Joseph McCarthy Was Right in Most Cases

[bripat9643]

Nope. They were Russian spies who gave the secrets of the atomic bomb to Stalin. If anyone in this country ever deserved to be executed for treason, they did.

The Soviets had as many scientists working on the problem as we had, and after the war, they got most of the German Scientists.

The didn't get the bomb until the Rosenbergs handed them the solution. That's an irrefutable historical fact.

 

[JoeB131]

The didn't get the bomb until the Rosenbergs handed them the solution. That's an irrefutable historical fact.

Not really. In fact there's a lot of doubt that Ethel was involved in espinoge at all.

'Atom spy' Ethel Rosenberg's conviction in new doubt after testimony released

 

[CrusaderFrank]

OOOPS, Joe Blowhard, the card carrying commie.....

Again. So what?

We aren't talking about spies that they had in the Manhatten project (although the Soviets were perfectly capable of coming up with the bomb on their own and did)... we are talking about low level figures who had their lives ruined because some time in the 1930's, they went to a Communist meeting to listen.

I suspect that if someone decided that conspiracy nutjobs who think that, oh, I don't know, that Sandy Hook was a false flag and we were going to ruin their lives, you'd be a lot of trouble.

You keep confusing the McCarthy with the HUAC

 

[Flash]

When you look at all those Left Wing Democrat assholes at the SOTU address and you see the attempted coupe of Trump by the Deep State Libtard turds then you know that McCarthy was right.

 

[bripat9643]

The didn't get the bomb until the Rosenbergs handed them the solution. That's an irrefutable historical fact.

Not really. In fact there's a lot of doubt that Ethel was involved in espinoge at all.

'Atom spy' Ethel Rosenberg's conviction in new doubt after testimony released

The Venona papers confirmed irrefutably that she was, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

OOOPS, Joe Blowhard, the card carrying commie.....

Again. So what?

We aren't talking about spies that they had in the Manhatten project (although the Soviets were perfectly capable of coming up with the bomb on their own and did)... we are talking about low level figures who had their lives ruined because some time in the 1930's, they went to a Communist meeting to listen.

I suspect that if someone decided that conspiracy nutjobs who think that, oh, I don't know, that Sandy Hook was a false flag and we were going to ruin their lives, you'd be a lot of trouble.

You keep confusing the McCarthy with the HUAC

They all do. They all claim to be experts on McCarthy, but they invariably demonstrate their ignorance.

 

[JoeB131]

The Venona papers confirmed irrefutably that she was, moron.

The Verona Papers aren't reliable............

They all do. They all claim to be experts on McCarthy, but they invariably demonstrate their ignorance.

History has spoken on McCarthy, a cheap demogogue who disgraced the freedoms America stands for.

Hopefully, he's saving Trump a seat in Hell.

 

[bripat9643]

The Venona papers confirmed irrefutably that she was, moron.

The Verona Papers aren't reliable............

ROFL! Says who?

They all do. They all claim to be experts on McCarthy, but they invariably demonstrate their ignorance.

History has spoken on McCarthy, a cheap demogogue who disgraced the freedoms America stands for.

Hopefully, he's saving Trump a seat in Hell.

The Venona papers say McCarthy was right. When you say "history" you mean your ignorant understanding of history.

 

[Dale Smith]

The Venona papers confirmed irrefutably that she was, moron.

The Verona Papers aren't reliable............

They all do. They all claim to be experts on McCarthy, but they invariably demonstrate their ignorance.

History has spoken on McCarthy, a cheap demogogue who disgraced the freedoms America stands for.

Hopefully, he's saving Trump a seat in Hell.

McCarthy attacked the commie faction that started infiltrating every branch of government that George Racy Jordan was trying to expose it back in the late 40's and his record keeping of sending not only uranium but also printing plates and ink to print occupational money which could be exchanged for federal reserve notes.
I am sure you are too gutless to listen to this talk given by Major Jordan......but to the others that have been bitchslapping you on this topic? They will listen to this and have further ammo to smack your commie ass around with.



Hope this helps!

 

[JoeB131]

McCarthy attacked the commie faction that started infiltrating every branch of government that George Racy Jordan was trying to expose it back in the late 40's and his record keeping of sending not only uranium but also printing plates and ink to print occupational money which could be exchanged for federal reserve notes.
I am sure you are too gutless to listen to this talk given by Major Jordan......but to the others that have been bitchslapping you on this topic? They will listen to this and have further ammo to smack your commie ass around with.

Yawn, guy, you pulling some weird bircher nut who managed to get a commission because the Army threw him out is nothing to be impressed by.

THis pretty much should tell you all you need to know.

Jordan had already been active as a lecturer, and after his Congressional testimony [8] he was much in demand nationwide. He specialized in making anti-communist speeches and serving in several fringe and right-wing causes. In particular, Jordan, who had been puzzled by the wartime delivery of "vast quantities of sodium fluoride" to the USSR, promoted the theory that fluoridation of public water supplies was a hidden Communist plot against America. He was quoted as follows: "I know fluoridation to be a very secret Russian revolutionary technique to deaden our minds, slow our reflexes, and gradually kill our will to resist aggression."[9]

Yup, Flouridation is a communist plot. Those commies wanted to make sure I still had my teeth at 58.

 

[initforme]

Sensible people laughed off McCarthy...my dad used to talk about him and it wasn't real pretty.

 

[22lcidw]

We do not want to admit there was a strong communist influence in our nation. Hollywood was full of them or were communist sympathizers. The Great Depression was a breeding ground for it. And frankly if anyone had a hard time it may have sounded like a good alternative. The news from the then Soviet Union was that people were not living badly. medical care and work was plentiful. But the 30-40 million killed as dissenters and through collectivism was not reported. The brutality of Stalin eliminating anyone seen as a competitor to him was not reported. There is more. And that is what we are going to get in some way when the Progs take complete control of us.

 

[JoeB131]

We do not want to admit there was a strong communist influence in our nation. Hollywood was full of them or were communist sympathizers. The Great Depression was a breeding ground for it. And frankly if anyone had a hard time it may have sounded like a good alternative. The news from the then Soviet Union was that people were not living badly. medical care and work was plentiful. But the 30-40 million killed as dissenters and through collectivism was not reported. The brutality of Stalin eliminating anyone seen as a competitor to him was not reported. There is more. And that is what we are going to get in some way when the Progs take complete control of us.

It wasn't reported because it didn't happen.

Uh, guy, the population of the USSR INCREASED From 1919 to 1952 despite the supposed 30 million Stalin killed on top of the 20 million killed in WWII.

 

[bripat9643]

Sensible people laughed off McCarthy...my dad used to talk about him and it wasn't real pretty.

Your dad was a communist?

 

[mikegriffith1]

We do not want to admit there was a strong communist influence in our nation. Hollywood was full of them or were communist sympathizers. The Great Depression was a breeding ground for it. And frankly if anyone had a hard time it may have sounded like a good alternative. The news from the then Soviet Union was that people were not living badly. medical care and work was plentiful. But the 30-40 million killed as dissenters and through collectivism was not reported. The brutality of Stalin eliminating anyone seen as a competitor to him was not reported. There is more. And that is what we are going to get in some way when the Progs take complete control of us.

It wasn't reported because it didn't happen.

LOL!!! WHAAAAAT????? "It didn't happen"????? And you talk about "Holocaust denial"?!!! Stalin's holocaust was far worse than Hitler's holocaust. Both were horrific, but Stalin's claimed many more lives.

Stalin’s Genocides

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

USSR--Genocide and Mass Murder

The Communist holocaust and its lessons for the 21st Century - CapX

https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Letters-Untold-Story-Martyr/dp/1541644239&tag=ff0d01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GGCR76K/?tag=ff0d01-20

Who Killed More: Hitler, Stalin, or Mao?

Major Soviet Paper Says 20 Million Died As Victims of Stalin

The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33

The Butchery of Hitler and Stalin

https://www.ushmm.org/confront-geno...al-perspective/ukraine-1933-the-terror-famine

 

[JoeB131]

LOL!!! WHAAAAAT????? "It didn't happen"????? And you talk about "Holocaust denial"?!!! Stalin's holocaust was far worse than Hitler's holocaust. Both were horrific, but Stalin's claimed many more lives.

Yawn, guy no one is interested in your Bircher Propaganda...

Again, if Stalin killed so many people, why did the population of the USSR increase 30% under his reign?

From 120MM in 1920 to 182 million in 1951. Even with about 20 million dying in World War II.

Never mind, we know math isn't one of your strong points.

 

[mikegriffith1]

LOL!!! WHAAAAAT????? "It didn't happen"????? And you talk about "Holocaust denial"?!!! Stalin's holocaust was far worse than Hitler's holocaust. Both were horrific, but Stalin's claimed many more lives.

Yawn, guy no one is interested in your Bircher Propaganda...

What a chuckle. Uh, which among the sources I cited are "Bircher" sources? I take it you didn't bother to actually read any of them, right? Otherwise, you would have known that none of them are "Bircher" sources. One of them was a New York Times article.

Again, if Stalin killed so many people, why did the population of the USSR increase 30% under his reign? From 120MM in 1920 to 182 million in 1951. Even with about 20 million dying in World War II. Never mind, we know math isn't one of your strong points.

LOL!!! Oh, boy. You are the gift that just keeps on giving! Trigger alert: Logic and facts coming. Okay, you ready?

Did it ever occur to you that you can't trust Soviet statistics?! Did that thought every pop into your Communist-brainwashed mind? Did it occur to you that in order to try to cover up their years of mass murders, the Soviets would fiddle with their population statistics in the hope that useful idiots, or willing sympathizers, like you would gobble them up and said, "Gee, you see! The Soviets couldn't have killed all those millions of people!"

Now, are you going to deal with the evidence presented in the articles I cited that Stalin killed some 20 million people? Do you have any idea how many scholars--liberal and conservative alike--have discussed the evidence of the Soviet Holocaust? Do you know how many Soviet dissidents have written about the millions of Soviet subjects who were killed by Stalin and his thugs over the course of several decades?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

When you decide to do serious research on Senator Joseph McCarthy, you soon discover that McCarthy was right in most cases. Far from being the reckless muckraker that most of our history books have long claimed he was, if anything, we now know that McCarthy somewhat understated the severity of Communist penetration into the U.S. government.

When the Venona decrypts were released in 1995, we discovered that they identified at least 349 people who cooperated in various ways with Soviet intelligence agencies. For example, the Venona files reveal that the Senate Civil Liberties Subcommittee, chaired by former Senator Robert LaFollette, whom McCarthy defeated in 1946, had at least four staff members working on behalf of the KGB. John Abt, the Chief Counsel of the Committee; Charles Kramer, who served on three other Congressional Committees; Allen Rosenberg, who also served on the National Labor Relations Board, Board of Economic Warfare (BEW), the Foreign Economic Administration (FEA), and later argued cases before the United States Supreme Court; and Charles Flato, who served on the BEW and FEA, were all members of the Communist Party USA and were associated with the Soviet-run Comintern.

No credible scholar now denies that Soviet agents and sympathizers penetrated into the highest levels of the U.S. government in the 1930s and 1940s, including the White House and the State Department. It has long been known that the Soviets were able to place agents into the top levels of the Manhattan Project, and that one of them, Klaus Fuchs, even attended the first nuke test in New Mexico and then sent a detailed report about it to Joseph Stalin. It has also been known for a long time that FDR's Secretary of the Treasury, Harry Dexter White, was a Soviet spy, and that one of the members of the team that FDR took to Yalta, Alger Hiss, was also a Soviet Spy. In 1944, Hiss became director of the State Department's Office of Special Political Affairs. We have also known for some time now that some American officials in China and/or who worked on China affairs were Communist agents or sympathizers, such as John Stewart Service, Solomon Adler, Owen Lattimore, and Lauchlin Currie--these men played an important role in feeding false information about the state of affairs in China back to Washington.

Time does not allow me to address all the myths and distortions that liberals have spun about Senator McCarthy, so I will deal with one of the main ones, an issue that is hammered on in every anti-McCarthy book and article: the number of names that McCarthy claimed to have of Communist agents and sympathizers/security risks.

Liberals have claimed that McCarthy couldn't even decide how many names he had of Communists and pro-Communists/security risks. Historian James Drummond explains the matter:

Q. Wasn't it reported that McCarthy used the number 205 in his Wheeling speech, lowered it to 57 later, and then raised it again to 81?​

A. Yes, this was reported, and here is the explanation: In the Wheeling speech, McCarthy referred to a letter that Secretary of State James Byrnes sent to Congressman Adolph Sabath in 1946. In that letter, Byrnes said that State Department security investigators had declared 284 persons unfit to hold jobs in the department because of Communist connections and other reasons, but that only 79 had been discharged, leaving 205 still on the State Department's payroll. McCarthy told his Wheeling audience that while he did not have the names of the 205 mentioned in the Byrnes letter, he did have the names of 57 who were either members of or loyal to the Communist Party. On February 20, 1950, McCarthy gave the Senate information about 81 individuals -- the 57 referred to at Wheeling and 24 others of less importance and about whom the evidence was less conclusive.​

The enemies of McCarthy have juggled these numbers around to make the Senator appear to be erratic and to distract attention from the paramount question: Were there still Alger Hisses in the State Department betraying this nation? McCarthy was not being inconsistent in his use of the numbers; the 57 and 81 were part of the 205 mentioned in the Byrnes letter. (The New American - McCarthyism - Forty questions and answers about Senator Joseph McCarthy - May 11, 1987)​

Sources for further study:

M. Stanton Evans' seminal book Blacklisted By History: The Untold Story of Senator Joseph McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies

M. Stanton Evans' Response to Ronald Radosh

Two Defenses of McCarthy by Two 1950s Conservatives

Conservapedia Article on Joseph McCarthy

Summary of Arthur Herman's Book on Joseph McCarthy

40 Questions and Answers About Senator McCarthy

Owen Lattiimore

Solomon Adler

Lauchlin Currie

The Venona Files

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[Dale Smith]

McCarthy attacked the commie faction that started infiltrating every branch of government that George Racy Jordan was trying to expose it back in the late 40's and his record keeping of sending not only uranium but also printing plates and ink to print occupational money which could be exchanged for federal reserve notes.
I am sure you are too gutless to listen to this talk given by Major Jordan......but to the others that have been bitchslapping you on this topic? They will listen to this and have further ammo to smack your commie ass around with.

Yawn, guy, you pulling some weird bircher nut who managed to get a commission because the Army threw him out is nothing to be impressed by.

THis pretty much should tell you all you need to know.

Jordan had already been active as a lecturer, and after his Congressional testimony [8] he was much in demand nationwide. He specialized in making anti-communist speeches and serving in several fringe and right-wing causes. In particular, Jordan, who had been puzzled by the wartime delivery of "vast quantities of sodium fluoride" to the USSR, promoted the theory that fluoridation of public water supplies was a hidden Communist plot against America. He was quoted as follows: "I know fluoridation to be a very secret Russian revolutionary technique to deaden our minds, slow our reflexes, and gradually kill our will to resist aggression."[9]

Yup, Flouridation is a communist plot. Those commies wanted to make sure I still had my teeth at 58.

Yawwwwwn, I get it....since Major Jordan was an anti-commie and you are an outright marxist? Of course you will lamely attempt to minimize what he recorded in his journal and all of what he stated has never been refuted and he testified under oath concerning the land lease program to the USSR.

BTW, sodium fluoride was used in the concentration camps in Nazi Germany and in the gulags in the USSR to keep the inmates "docile" and thanks to "Operation Keelhaul" by USA.INC via General Eisenhower, those gulags in Siberia were overflowing with anti-communists that weren't all about the collective. Sodium Fluoride is an industrial waste by-product of producing aluminum. Some asswipe from ALCOA paid off some douche from the Mellon Institute to tout the benefits of this industrial waste being put into the water supply. Look at the back of the toothpaste tube that states that if a child swallows even as much as a bead of toothpastes that "Poison Control" should be notified. Is sodium fluoride good in small doses but dangerous in higher doses? How can it possibly be regulated?

You are always "wrong", Joe Blowhard, the card carrying, cock-sucking commie.....you are, at the very least, "consistent".

(snicker)

BTW, not exactly what one would call a "right wing" or conspiratorial site....

Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Reduces Children's IQ

 

[Dale Smith]

LOL!!! WHAAAAAT????? "It didn't happen"????? And you talk about "Holocaust denial"?!!! Stalin's holocaust was far worse than Hitler's holocaust. Both were horrific, but Stalin's claimed many more lives.

Yawn, guy no one is interested in your Bircher Propaganda...

What a chuckle. Uh, which among the sources I cited are "Bircher" sources? I take it you didn't bother to actually read any of them, right? Otherwise, you would have known that none of them are "Bircher" sources. One of them was a New York Times article.

Again, if Stalin killed so many people, why did the population of the USSR increase 30% under his reign? From 120MM in 1920 to 182 million in 1951. Even with about 20 million dying in World War II. Never mind, we know math isn't one of your strong points.

LOL!!! Oh, boy. You are the gift that just keeps on giving! Trigger alert: Logic and facts coming. Okay, you ready?

Did it ever occur to you that you can't trust Soviet statistics?! Did that thought every pop into your Communist-brainwashed mind? Did it occur to you that in order to try to cover up their years of mass murders, the Soviets would fiddle with their population statistics in the hope that useful idiots, or willing sympathizers, like you would gobble them up and said, "Gee, you see! The Soviets couldn't have killed all those millions of people!"

Now, are you going to deal with the evidence presented in the articles I cited that Stalin killed some 20 million people? Do you have any idea how many scholars--liberal and conservative alike--have discussed the evidence of the Soviet Holocaust? Do you know how many Soviet dissidents have written about the millions of Soviet subjects who were killed by Stalin and his thugs over the course of several decades?

Joe Blowhard, the card carrying commie also claimed that the people standing up for themselves in Tienanmen Square were "rabble rousers" that did not have the support of the people.