JK's 1st vp choice - are no democrats good enough?

[winston churchi]

Perhaps its me?

Jk asked a R Sen, McCain if he would consider to be his running mate. McCain declined the offer.

Isn't John Kerry basically telling the democratic party that , of all the democrats he could choose as his mate, he chooses someone from Bush's party....

Can this be his ruination?

What do democrats think of this?

What about his second choice? Will he dig through the treches to find one second best vp from his own party? Or will he continue to search for a running mate on Bush's side???

 

[Socrates]

If I were Kerry, I'd take McCain for my vp (if McCain had wanted the job) because that ticket would win the election.

I'm a Democrat, and it doesn't bother me at all that Kerry was interested in McCain. McCain is a good man and has integrity. To me it shows that Kerry is actually willing to reach accross party lines to move this country forward, something Bush said he would do ("I'm a unifier") but has not done at all.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by Socrates
If I were Kerry, I'd take McCain for my vp (if McCain had wanted the job) because that ticket would win the election.

I'm a Democrat, and it doesn't bother me at all that Kerry was interested in McCain. McCain is a good man and has integrity. To me it shows that Kerry is actually willing to reach accross party lines to move this country forward, something Bush said he would do ("I'm a unifier") but has not done at all.

I feel the same exact way about Zell Miller.

This says that Kerry knows his own party doesn't want him because nobody wants to go against Billary's wishes and take the vp spot. Listen the Clintons still run the Democratic party and they want Hillary to run in '08. Look for there to be a big nomination fight at the Demo convention with the Clintons running the show behind the scene.

Kerry/McCain wouldn't stand a chance in hell.

 

[green lantern]

edwards would be the best choice for kerry.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by Socrates
To me it shows that Kerry is actually willing to reach accross party lines to move this country forward, something Bush said he would do ("I'm a unifier") but has not done at all. [/B]

Now that is a load of crap. In 2001, all I ever saw Bush do was reach across the aisle to Democrats. He even invited the Kennedys over to the White House to watch the movie about the Cuban misslie crisis. How was his kindness rewarded? Judicial nominations filibustered, hate rhetoric unchecked and tacitly approved... Democrats hate Bush more passionately than they hated Reagan.

 

[Socrates]

Originally posted by OCA

Kerry/McCain wouldn't stand a chance in hell. [/B]

The evidence is against you. The polls show Kerry/McCain would win fairly easily if the election were today.

 

[Socrates]

Originally posted by gop_jeff
Now that is a load of crap. In 2001, all I ever saw Bush do was reach across the aisle to Democrats. He even invited the Kennedys over to the White House to watch the movie about the Cuban misslie crisis. How was his kindness rewarded? Judicial nominations filibustered, hate rhetoric unchecked and tacitly approved... Democrats hate Bush more passionately than they hated Reagan.

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It takes more that an invite to dinner to reach across party lines. You have to actually build a consensus. Can you name any legislation that Bush built a consensus on, prior to Sept 11?
Hell, he couldn't even keep all of the Republicans happy he was so far right (remember the senator from Vermont that left the party?).

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by Socrates
The evidence is against you. The polls show Kerry/McCain would win fairly easily if the election were today.

Nope, the 1st amendment hating McCain combined with the traitor Kerry would galvanize Repubs to vote in numbers never seen before. Big difference between Demos and Repubs, you guys actually believe polls.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by Socrates
Hell, he couldn't even keep all of the Republicans happy he was so far right (remember the senator from Vermont that left the party?).

Jumpin' Jim Jeffords? He is farther to the left than half the Democrats in the Senate, and was basically a holdover from the pre-Reagan revolution in which Republicans could still be liberal. You guys can have him.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Socrates
If I were Kerry, I'd take McCain for my vp (if McCain had wanted the job) because that ticket would win the election.

I'm a Democrat, and it doesn't bother me at all that Kerry was interested in McCain. McCain is a good man and has integrity. To me it shows that Kerry is actually willing to reach accross party lines to move this country forward, something Bush said he would do ("I'm a unifier") but has not done at all.

There's a difference between being a unifier and being someone who will allow the dems to jeopardize our national security to pacify their eurosocialist liberal cohorts.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by gop_jeff
Jumpin' Jim Jeffords? He is farther to the left than half the Democrats in the Senate, and was basically a holdover from the pre-Reagan revolution in which Republicans could still be liberal. You guys can have him.

I wonder how ol'Jimmy feels now that the Repubs are back in power and he's been relegated to some jerkwater no meaning committee somewhere? That guy was a joke.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by OCA
I wonder how ol'Jimmy feels now that the Repubs are back in power and he's been relegated to some jerkwater no meaning committee somewhere? That guy was a joke.

To quote Justin Timberlake, "cry me a river!"

 

[winston churchi]

I guess what I find disturbing is that, of all the democrats Jk could choose (and there are some choices) he choose a republican. So one can think he is reaching across party lines to win the election or else , as I do, there is no one good enough on the democratic side that could run as vp and help Jk win.

For Jk as with all , its about winning this election. So to me, he is snubbing his own party by crossing party lines. Sorry democrats, you haven't got any one good enough so I am going republican.

But then Kerry is not known for consistancy anyway....so I guess to most Kerry supporters, who cares right? A republican - OF WHOM HE REFERED TO WEEKS AGO AS BEING NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS - IS NOW THE BEST HE HAS!!!

 

[Palestinian Jew]

I thought everyone understood this, the reason Kerry would like to choose McCain is b/c a Demo/Repub ticket polls higher than a straight party ticket, so he wants McCain to help him win.

Of course McCain will never accept the nomination, he already said he won't and that he will vote for Bush. Imagine all the crap Kerry would take if he had a vp that didn't vote for him, but if McCain did vote for him, then Republicans would accuse him of flipflopping.

Its not really a snub. Everyone knows McCain and Kerry are very good friends and so it makes sense that he would ask him to be his vp.

There are plenty of good Democratic candidates, Edwards(who I think could have easily become president), Bob Grahm, and Lieberman to name a few.

 

[HGROKIT]

Originally posted by winston churchi
Isn't John Kerry basically telling the democratic party that , of all the democrats he could choose as his mate, he chooses someone from Bush's party....

No what he is saying is that he now realizes he does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected and therfore is willing to name a Republican as running mate as that is the only way he might have a chance.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by green lantern
edwards would be the best choice for kerry.

If Edwards would like to keep his career untainted, he'd be wise to stay as far away from kerry as possible.

 

[Annie]

DK, I agree with you. The only Democrat for president I ever voted for was, (please forgive me), Jimmy Carter. Arrgg, I was young. Yet I'm shocked that so many do not see what a future John Edwards may have and are excited to see him run as Veep. Kerry's issues will blow back on him as Johnson's did on Humphrey and Clinton's on Gore, not to mention Nixon's on Ford.

He would be well advised to stay away from this, especially in light of the McCain issue now.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Edwards was the one I was hoping for after clark showed himself to be unreliable. If Edwards keeps away from the fringe and flag of kerry, he'll move forward after the fallout.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by winston churchi
Perhaps its me?

Jk asked a R Sen, McCain if he would consider to be his running mate. McCain declined the offer.

Isn't John Kerry basically telling the democratic party that , of all the democrats he could choose as his mate, he chooses someone from Bush's party....

Can this be his ruination?

What do democrats think of this?

What about his second choice? Will he dig through the treches to find one second best vp from his own party? Or will he continue
to search for a running mate on Bush's side???

Think about it. Can you name any Democrats that are up and coming? that are good choices. The party is a party of old men and old tactics.

Oh and anyone who says Edwards is a good running mate for him they might want to think long and hard about him. He doesnt bring anything to the ticket. Him and Kerry dont get along. Edwards wont give him any power to bring the southern vote because hello Kerry beat him in the south. And heck even the people in Edwards home state of NC wont vote for him. Why else do you think he isnt running for reelection for senate there this year?

There is only one thing Edwards is good for. Retiring and making Senator Dole the senior senator from NC.

 

[winston churchi]

If I were a democrat, I would want Lieberman as the running mate...but honestly....not as second choice. If I were a democrat, I would have voted for Lieberman as I really thought he would be the best choice....I felt that if Bush were to loose to a D I would rather it be someone like Lieberman.

At any rate, Kerry selected his vp and was turned down as though he should be suprised. If Kerry knew what the hell he was doing and wanted a R he should have looked a bit harder under a pile of rocks....the fact that Cain is voting for Bush - should have been Kerrys first clue that this would not be the best choice for his vp.

The fact that Kerry said R were liars and cheats should have been the second clue that perhaps he should stay away from the very party he insults on national tv.

Kerry didn't do his homework - Suprise.....so you want this guy to run America huh?????