Oh no…..that was inciting an “insurrection” and they wanted him in prison for life.

If leftists didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

 

[Lisa558]

Reminder it’s not our country. Fuck those guys.

Huh? The antisemite spewing his HAMAS lies is a Muslim foreigner.

And this IS our country. He is not welcome here.

 

[Lisa558]

.................if only

A girl can hope!

 

[Coyote]

nobody is being arrested for being an antisemite---that would put
hundreds of thousands if not over millions in jail.

Yes, they are.

People are being
arrested for advocating the violation of the rights of jews via
advocating and engaging in vandalism, assault and denial of
right of access and menacing and advocating the support of
terrorism

What did Rümeysa Öztürk say or do that made her deserve to be treated this way?

When did she:
advocate for or engage in vandalism?
advocated for or support terrorism?
vandalize, assault or deny access to anyone?



As far as I can tell, her only “crime” was to appear on a list names provided to the administration by the “Canary Mission”, a pro-Israel doxxing site that seems to be on a mission to silence pro-Palestinian voices.

That is now a crime?

 

[Coyote]

Huh? The antisemite spewing his HAMAS lies is a Muslim foreigner.

And this IS our country. He is not welcome here.

This is OUR country. Not just yours.

 

[toobfreak]

1) The leftists are very tolerant of foreigners coming here to America and inciting more violence against Jews - “it’s free speech!” - but they would be up in arms if it were against any other minority.

All I can say to that Lisa is that I oppose fascism in all forms, whether it is against Jews, against Americans, or against the old, sick and poor, even when someone calls me a "Libber" claiming someone must have hacked my account, just because they don't understand the portent of the underlying implications in doing so because they appear harmless and just on the surface.

 

[Coyote]

Amazing that a foreigner comes to our soil espousing hatred against America supporting a vile terrorist organization and sworn enemy of America while fomenting violence and you have a problem with removing these bad seeds as somehow some imposition on /their/ rights, yet were 100% silent when democrats in Colorado just criminalized people's free speech to post political memes, were 100% silent when the Biden Administration criminalized anyone questioning his election or the circumstances and details of his election, imprisoned Americans for years just for attending a protest denying them bail, charges, legal counsel and due process, and banned people asking about or questioning the Covid lockdowns, or when Obama harassed charged and threatened members of the press from investigating and reporting on his activities, or reporting any negative stories about Biden. ITMT, people under Biden were getting arrested just for misgendering/using the wrong pronouns for some self-professed transgender.

Nope, but now you are deeply concerned.

Meanwhile, Biden created 17 laws in his first day in office, then pardoned his entire family against any and all unnamed crimes yet TBD for the whole past decade on his last day, but that wasn't authoritarian. Wow.

What “vile terrorist organization” did Rumeysa Ozturk support?

 

[toobfreak]

This is OUR country. Not just yours.

How sad Mrs. C that you see yourself and Lisa (both U.S. citizens I presume) as two different and separate things just because your viewpoints differ.

 

[Coyote]

All I can say to that Lisa is that I oppose fascism in all forms, whether it is against Jews, against Americans, or against the old, sick and poor, even when someone calls me a "Libber" claiming someone must have hacked my account, just because they don't understand the portent of the underlying implications in doing so because they appear harmless and just on the surface.

But fascism against people who support human rights for Palestinians is ok?

 

[Coyote]

How sad Mrs. C that you see yourself and Lisa (both U.S. citizens I presume) as two different and separate things just because your viewpoints differ.

Not sad at all. Lisa states that people (Muslims, Palestinians) are not welcome here because she doesn’t like them and it’s “our” country.

And I’m saying it is ALL OUR country, and that they too are welcome here to be part of America just like any other group.

 

[toobfreak]

What “vile terrorist organization” did Rumeysa Ozturk support?

What vile terrorist organization did Matt Perna and Ashli Babbit support?

They both got the death sentence just for defending our U.S. Constitution.

At least both these people were Americans.

 

[Coyote]

1) The leftists are very tolerant of foreigners coming here to America and inciting more violence against Jews - “it’s free speech!” - but they would be up in arms if it were against any other minority.

2) Where was their call of “free speech!” when Trump said to peacefully make your voices heard? Oh no…..that was inciting an “insurrection” and they wanted him in prison for life.

If leftists didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

You consider any expression of support for the Palestinians to be “Violence” against Jews.

You constantly and consistently conflate support for the human rights of Palestinians and opposition to Israel’s war in Gaza to be support for pro-Hamas.

So your solution is to suppress any criticism of Israel.

 

[toobfreak]

But fascism against people who support human rights for Palestinians is ok?

Support is fine. Take your protests to Israel, the alleged offenders, or take your protests to some peaceful sidewalk protest. ITMT, I've long held that not all Palis are bad until seeing a video recently taken over in Gaza interviewing them on the street where 80% of them still support Hamas and train children to hate and kill Jews.

But then, our former president Joe Biden was a big Hamas supporter, in office, he did many things which made it impossible for us to fight or oppose Hamas (in many ways, Joe is the reason for the war in Gaza now) while he actually sponsored them with billions of dollars, and where is Joe? in prison? Deported? Nope, Joe is off right now jerking off on a beach somewhere in between appearances on the View spewing lies after calling half of America his greatest national security terrorist threat and having his FBI put many Americans on a terror watch list (including Tulsi Gabbard and parents from school board meetings).

So when you get back to me and denounce Joe Biden and Hamas, I'll denounce whatever they are doing now to whomever it is whose name I cannot pronounce who you now have a bug up your ass about this week.

So see, when you let a problem get as big as this for as long as it was left to grow by the Left, like an asteroid on collision with the Earth, instead of just a gentle nudge to deflect it, you end up having to bludgeon the problem with a big hammer.

Let the hammering commence.

 

[Failzero]

Stove How sad Mrs. C that you see yourself and Lisa (both U.S. citizens I presume) as two different and separate things just because your viewpoints differ.

I’m a Nationalist Republican Militia inspired ultra conservative Shasta County Recall voter with a California CCW but her viewpoints align with mine

 

[toobfreak]

Not sad at all. Lisa states that people (Muslims, Palestinians) are not welcome here because she doesn’t like them and it’s “our” country.
And I’m saying it is ALL OUR country, and that they too are welcome here to be part of America just like any other group.

These people are welcome here just fine IMO so long as they come here in support of being Americans and our way of life, rather than fomenting violence. But America is not /their/ country, nor the worlds, it is ours, and others visiting here need to respect and stay within our laws. And please, take the damned towels off your heads. Keep that shit at home. I hate that stuff. No one here cares about not seeing your face and it poses a security problem for police and stuff.

BTW, I see that the lady from Tufts you are so worried about has now been released from detention. That is far more generous than Joe Biden was with thousands of Americans.