JoeB131
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How come you guys only scream "Class Warfare" when working folks fight back.
I didn't start the class war, but I aim to finish it.
Jim Webb, (D-VA), should be our next President.
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How come you guys only scream "Class Warfare" when working folks fight back.
I didn't start the class war, but I aim to finish it.
NYcarbineer
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I never get sick of seeing a RWnut trash a veteran when the marching orders require it.
martybegan
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Yes, from your couch. The armchair commando is in full effect.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
No, the way the "Founding Fathers" said to acheive change- through advocating in the public square.
Certainly better than the right wing gun nuts like yourself clinging to your guns and your bibles bitterly
Wildman
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>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<Well....he'd be a **** of a lot better than Hildabeast.
maybe so, but we have had enough ******* demoscum ******* up this country of patriots, that muslime son-of-a-***** in the WH now has done more harm than Bubba Cliton did when he allowed terrorists to destroy the WTC !!
Wildman
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Wildman
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deltex1
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Obabble fixed all that...what is there left to do?
Jim Webb 'gets it'. Here is an excellent op-ed he authored that appeared in the Wall Street Journal in 2006...
Past Featured Article
ELECTION 2006
Class Struggle
American workers have a chance to be heard.
by JIM WEBB
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:01 A.M. EST
The most important--and unfortunately the least debated--issue in politics today is our society's steady drift toward a class-based system, the likes of which we have not seen since the 19th century. America's top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. It is not unfair to say that they are literally living in a different country. Few among them send their children to public schools; fewer still send their loved ones to fight our wars. They own most of our stocks, making the stock market an unreliable indicator of the economic health of working people. The top 1% now takes in an astounding 16% of national income, up from 8% in 1980. The tax codes protect them, just as they protect corporate America, through a vast system of loopholes.
Incestuous corporate boards regularly approve compensation packages for chief executives and others that are out of logic's range. As this newspaper has reported, the average CEO of a sizeable corporation makes more than $10 million a year, while the minimum wage for workers amounts to about $10,000 a year, and has not been raised in nearly a decade. When I graduated from college in the 1960s, the average CEO made 20 times what the average worker made. Today, that CEO makes 400 times as much.
In the age of globalization and outsourcing, and with a vast underground labor pool from illegal immigration, the average American worker is seeing a different life and a troubling future. Trickle-down economics didn't happen. Despite the vaunted all-time highs of the stock market, wages and salaries are at all-time lows as a percentage of the national wealth. At the same time, medical costs have risen 73% in the last six years alone. Half of that increase comes from wage-earners' pockets rather than from insurance, and 47 million Americans have no medical insurance at all.
Manufacturing jobs are disappearing. Many earned pension programs have collapsed in the wake of corporate "reorganization." And workers' ability to negotiate their futures has been eviscerated by the twin threats of modern corporate America: If they complain too loudly, their jobs might either be outsourced overseas or given to illegal immigrants.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009246
WSJ link has expired...new link:
Jim Webb Class Struggle
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Yeah, there is no heaven, and if there were, that's not how the BIble says to get there.
The bible says you should give all your worldly goods to the poor.
Mac1958
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I like Webb, and I like him even more after learning he said this:
From a Yahoo! piece:
Go to any activist meeting or liberal dinner party, and chances are you will hear a pretty consistent narrative to explain this trend. Basically, it goes like this: White men, and especially Southern white men, are just inherently racist and afraid of social change, and so they’re easily manipulated by Republicans and have turned their backs on Obama. But that’s really OK, because the demographics of the country are rapidly shifting, and very soon there will be enough black and Latino voters — not to mention women of all races — to tip the balance of any national election into the Democratic column.
Webb finds this theory downright offensive. In his view, Democrats have focused so much of their rhetoric and their programs on racial minorities that they’ve basically forgotten about all those white, working-class voters who face some of the same economic hardships but feel like all the focus is on the poor.
“I think this is where Democrats screw up, you know?” Webb told me. “I think that they have kind of unwittingly used this group, white working males, as a whipping post for a lot of their policies. And then when they react, they say they’re being racist.”
Back in 2010, under a Wall Street Journal headline that referred to the “myth of white privilege,” Webb called for an end to federal affirmative action programs that aren’t need-based, saying they no longer helped African-Americans and only served to embitter white voters. More recently, including in our conversation, he has obliquely assailed “interest groups” that divide the parties by race.
He's not fond of the PC Police either.
.
I like Webb, and I like him even more after learning he said this:
From a Yahoo! piece:
Go to any activist meeting or liberal dinner party, and chances are you will hear a pretty consistent narrative to explain this trend. Basically, it goes like this: White men, and especially Southern white men, are just inherently racist and afraid of social change, and so they’re easily manipulated by Republicans and have turned their backs on Obama. But that’s really OK, because the demographics of the country are rapidly shifting, and very soon there will be enough black and Latino voters — not to mention women of all races — to tip the balance of any national election into the Democratic column.
Webb finds this theory downright offensive. In his view, Democrats have focused so much of their rhetoric and their programs on racial minorities that they’ve basically forgotten about all those white, working-class voters who face some of the same economic hardships but feel like all the focus is on the poor.
“I think this is where Democrats screw up, you know?” Webb told me. “I think that they have kind of unwittingly used this group, white working males, as a whipping post for a lot of their policies. And then when they react, they say they’re being racist.”
Back in 2010, under a Wall Street Journal headline that referred to the “myth of white privilege,” Webb called for an end to federal affirmative action programs that aren’t need-based, saying they no longer helped African-Americans and only served to embitter white voters. More recently, including in our conversation, he has obliquely assailed “interest groups” that divide the parties by race.
He's not fond of the PC Police either.
.
quorthon
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no thanks
jknowgood
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Hillary will be your next nominee, and Bush or Walker will be the next president. Obama has made sure of that.
Why is it for Democrats only having a military record counts if they have one and military record only counts for Democrats?
Bfgrn
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Jim Webb 'gets it'. Here is an excellent op-ed he authored that appeared in the Wall Street Journal in 2006...
Past Featured Article
ELECTION 2006
Class Struggle
American workers have a chance to be heard.
by JIM WEBB
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:01 A.M. EST
The most important--and unfortunately the least debated--issue in politics today is our society's steady drift toward a class-based system, the likes of which we have not seen since the 19th century. America's top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. It is not unfair to say that they are literally living in a different country. Few among them send their children to public schools; fewer still send their loved ones to fight our wars. They own most of our stocks, making the stock market an unreliable indicator of the economic health of working people. The top 1% now takes in an astounding 16% of national income, up from 8% in 1980. The tax codes protect them, just as they protect corporate America, through a vast system of loopholes.
Incestuous corporate boards regularly approve compensation packages for chief executives and others that are out of logic's range. As this newspaper has reported, the average CEO of a sizeable corporation makes more than $10 million a year, while the minimum wage for workers amounts to about $10,000 a year, and has not been raised in nearly a decade. When I graduated from college in the 1960s, the average CEO made 20 times what the average worker made. Today, that CEO makes 400 times as much.
In the age of globalization and outsourcing, and with a vast underground labor pool from illegal immigration, the average American worker is seeing a different life and a troubling future. Trickle-down economics didn't happen. Despite the vaunted all-time highs of the stock market, wages and salaries are at all-time lows as a percentage of the national wealth. At the same time, medical costs have risen 73% in the last six years alone. Half of that increase comes from wage-earners' pockets rather than from insurance, and 47 million Americans have no medical insurance at all.
Manufacturing jobs are disappearing. Many earned pension programs have collapsed in the wake of corporate "reorganization." And workers' ability to negotiate their futures has been eviscerated by the twin threats of modern corporate America: If they complain too loudly, their jobs might either be outsourced overseas or given to illegal immigrants.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009246
WSJ link has expired...new link:
Jim Webb Class Struggle
More of the usual class warfare bullshit, with the usual class warfare response, more taxes, more government control, less freedom, all done, of course, for the sake of "the people"
More of the usual mimics from the parrot class in America...
martybegan and friends
Snarky picture responses: When the poster doesn't have the intellect to post their own stuff.
I have more intellect in the tip of my tiny finger than you have in your whole body.
What don't you comprehend about the fact in the 1960s, the average CEO made 20 times what the average worker made. Today, that CEO makes 400 times as much?
Do you need more pictures?
JoeB131
Diamond Member
I really don't think the country is dumb enough to put a third Bush into office given what complete disasters the first two were and the second had to STEAL the election to get in.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Mostly because Republicans don't have particularly good military records.
Let's review, shall we.
Romney- Got a bullshit missionary exemption.
Limbaugh- Got an exemption for cyst on his ass.
Cheney- Four student Deferments and a marriage deferment.
Bush- National Guard Dodge
Quayle - National Guard dodge
jknowgood
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You elected Obama twice. Can't be more dumb than that.
Bfgrn
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I like Webb, and I like him even more after learning he said this:
From a Yahoo! piece:
Go to any activist meeting or liberal dinner party, and chances are you will hear a pretty consistent narrative to explain this trend. Basically, it goes like this: White men, and especially Southern white men, are just inherently racist and afraid of social change, and so they’re easily manipulated by Republicans and have turned their backs on Obama. But that’s really OK, because the demographics of the country are rapidly shifting, and very soon there will be enough black and Latino voters — not to mention women of all races — to tip the balance of any national election into the Democratic column.
Webb finds this theory downright offensive. In his view, Democrats have focused so much of their rhetoric and their programs on racial minorities that they’ve basically forgotten about all those white, working-class voters who face some of the same economic hardships but feel like all the focus is on the poor.
“I think this is where Democrats screw up, you know?” Webb told me. “I think that they have kind of unwittingly used this group, white working males, as a whipping post for a lot of their policies. And then when they react, they say they’re being racist.”
Back in 2010, under a Wall Street Journal headline that referred to the “myth of white privilege,” Webb called for an end to federal affirmative action programs that aren’t need-based, saying they no longer helped African-Americans and only served to embitter white voters. More recently, including in our conversation, he has obliquely assailed “interest groups” that divide the parties by race.
He's not fond of the PC Police either.
.
The one trick pony chirps...
The central element of all PC charges, is "the myth of the conservative victim." In a remarkable turnabout of historical narrative, conservatives managed to portray themselves as "victims of false charges of racism and sexism, victims of the repressive thought police, and victims of reverse discrimination"
The widespread public acceptance of the political correctness myth has become a powerful political tool for conservatives. It provides a way to dismiss and mock rather than refute claims based on race, class, gender, sexual orientation, or minority culture. Further, the attack on PC has been expanded to serve in the larger ideological war against the left, so that any statement of radical belief triggers the PC charge.
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Conservative correctness - RationalWiki
Political Junky
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Scott Walker's wife is 11 years older than he is.
He has shrapnel in his head, has had a non-descript Senate career and will be over 70 when next we inaugurate. No thanks.
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