Oh, so the people of China, North Korea, and North Vietnam "picked" communism?! Uh, well, this might be what your PRC handlers have taught you, but most of us here in the free world know that Communist rule was imposed on those populations by deception and coercion, and when those people began to realize that the Communists' promises were false, the Communists had to resort to vicious brutality to maintain control.
Or this "Brutality" often happened in countries that had undergone years of civil war/foreign invasion, and life was already cheapened.
The problem you seem to have is you confuse why the Communists won. It's not because the people of China or N. Vietnam (North Korea is a different case) suddenly loved them some Karl Marx.
It was because the people who they were fighting against were seen as tools of the west or quislings.
The reality, you stupid, is that the people we backed were corrupt and incompetent and often quislings for foreign invaders. THAT'S WHY THEY LOST.
You can repeat this Communist tale a million times, but that won't make it magically come true. The Nationalists were beating the Communists in China until Truman and Marshall imposed ceasefires, undermined their currency by holding up promised loans, and then cut off their arms supply. The Communists took over North Korea because the Soviets invaded Korea at the end of WW II and set up Kim Ilsung in power to begin his monstrous regime. (Let me guess: You don't think Kim Ilsung was all that bad, right?) Soviet forces stayed in North Korea until 1948 to ensure that the Communist regime was firmly established.
-- That's why the Communists
Oh, boy, more Bircher crap.
No, actually, you foul-mouthed pro-Communist piece of garbage, it's stuff that most educated people in the free world have known for decades and that has been documented in thousands of books and in dozens of documentaries that have been aired on American TV for years now. Your PRC handlers really should let you out of your room to watch some American TV and read some American books every now and then.
-- That's why North Vietnam had to use large numbers of troops on its southern border to keep its subjects from fleeing to South Vietnam during the war.
Yeah, funny thing. Once we stopped propping Saigon up, they were gone in 55 days. For Sale, 500,000 ARVN rifles. Never fired, only dropped once.
In other words, we can add the Vietnam War to the list of subjects about which you are ignorant and about which you parrot Communist/liberal propaganda (the Communist and liberal spins on the Vietnam War are virtually identical).
Here's a free lesson in real history for you. While your buddies the Democrats were busy ensuring that we slashed our aid to South Vietnam, the Soviet Union and China massively re-armed North Vietnam, and when North Vietnam broke the peace agreement and began to invade South Vietnam, the Democrats refused to honor our promise to provide air support to keep South Vietnam free. Like you, the Democrats did not care that North Vietnam was getting massive supplies and weapons from Russia and Red China.
Lauren Zanoli in a good article on the History News Network:
Historians have directly attributed the fall of Saigon in 1975 to the cessation of American aid. Without the necessary funds, South Vietnam found it logistically and financially impossible to defeat the North Vietnamese army. Moreover, the withdrawal of aid encouraged North Vietnam to begin an effective military offensive against South Vietnam. Given the monetary and military investment in Vietnam, former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage compared the American withdrawal to “a pregnant lady, abandoned by her lover to face her fate."
(2) Historian Lewis Fanning went so far as to say that “it was not the Hanoi communists who won the war, but rather the American Congress that lost it."
(3). . . .
In the fall of 1974, Nixon resigned under the pressure of the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Gerald Ford. Congress cut funding to South Vietnam for the upcoming fiscal year from a proposed 1.26 billion to 700 million dollars. These two events prompted Hanoi to make an all-out effort to conquer the South. As the North Vietnamese Communist Party Secretary Le Duan observed in December 1974: “The Americans have withdrawn…this is what marks the opportune moment."
(4)
The NVA drew up a two-year plan for the “liberation” of South Vietnam. Owing to South Vietnam’s weakened state, this would only take fifty-five days. The drastic reduction of American aid to South Vietnam caused a sharp decline in morale, as well as an increase in governmental corruption and a crackdown on domestic political dissent. The South Vietnamese army was severely under-funded, greatly outnumbered, and lacked the support of the American allies with whom they were accustomed to fighting. (
What Happened When Democrats in Congress Cut Off Funding for the Vietnam War? | History News Network)
Chuck Morse:
By late 1972, North Vietnam and the Viet Cong were virtually defeated, American troops had been mostly withdrawn, and the war was winding down. America had at that point bombed North Vietnam into submission with B-52’s, with the mining Haiphong Harbor and by disabling the Ho Chi Minh Trail along with incursions into Cambodia. Indications were that South Vietnam was stepping up to the task of defending itself, was addressing its problems of corruption and was beginning to prosper.
The Paris Peace Accords were signed January 27, 1973, officially ending hostilities between North and South Vietnam and leaving the cease fire border at the same DMZ that was originally established by the 1954 Geneva Agreement. North Vietnam had failed in its goal of conquering South Vietnam which was, in turn, guaranteed sovereign rights by the agreement. North Vietnam proceeded to withdraw and return American POW’s. The United States signed several separate side agreements with South Vietnam that insured American training, military, and material support and economic assistance. The war was over, the shooting had stopped, South Vietnam was free.
Two months later, President Richard M. Nixon became embroiled in the Watergate scandal that consumed his presidency over the next year and a half leading to his resignation on August 8, 1974. This was followed two months later by the November 1974 mid-term election which resulted in a resounding victory for the Democrats who consolidated control over both the Senate and the House. Many left-wing Senators and congressmen were elected that year including Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Joe Biden of Delaware. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts emerged as the liberal Democratic ring-leader.
In a complete betrayal of the letter and the spirit of the Paris Peace Accord, the most liberal congress in a generation proceeded to cut off virtually all military assistance to South Vietnam and Cambodia in March 1975. Historian Louis Fanning stated:
It was not the Hanoi communists who won the war, but rather the American Congress that lost it. Within weeks of this infamous and disgraceful betrayal, North Vietnam, with the full military support of the Soviet Union and Communist China, launched a full-scale invasion of the south.
Standing alone against the brutal onslaught, South Vietnam was forced to surrender, April 29, 1975. The result was the type of wholesale slaughter of the innocent that often accompanies a communist takeover. Simultaneously, Cambodia fell to the Khmer Rouge headed by Marxist doctrinaire leader Pol Pot. The subsequent Cambodian genocide resulted in an estimated million-plus dead. Hundreds of thousands of fleeing Vietnamese men, women, and children got on rickety boats in shark infested waters to escape from Ho Chi Minh’s left-wing progressive paradise. (
The Vietnam War Was Lost by Liberal, Post-Nixon Congress)
Some other free educational sources for you:
The Truth about the Vietnam War
Using your pro-Communist logic, we should have abandoned South Korea because it could not survive without our "propping up." We should have abandoned Greece because the Communists would have taken control without our "propping up."
