The Democrats’ Half-Hearted Move to the Center

[HikerGuy83]

Both nominees kept it hardcore.

A lot of Americans are not being represented.

Yes, for now.

The GOP nominated two "centrists"....and lost.

 

[task0778]

Trump is a disease. A disease caused by deep seated frustration with overbearing, meddlesome government.

If Democrats were serious in what they claim, if they truly believed that Trump, or MAGA in general, is an existential threat to the nation, they would have nominated a centrist candidate who could credibly address the concerns of rural white voters. But they didn't, and they won't, because they care more about "winning" the culture war.

True, although I would stipulate that both parties are a disease IMHO. But I do not see Trump doing as much damage as Harris or whoever the democrat nominee ends up being. For sure the democrats have no intention of moving more to the center, that is an unabashed lie.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Who's "my boy?"

who? Got feathers and sit in a tree

 

[MarcATL]

What did you think ?

That it wasn't about Trump ? Why did you ask about it.

Is Trump claiming to move to the middle ? If so, he is lying.

So is Harris. That was the article.

Trump was President for four years and never moved to the middle.

You had no problem w/that, or you would have made a comment about it like you are making about Kamala now.

Do you see how dishonest that is?

 

[dblack]

True, although I would stipulate that both parties are a disease IMHO. But I do not see Trump doing as much damage as Harris or whoever the democrat nominee ends up being. For sure the democrats have no intention of moving more to the center, that is an unabashed lie.

Yep. And it's unfortunate because, mostly, it's an artificial division driven by the two-party system and plurality voting.

My priorities have changed considerably in the last few years, especially for the Presidential election. How a candidate aligns with my political ideology has taken a back seat to good leadership. We need a candidate who will commit themselves to representing the entire country, and not just their side of the culture war.

The two party system has created division, or at least radically amplified it, where it needn't be. Most people agree on most things. But the partisans need a war, in order to scare people into taking their "side". It's a senseless "Punch-n-Judy" show, with the winner beating the loser over the head and the loser skulking away swearing revenge. It would be hilarious if it wasn't dragging the country into a hole.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Trump was President for four years and never moved to the middle.

I would never expect him to be.

You had no problem w/that, or you would have made a comment about it like you are making about Kamala now.

I don't recall him pretending to do so.

Do you see how dishonest that is?

That Hindenburg Harris is pretending to move to the middle, when in fact she is not, is very dishonest. So yes, I see it.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[HikerGuy83]

 

[HikerGuy83]

Arizona will go for Trump

 

[HikerGuy83]

 

[IDIOCRACY]

The Democrats’ Half-Hearted Move to the Center

They’re still pretty far away.

www.liberalpatriot.com

This is a great piece. It examines why this guy thinks Harris/Walz are lying (not his words....my words).

An example of what he sees:

(1) The “I take it back” strategy. Harris has a long record of taking unpopular, even toxic, stances on various policies that played well, at various times, with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party but are not remotely centrist. These include, but are hardly limited to, banning fracking, banning offshore drilling, backing a Green New Deal, mandatory gun buybacks, defunding the police and casting doubt on whether police really improve public safety, abolishing ICE, decriminalizing illegal border crossings, and abolishing private health insurance.

Do you, the median voter, see something there you don’t like? The Harris campaign says: no problem. Harris now takes it back! Whatever she said in the past that seems bonkers, she now enthusiastically disavows.

Of course, these position reversals raise many questions. Why did she have these positions in the first place? Why did she change those positions—what accounts for her conversion? And what is her position now on those contentious policy issues—besides not being for dumb position X? That leads to a second strategy in the moving-to-the-center campaign.

This is also stated:

(3) The “Hey, we’re working class too!” strategy. This appears to be part of the thinking behind the selection of Minnesota governor Tim Walz as Harris’s running mate, instead of Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro. Shapiro, of course, was not beloved of the progressive left and their campaign against him and for Walz apparently had an effect.

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So, Harris picks a mate based on pressure from progressives.

Kinda makes you wonder just what a jellow bowl she'll be if elected.

Shes radically left, period, thats it. Are v leftists prepared to admit she's picked up trumps ideas of things now, as talking points? She's a fraud, so is your party, everything about them..

 

[Lisa558]

Democrats have moved far left and moderates in the party have tolerated this.

And the Democrats who do not tolerate it get put on a terrorist watch list.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, for now.

The GOP nominated two "centrists"....and lost.

Trump is a centrist.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Trump is a centrist.

Did I say centrist ?

My mistake.

I meant: The GOP nominated two pussies and see where that got them.

 

[Lisa558]

Did I say centrist ?

My mistake.

I meant: The GOP nominated two pussies and see where that got them.

Yup. There’s only one person who has the balls to withstand all the shit that the Dems are throwing his way, and that person is Trump.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Yup. There’s only one person who has the balls to withstand all the shit that the Dems are throwing his way, and that person is Trump.

Well, Harris is good at making up, swimming and talking s**t.

She knows how to handle Donald Trump.

It's those d**n reporters she can't seem to overcome.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The same reporters who work for agencies that are truly interested in getting her elected.

It's becoming quite clear that we do have power elites in the country and it's time to get after them.