I have read many, many articles published in +972 over the years. There's a thread running through.
I don't believe I have read any articles from IHR to have an opinion on their credibility. I have little interest in discussing Nazi Germany and Holocaust denial.
Nor do I think it is a coincidence. I simply think you have inverted the problem. The Jewish people would like to have a small corner of their homeland where they can be masters of their own fate, live according to their culture and values, and have political sovereignty. I do not believe there is anything inherently malicious or immoral about that wish. On the contrary, I believe that self-determination of distinct peoples is a human right. Yes, I apply the same standards to all peoples and place the right to self-determination over the right to territorial integrity (despite international law not quite doing the same).
The problem is when that human right to self-determination is prevented and fought against. To seek, and to seek violently, to prevent a peoples from pursuing or achieving self-determination is malicious and immoral. The Arabs have been, since before 1948, actively and violently trying to prevent Jewish self-determination. That is the problem.
We have a disagreement of facts, as well as of philosophy. The factual evidence I am aware of
claims that 72% of those killed in Gaza since the war began are men of fighting age. The facts also point to numerous errors in the Hamas figures, as well as those Hamas figures not accounting for: Hamas militant/combatant deaths; deaths from natural causes; deaths caused by rockets falling short into Gaza; civilians killed by Hamas. Nor does it consider that some women and some children hold roles that would fairly count them as combatants. If an adult woman is holding hostages in her home, she is a combatant. If a ten-year-old child plants an IED in the roadway, he is a combatant. (Though I still consider all children to be innocent as in not culpable).
The "mainly women and children" doesn't stand up to scrutiny and tends to be used as an emotional stone.
Yes, many people use that word. Widespread use does not transform falsehoods into facts. International humanitarian law is not a popularity contest. The word has a definitional meaning, and it is being used outside that meaning as demonization of the Jews.
I already mentioned that I am currently writing the obituary for and preparing for the funeral for an old friend so my time is currently limited.
Just as there are none so blind as those who will not see, I don't think that any credible source or any reality on the ground would shake your apparent contempt for Palestine's native residents.
What about their right to be "masters of their own fate"?
For 80 years, the same long tormented Palestinians have been suffering the longest and most brutal foreign funded genocide in history at the hands of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs infamous for bayonetting pregnant women in the abdomen and similar atrocities.
It is the height of hypocrisy to suggest that Nakba denial is any less offensive than Holocaust denial.
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Nor do I think it is a coincidence. I simply think you have inverted the problem. The Jewish people would like to have a small corner of their homeland where they can be masters of their own fate
Wrong answer.
You're conflating "Jews" with "Zionists" and not all Jews demand the slaughter and eviction of Palestine's native residents for their ever expanding "Greater Israel".
It shouldn't be a surprise that I feel it is you who has not only inverted the problem but chosen to blame victims of foreign Zionist occupation and ongoing genocide for resisting foreign invader / occupiers.
You continue to ignore the fact that in earlier Palestine, Jews comprised only about 4% - 6% (c. 1900) of the total population and the true homeland for Palestine's foreign Zionist invader / occupiers is actually Russia, Brooklyn NY and Europe.
Israel's ruling Zionists are no more connected to Palestine / Israel than the Eskimos are.
Many Jews even oppose the existence of a genocidal Zionist colony in their name imposed on native populations by foreign, Colonial powers.
You claim to apply "the same standards to all peoples" but are conspicuously mute when it comes to Palestine's native residents who simply want to remain "masters of their own fate."
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The "mainly women and children" doesn't stand up to scrutiny and tends to be used as an emotional stone.
I've already provided at least 5 credible sources confirming the fact that IDF not only kills mostly women and children but targets children.
Below are three more and countless similar credible sources say the same thing.
Of course the right wing Jerusalem Post opinion piece is going to deny IDF's targeting of children but the majority of the planet knows better.
1. "Israel’s war on Gaza is deliberately targeting children – new UN report"
Children represent the future. In Gaza that future is being snuffed out.
theconversation.com
2. "MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAELI MILITARY THAN ANY OTHER RECENT CONFLICT IN A SINGLE YEAR"
www.oxfam.org.uk
3. "Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children"
Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children
EXCERPT "A retired surgeon who volunteered at a hospital in Gaza has told MPs that
Israeli drones would target children who were lying injured after bombings." CONTINUED
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Yes, many people use that word.
No, not "many" but
most of the planet condemns the long term Zionist genocide.
There is no other word for what foreign Zionist invader / occupiers have been doing for the last 80 years and attempting to deny or obfuscate that reality with the opinions of a tiny minority is imply dishonest and / or naive.
4. "Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime"
"When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes."
Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime
When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes.
www.thenation.com
EXCERPT "It has taken the Jewish state’s savagery to break decades of silence about its history of
crimes against humanity. US military historian Robert Pape
has called the onslaught against Gaza “one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history.”
Former UN assistant secretary general for human rights Andrew Gilmour
has said that we are witnessing “probably the highest kill rate of any military…since the Rwandan genocide of 1994.” CONTINUED
5. "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"
Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.
truthout.org
EXCERPT "Though U.S. officials have been pushing pro-Israel messages through the media relentlessly, the Gallup poll suggests that this
messaging is failing to have its desired effect among the public, and that anti-Zionist advocates’ messages are instead breaking through." CONTINUED
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The reason that descriptions of Israeli atrocities sound "demonic" it's for the simple reason that no other word better describes what Israel's right wing extremists are doing.
I believe that if you had ever seen conditions in any war torn 3rd World countries, spent time in the Middle East, studied the region for 60 years and spent time in and around Palestinian refugee camps perhaps then you would oppose the slaughter of people you've never met and been programmed to hate via pro Israel MSM.
I simply can't believe that any rational, objective and informed person could support the misery inflicted on Palestine's long tormented native residents.
Thanks,
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therealnews.com
