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If you join a political party that advocates overthrowing the government and that is backed by a hostile foreign power, you could be prosecuted, and/or have your citizenship revoked, and/or deported.
There is a wide range of acceptable, non-treasonous political views. But if you stray outside that spectrum, then, no, you have no right to work and live here.
Here's a great interview in 2008 with the late M. Stanton Evans, who was arguably the foremost scholar on Joseph McCarthy in our history. Stanton wrote the massive defense of McCarthy titled Blacklisted By History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies (2007).
Oh, so the people of China, North Korea, and North Vietnam "picked" communism?! Uh, well, this might be what your PRC handlers have taught you, but most of us here in the free world know that Communist rule was imposed on those populations by deception and coercion, and when those people began to realize that the Communists' promises were false, the Communists had to resort to vicious brutality to maintain control.
Or this "Brutality" often happened in countries that had undergone years of civil war/foreign invasion, and life was already cheapened.
The problem you seem to have is you confuse why the Communists won. It's not because the people of China or N. Vietnam (North Korea is a different case) suddenly loved them some Karl Marx.The reality, you stupid, is that the people we backed were corrupt and incompetent and often quislings for foreign invaders. THAT'S WHY THEY LOST.
It was because the people who they were fighting against were seen as tools of the west or quislings.
-- That's why the Communists
Oh, boy, more Bircher crap.
-- That's why North Vietnam had to use large numbers of troops on its southern border to keep its subjects from fleeing to South Vietnam during the war.
Yeah, funny thing. Once we stopped propping Saigon up, they were gone in 55 days. For Sale, 500,000 ARVN rifles. Never fired, only dropped once.
You can repeat this Communist tale a million times, but that won't make it magically come true. The Nationalists were beating the Communists in China until Truman and Marshall imposed ceasefires, undermined their currency by holding up promised loans, and then cut off their arms supply.
The Communists took over North Korea because the Soviets invaded Korea at the end of WW II and set up Kim Ilsung in power to begin his monstrous regime. (Let me guess: You don't think Kim Ilsung was all that bad, right?) Soviet forces stayed in North Korea until 1948 to ensure that the Communist regime was firmly established.
No, actually, you foul-mouthed pro-Communist piece of garbage, it's stuff that most educated people in the free world have known for decades and that has been documented in thousands of books and in dozens of documentaries that have been aired on American TV for years now. Your PRC handlers really should let you out of your room to watch some American TV and read some American books every now and then.
n other words, we can add the Vietnam War to the list of subjects about which you are ignorant and about which you parrot Communist/liberal propaganda (the Communist and liberal spins on the Vietnam War are virtually identical).
Here's a free lesson in real history for you. While your buddies the Democrats were busy ensuring that we slashed our aid to South Vietnam, the Soviet Union and China massively re-armed North Vietnam, and when North Vietnam broke the peace agreement and began to invade South Vietnam, the Democrats refused to honor our promise to provide air support to keep South Vietnam free. Like you, the Democrats did not care that North Vietnam was getting massive supplies and weapons from Russia and Red China.
In a complete betrayal of the letter and the spirit of the Paris Peace Accord, the most liberal congress in a generation proceeded to cut off virtually all military assistance to South Vietnam and Cambodia in March 1975. Historian Louis Fanning stated: It was not the Hanoi communists who won the war, but rather the American Congress that lost it. Within weeks of this infamous and disgraceful betrayal, North Vietnam, with the full military support of the Soviet Union and Communist China, launched a full-scale invasion of the south.
There is a wide range of acceptable, non-treasonous political views.
We wanted out- both parties. Nixon signed an agreement that he knew no one was going to honor, to get us out before the 1972 election.
There's a reason why they called him "Tricky Dick", and it wasn't because he was popular with the ladies.
If you join a political party that advocates overthrowing the government and that is backed by a hostile foreign power, you could be prosecuted, and/or have your citizenship revoked, and/or deported.
There is a wide range of acceptable, non-treasonous political views. But if you stray outside that spectrum, then, no, you have no right to work and live here.
I agree, let's deport all the Mormons... They are clearly outside the spectrum of "acceptable" when they think a pedophile was talking to God.
This hateful, strange, and troubling polemic not only shows how rude and ignorant you are, but it shows how far out of the American mainstream you are, how extreme and fringe you are.
FYI, in 2012, a Mormon, Mitt Romney, won the Republican Party's presidential nomination and narrowly lost to the incumbent, Barack Obama. Romney won 24 states and received 60,933,000 votes. There are 10 Mormons serving in Congress as we speak. There are numerous Mormons who have been elected as state senators and representatives around the country. Dozens of Mormons have been, and continue to be, star athletes in the NFL, the NHL, the NBA, and MLB. There are dozens of Mormons serving as federal and state judges.
That’s a bit crazy Joe. Are you aware the OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE...had been in the White House for four years? So, there goes your hateful bigoted opinion out the window.This hateful, strange, and troubling polemic not only shows how rude and ignorant you are, but it shows how far out of the American mainstream you are, how extreme and fringe you are.
FYI, in 2012, a Mormon, Mitt Romney, won the Republican Party's presidential nomination and narrowly lost to the incumbent, Barack Obama. Romney won 24 states and received 60,933,000 votes. There are 10 Mormons serving in Congress as we speak. There are numerous Mormons who have been elected as state senators and representatives around the country. Dozens of Mormons have been, and continue to be, star athletes in the NFL, the NHL, the NBA, and MLB. There are dozens of Mormons serving as federal and state judges.
Um, yeah, let's look at that. The Evangelicals didn't support Romney in 2008 because he was a Mormon.
And then Barack Obama got elected and OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Romney could have been sacrificing virgins to C'Thulhu and the Evangelicals, racist fucks that they are, would have supported him.
But your fucked up little cult was still started by a two-bit con man who was fucking little girls. Deal with it.
If you join a political party that advocates overthrowing the government and that is backed by a hostile foreign power, you could be prosecuted, and/or have your citizenship revoked, and/or deported.
Says the guy who thinks the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified. . . .
That’s a bit crazy Joe. Are you aware the OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE...had been in the White House for four years? So, there goes your hateful bigoted opinion out the window.
Don’t you find it informative that your girl Hillary couldn’t beat a two bit con man?
What does Pearl Harbor have to do with the fact that you have no right to belong to a subversive, enemy-controlled party in America?
Anyway, I think this is the fourth or fifth time you’ve made this statement. I’ve been ignoring it because clearly you’ve been making it to try to divert attention away from your pro-Communist sympathies and your repeated gaffes, and because it is another example of your grade-school-level, superficial polemic.
I’m guessing that you are confusing justified with provoked. When FDR announced the Pearl Harbor attack to the American people, he claimed it was “unprovoked,” when in fact it was a response to a long series of increasingly severe provocations and was done only after Japan’s leaders had exerted great effort to reach a peace agreement with FDR. Indeed, if three other nations had done to us what we, the British, and the Dutch did to the Japanese before Pearl Harbor, we probably would have responded with force much sooner than the Japanese did.
Most casual students of the Pacific War are not aware that the Japanese hoped that the Pearl Harbor attack would cause American government to decide to avoid further entanglement in the Sino-Japanese War and in Asia as a whole, and that Japan and FDR could then reach some kind of non-aggression agreement. Obviously, this was one of the worst, most horrendous miscalculations in world history.
If the Japanese had limited their attack on Pearl Harbor to an attack on logistics and supplies, as suggested above, and had therefore caused far fewer casualties, this might have generated far less outrage in America. It certainly would have made it harder for FDR to demagogue the attack the way he did.
Of course, if aliens had come down to Earth to pass judgment on the Pearl Harbor attack, they would have revealed that FDR and certain other high officials not only provoked Japan to attack but knew Pearl Harbor would be targeted. The aliens would have revealed that FDR and other high officials believed that provoking Japan to attack Pearl Harbor was the only way to overcome the public’s opposition to entering the war, and that the price of a few thousand American deaths was an acceptable price to get America into the war.
LOL!!!!! If you had bothered to even read that article--the article that you cited--you would have discovered that Joseph McCarthy had nothing to do with the Hollywood blacklists! Nothing. Zippo. Nada. Zilch. The blacklists resulted from investigations by the House Un-American Activities Committee.
If you had bothered to read the articles I provide in the OP, you would have already known this.
According to you, Drunken Joe was the Piano Player at the whorehouse who had no idea what was going on upstairs. There's a reason why the movement of the hysterical Red Scare of the 1950's is called "McCarthyism" today and not "Nixonism". Because Tricky Dick knew there were sensible limits.
In other words, you can't admit when you're wrong, even when you're caught making a demonstrably erroneous statement. The Hollywood Blacklist began in the 1940s, not the 1950s. In fact, it began a year before McCarthy began serving in the U.S. Senate. And, again, McCarthy never got involved with investigating Hollywood, because this was being done by the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).
So, now, are you ever going to name someone whose life was ruined by false charges made by Senator McCarthy?
https://www.history.com/news/7-famous-victims-of-the-hollywood-blacklistNow that we've established that the blacklist began before McCarthy began serving in the Senate and that he had nothing to do with it, are you going to name one person whose life was ruined by false charges made by McCarthy?
https://www.history.com/news/7-famous-victims-of-the-hollywood-blacklistNow that we've established that the blacklist began before McCarthy began serving in the Senate and that he had nothing to do with it, are you going to name one person whose life was ruined by false charges made by McCarthy?
LOL! Uh, did you miss the part, which you even quoted, that McCarthy had nothing to do with the Hollywood Blacklist?
As for JoeB131's listing of Fred Fisher and Dorothy Kenyon as victims of false claims by McCarthy, these two bogus "victim" cases were addressed in the links I provided, which JoeB Mao and Me clearly did not read. His inclusion of Kenyon is especially comical. But, let's start with Fisher:
Evidence presented in the other six cases showed that two (Haldore Hanson and Gustavo Duran) had been identified as members of the Communist Party, that three (Dorothy Kenyon, Frederick Schuman, and Harlow Shapley) had extensive records of joining Communist fronts and supporting Communist causes, and that one (Esther Brunauer) had sufficient questionable associations to be dismissed from the State Department as a security risk in June 1952. For further details, see Chapter VII of McCarthy and His Enemies by William Buckley and Brent Bozell.
LOL! Uh, did you miss the part, which you even quoted, that McCarthy had nothing to do with the Hollywood Blacklist?
As for JoeB131's listing of Fred Fisher and Dorothy Kenyon as victims of false claims by McCarthy, these two bogus "victim" cases were addressed in the links I provided, which JoeB Mao and Me clearly did not read. His inclusion of Kenyon is especially comical. But, let's start with Fisher:
You mean a fine American who was slandered by his government because of his affiliations.
Once again, might be a day in the future when Mormonism is declared a cult... then what would you do?
Evidence presented in the other six cases showed that two (Haldore Hanson and Gustavo Duran) had been identified as members of the Communist Party, that three (Dorothy Kenyon, Frederick Schuman, and Harlow Shapley) had extensive records of joining Communist fronts and supporting Communist causes, and that one (Esther Brunauer) had sufficient questionable associations to be dismissed from the State Department as a security risk in June 1952. For further details, see Chapter VII of McCarthy and His Enemies by William Buckley and Brent Bozell.
So what? Hey, you claim to be a great American, did you check out the First Amendment?
In other words, you simply do not care about facts, much less honesty. I've asked you several times now to cite a single case to support your claim that some persons had their lives ruined by false charges made by McCarthy. Fisher doesn't qualify in either category: his life was not ruined, and McCarthy's claim was not false--in fact, McCarthy had nothing to do with Fisher's getting fired.
If anti-religious bigots like you ever come to power in sufficient numbers, I'm sure people of faith will face many of the same threats and challenges that religious people in China and North Korea face.
The "so what" is that I'm still waiting for you to cite a single case where a person's life was ruined by false charges made by McCarthy. McCarthy's charges against Kenyon were not only true but were supported by other government entities.
And, again, I know you don't know much about America's laws and government, but under the Constitution you do *not*--again, DO NOT--have the "right" to join a subversive party controlled by a foreign hostile nation, much less the right to join such a party and expect to be able to work in the U.S. Government.
