Joe B updated Democratic Field Rating (Progressives only, please)

[iamwhatiseem]

And once again you show the forum how much of a hack you are.
You just keep repeating the same cycle:

1) THis is my opinion.
2) Someone disagrees
3) Insult, dismiss and deflect
4) THis is my opinion

Awsome. Then you can stop bothering me until you actually have something substantive to add to the conversation, then.

There he goes again

 

[IM2]

And BTW - I'll answer the OP

Bernie Sanders - Sanders is a washed up full bore socialist. He has no chance in a national election today. His biggest fans don't even vote. The only reason he is leading is because everyone below is just that bad.

Peter Buttigeig - He is gay. And minorities won't turn out to vote for a gay man. Blacks especially are homophobic and violent to transexuals. Something Warren alluded to but wouldn't actually say it.

Joe Biden - He had no chance to start with. He has so many problems you could write a novel and only include half of them. He can barely cobble together a coherent sentence, has serious issues with young girls and was past his prime 20 years ago.

Liz Warren - She is fake in so many ways. She sold her opinions to the left hoping that could get her somewhere. It s hard to believe she wrote a quite conservative book not that long ago, that the media has completely blacked out. No one will even talk about it.
And the fake has nothing to do with her weird Indian claims that were bogus. She is a chameleon that forms her opinion on whatever the opinion is of the day.

Amy Klochabar - Gone. She doesn't matter. VP maybe, and perhaps in another election round, but not this one.

Mike Bloomberg - A billionaire. So he has the cash. But he also has a past that does not, at all, follow the leftist script. He has too many issues that both sides of the aisle won't like.

Below this line... who cares.
Tom Steyer -


Tulsi Gabbard -

Your two-minute hate aside, you really underestimate how much Trump is disliked. You are also assuming that the economy will keep chugging along even though there are signs of weakness.

I do think it will come down to Buttigeig, Sanders and Bloomberg, Bloomberg has some fence mending to do, but it's not impossible.

I do think Pete will consider leaving after super Tuesday. Bloomberg may run out of gas. He's got to debate sometimes. Sanders, Biden, Klobachar and Warren are the ones to look at in my view. Bloomberg doesn't have many more out of pocket comments to make on race before he's gone. And Pete, well his record is not good. Neither is Sanders. The reality of this entire thing happens when the 2 finalists go face to face. trump starts losing more votes when that happens. There have only been 2 primaries, we're not even close to the end of the first quarter. But republicans want to come in here making predictions.

So here's mine. trump loses in November. And he's working on his defeat right now by the things he is doing. The majority of Americans do not like a president that has decided to go after the people who did their jobs and who also have the right to oppose him as free citizens. This ain't Russia. People do not go to prison because they object to the president.

 

[Olde Europe]

What I will say in addition to your well thought out post, is that e need not let republicans dictate our choices after just 2 primaries. The winner will come and then trump must face his record and he will have to face an opponent that will tear his ass wide open in a debate. It's easy for trump to talk shit right now because democrats are in the process of determining a candidate. trump needs to stay out of the process like other incumbents have, but he knows that the only way he can win is keep people confused. That confusion ends when there is a democratic nominee. At that time, the end of trump will begin.

It so happens I find your take overly optimistic (not that this makes it wrong, though). You appear to believe the "debates" are going to be won on "record", or on anything to do with facts. Rather, it's going to be won on appeal - and not to the better angels of the audience - and on mobilization, with White identity being Trump's rallying cry. The "end of Trump" sounds nice, though. I'm in!

 

[bripat9643]

And BTW - I'll answer the OP

Bernie Sanders - Sanders is a washed up full bore socialist. He has no chance in a national election today. His biggest fans don't even vote. The only reason he is leading is because everyone below is just that bad.

Peter Buttigeig - He is gay. And minorities won't turn out to vote for a gay man. Blacks especially are homophobic and violent to transexuals. Something Warren alluded to but wouldn't actually say it.

Joe Biden - He had no chance to start with. He has so many problems you could write a novel and only include half of them. He can barely cobble together a coherent sentence, has serious issues with young girls and was past his prime 20 years ago.

Liz Warren - She is fake in so many ways. She sold her opinions to the left hoping that could get her somewhere. It s hard to believe she wrote a quite conservative book not that long ago, that the media has completely blacked out. No one will even talk about it.
And the fake has nothing to do with her weird Indian claims that were bogus. She is a chameleon that forms her opinion on whatever the opinion is of the day.

Amy Klochabar - Gone. She doesn't matter. VP maybe, and perhaps in another election round, but not this one.

Mike Bloomberg - A billionaire. So he has the cash. But he also has a past that does not, at all, follow the leftist script. He has too many issues that both sides of the aisle won't like.

Below this line... who cares.
Tom Steyer -


Tulsi Gabbard -

Your two-minute hate aside, you really underestimate how much Trump is disliked. You are also assuming that the economy will keep chugging along even though there are signs of weakness.

I do think it will come down to Buttigeig, Sanders and Bloomberg, Bloomberg has some fence mending to do, but it's not impossible.

I do think Pete will consider leaving after super Tuesday. Bloomberg may run out of gas. He's got to debate sometimes. Sanders, Biden, Klobachar and Warren are the ones to look at in my view. Bloomberg doesn't have many more out of pocket comments to make on race before he's gone. And Pete, well his record is not good. Neither is Sanders. The reality of this entire thing happens when the 2 finalists go face to face. trump starts losing more votes when that happens. There have only been 2 primaries, we're not even close to the end of the first quarter. But republicans want to come in here making predictions.

So here's mine. trump loses in November. And he's working on his defeat right now by the things he is doing. The majority of Americans do not like a president that has decided to go after the people who did their jobs and who also have the right to oppose him as free citizens. This ain't Russia. People do not go to prison because they object to the president.

Trump is going after criminals and traitors. The majority of Americans believe in justice for the coup plotters.

 

[IM2]

What I will say in addition to your well thought out post, is that e need not let republicans dictate our choices after just 2 primaries. The winner will come and then trump must face his record and he will have to face an opponent that will tear his ass wide open in a debate. It's easy for trump to talk shit right now because democrats are in the process of determining a candidate. trump needs to stay out of the process like other incumbents have, but he knows that the only way he can win is keep people confused. That confusion ends when there is a democratic nominee. At that time, the end of trump will begin.

It so happens I find your take overly optimistic (not that this makes it wrong, though). You appear to believe the "debates" are going to be won on "record", or on anything to do with facts. Rather, it's going to be won on appeal - and not to the better angels of the audience - and on mobilization, with White identity being Trump's rallying cry. The "end of Trump" sounds nice, though. I'm in!

And there are plenty of people here mobilized against trump. Once trumps lies are shredded by the democratic candidate, the sane independents and many of the anti trump republicans will break off from trump. He will have his 30 percent come hell or high water, but that last 21 percent is going to be a problem for him. Please remember that democrats have a couple of nuclear weapons they have not used yet which will be unleased on trump with a vengeance during the fall campaign.

 

[IM2]

And BTW - I'll answer the OP

Bernie Sanders - Sanders is a washed up full bore socialist. He has no chance in a national election today. His biggest fans don't even vote. The only reason he is leading is because everyone below is just that bad.

Peter Buttigeig - He is gay. And minorities won't turn out to vote for a gay man. Blacks especially are homophobic and violent to transexuals. Something Warren alluded to but wouldn't actually say it.

Joe Biden - He had no chance to start with. He has so many problems you could write a novel and only include half of them. He can barely cobble together a coherent sentence, has serious issues with young girls and was past his prime 20 years ago.

Liz Warren - She is fake in so many ways. She sold her opinions to the left hoping that could get her somewhere. It s hard to believe she wrote a quite conservative book not that long ago, that the media has completely blacked out. No one will even talk about it.
And the fake has nothing to do with her weird Indian claims that were bogus. She is a chameleon that forms her opinion on whatever the opinion is of the day.

Amy Klochabar - Gone. She doesn't matter. VP maybe, and perhaps in another election round, but not this one.

Mike Bloomberg - A billionaire. So he has the cash. But he also has a past that does not, at all, follow the leftist script. He has too many issues that both sides of the aisle won't like.

Below this line... who cares.
Tom Steyer -


Tulsi Gabbard -

Your two-minute hate aside, you really underestimate how much Trump is disliked. You are also assuming that the economy will keep chugging along even though there are signs of weakness.

I do think it will come down to Buttigeig, Sanders and Bloomberg, Bloomberg has some fence mending to do, but it's not impossible.

I do think Pete will consider leaving after super Tuesday. Bloomberg may run out of gas. He's got to debate sometimes. Sanders, Biden, Klobachar and Warren are the ones to look at in my view. Bloomberg doesn't have many more out of pocket comments to make on race before he's gone. And Pete, well his record is not good. Neither is Sanders. The reality of this entire thing happens when the 2 finalists go face to face. trump starts losing more votes when that happens. There have only been 2 primaries, we're not even close to the end of the first quarter. But republicans want to come in here making predictions.

So here's mine. trump loses in November. And he's working on his defeat right now by the things he is doing. The majority of Americans do not like a president that has decided to go after the people who did their jobs and who also have the right to oppose him as free citizens. This ain't Russia. People do not go to prison because they object to the president.

Trump is going after criminals and traitors. The majority of Americans believe in justice for the coup plotters.

The majority of Americans know that is not what trump is doing. The majority of Americans know there was no coup. Don't get your 30 percent fact free loons mistaken as the majority of Americans.

 

[Flash]

Bernie Sanders - Aging hippy Communist. Wants to make the US like Venezuela.

Peter Buttigeig - Queerboi

Joe Biden - Senile child molester with more baggage than Delta Airlines

Liz Warren - Lying Commie Injin

Amy Klochabar - Debbie Downer

Mike Bloomberg -. Mini Mike trying to buy the Democrat nomination

Tom Steyer - Dumbass Environmental Wacko

Tulsi Gabbard - Cute but confused about everything.

Trump landslide!

Right now, they all lead Trump in the polls... and that's with things as they are now.

An economic correction over the summer, Trump could be in lots of trouble.

...and you being a confused Moon Bat believe the polls, just like you believed them in 2016.

If you really believe that any of those asshole clowns can beat Trump then you have been smoking the wacky weed again.

 

[bripat9643]

What I will say in addition to your well thought out post, is that e need not let republicans dictate our choices after just 2 primaries. The winner will come and then trump must face his record and he will have to face an opponent that will tear his ass wide open in a debate. It's easy for trump to talk shit right now because democrats are in the process of determining a candidate. trump needs to stay out of the process like other incumbents have, but he knows that the only way he can win is keep people confused. That confusion ends when there is a democratic nominee. At that time, the end of trump will begin.

It so happens I find your take overly optimistic (not that this makes it wrong, though). You appear to believe the "debates" are going to be won on "record", or on anything to do with facts. Rather, it's going to be won on appeal - and not to the better angels of the audience - and on mobilization, with White identity being Trump's rallying cry. The "end of Trump" sounds nice, though. I'm in!

And there are plenty of people here mobilized against trump. Once trumps lies are shredded by the democratic candidate, the sane independents and many of the anti trump republicans will break off from trump. He will have his 30 percent come hell or high water, but that last 21 percent is going to be a problem for him.

ROFL! Precisely the opposite of what you predict is what will happen. That's been the case ever since Trump became a candidate.

 

[gipper]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

 

[IM2]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

 

[IM2]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

Your posts are very consistent. You show a clear pattern of consuming way too much MSM reporting. Try taking a step back.

Wring. I take in facts. And when you look at what trump is doing right now you see a president sliding towards dictatorship.

 

[Meathead]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

Don't worry about it. America isn't turning into an African shithole under Trump.

Your neighborhood is not representative of the country.

 

[gipper]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

Your posts are very consistent. You show a clear pattern of consuming way too much MSM reporting. Try taking a step back.

Wring. I take in facts. And when you look at what trump is doing right now you see a president sliding towards dictatorship.

You have been duped. The D Party you support has passed nearly all of Donnie’s agenda. They love his huge budgets, massive military spending, foreign interventions, etc. They are not opposing any of his political policies. Don’t you find that unusual?

 

[OldLady]

LOL, Joe
I love how well USMB'ers read.
Okay, all you Trump supporters, please sit this one out. You have 500 other threads where you can scream "They are all communists!!!"

I'm scrolling past all the neenerheads who are obviously illiterate and I will say this:
I'd vote for Biden, even though he's too old and his best chance was in 2016. He would have cleared Hillary by a mile and pounded Trump into the dust where he belongs.
I agree with you about Pete B. I'm not sure the US is ready.
I have never liked Liz.
Klobuchar is reasonable, but I don't like the idea of performing CPR on ObamaCare.
Sanders is the DNC's nightmare and while his support is certainly sending a strong message, we need to figure out just what that message is. Sure, he's likable, but he's far too socialist, "Democratic" or not. He is heavily supported by young people 18-29, who maybe don't know (or don't care) what his underlying message is. He is obsessed about rich people and redistributing wealth and taking half our paychecks to pay for stuff that maybe we don't need or want. He is extremely weak on anything but running the economy.
I'm a firm believer in safety net programs and universal healthcare, and I would accept more coming out of my paycheck to get that, but really, Sanders is way beyond that. That's just my opinion and I may be wrong. Correct me if so.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

It doesn’t matter. They are going to stay exactly where they are at, second place [emoji1627].


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[IM2]

Hey Joe, what do you think of the following statement made by Caitlin Johnstone.

“The problem with threatening the DNC with a Trump re-election if they install a right-wing candidate is that Democratic Party elites don't care if Trump gets re-elected; he supports all their favorite agendas and they keep their jobs regardless. It's not a real threat to them.”

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

Don't worry about it. America isn't turning into an African shithole under Trump.

Your neighborhood is not representative of the country.

There always has to be one.

 

[IM2]

I think it depends on what you think the real threat of Trump is.

The problem of Trump is not so much his policies, they all end up closer to the center, even Trump.

It's his disregard for the rule of law and democratic institutions... That's why he needs to go. Which is why I would be equally comfortable voting for Sanders or Bloomberg, who are on the two edges of your extreme.

Personally, I also think Bloomberg would probably be better at running the country, as he has a long history of working with diverse groups to get things done. Sanders, on the other hand, as Hillary said, has been in Congress for 40 years and has no friends there.

There is a problem here that you and other fanatical trump haters have. In your desperation to beat Donnie, you guys will gladly sell your souls to another corporatist warmonger. You do this under the delusional ignorant belief that this is the only way to beat Donnie. Not realizing the establishment is duping you once again.

trump is about to lose because America doesn't want a dictator as president.

Your posts are very consistent. You show a clear pattern of consuming way too much MSM reporting. Try taking a step back.

Wring. I take in facts. And when you look at what trump is doing right now you see a president sliding towards dictatorship.

You have been duped. The D Party you support has passed nearly all of Donnie’s agenda. They love his huge budgets, massive military spending, foreign interventions, etc. They are not opposing any of his political policies. Don’t you find that unusual?

Why is it that everybody else is duped but the trump supporter? I have not been duped by jack shit. But you have and that's why we are coming dangerously close to allowing a dictator to run our country

 

[Dana7360]

Was for Joe Biden, but now leaning MB. You are correct that Joe is in free fall and I don’t see any reversal of that trend. I thought I would never vote for a businessman for president given the atrocious track record of W. and Trump, but Bloomberg at least sounds reasonable and has the best chance of taking out the the Orange scourge.

Bloomberg ran NYC for a dozen years. He has experience with politics and experience with Trump

If Little Mike we’re running as an R, you would condemn him as a racist for his stop and frisk policy. Since he’s a D, all good.

Do you have any crediblity?

I would say that the person you're replying to is a former republican. Which means that the person is probably a moderate republican disgusted with the far right radical extremists taking over the Republican Party.

I don't think it's fair for you to attack him just because he has a different point of view.

I'm a life long Independent. I've voted a variety of parties through the decades.

Some Bloomberg supporters will fall back on the fact that the stop and frisk program was started under rudy who was a republican. So what? Bloomberg could have stopped it. Not expanded it.

The New Democratic mayor Bill De Blasio stopped it when he became mayor. It's not hard to do. Bloomberg expanded it. He caused a lot of harm to a lot of people. I saw one interview with an African American young man who said he was stopped so many times on the way to school, he stopped going to school. He said that the program made people prisoners in their own homes.

That's not what America is about. In my opinion, if you do something like stop and frisk, you aren't the right person for the job as president of all Americans.

Personally, I don't want another businessman billionaire as president. Government isn't business and business isn't government. The two should work together but never be merged.

 

[Indeependent]

MB may make good President as he will not allow one more Muslim to enter the US.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Joe Biden - He's pretty much in freefall right now. He could still pull a rally at South Carolina. Let's not forget, Bill Clinton lost both IA and NH, and still turned it around. His big strength remains that there's still a lot of good will for him in the African American community for being Obama's wingman for 8 years.

He will be right in the thick of this after SC

Liz Warren -

Probably turned out to be too smart for the room.

Oh yeah, that's the problem, too smart to be president, yeah, good call, I listen to her and am vividly reminded of why trump won