Jews Killing Gaza Christians

[Shusha]

You're conflating "Jews" with "Zionists" and not all Jews demand the slaughter and eviction of Palestine's native residents for their ever expanding "Greater Israel".

The terms "Zionist" and "Zionism" have long lost their usefulness and have become slurs and attempts by those with antisemitic tendencies to hide or deny their irrational beliefs.

You claim to define "Zionist" as "those who demand the slaughter and eviction" of Arabs from Israel/Palestine. You will find no such thing exists, as no Jews "demand the slaughter and eviction" of Arabs, as a collective.

I do not believe you define "Zionist" by those criteria, though, given some of the other claims you have made which I will go into more detail below. You define "Zionist" as "those who uphold the moral (and/or legal) right of the Jewish people to self-determination, including sovereignty and statehood, in their indigenous, historical, and cultural homeland."

If so, great. I define it in that way as well, as do most Jews in the world. What I don't understand about the beliefs of those who use "Zionist" as a slur, is why the aspiration to self-determination is evil, malicious, or harmful? The Arab Palestinians aspire to the same thing.

Perhaps we could come together on a definition of the terms.

Israel's ruling Zionists are no more connected to Palestine / Israel than the Eskimos are.

Interesting claim. I was not aware that the Inuit build their houses of prayer/worship oriented towards Jerusalem. Nor that they follow seasonal holidays according to the seasons of Israel. Nor that they pray, "Next year in Jerusalem". Nor that they mourn the destruction of the Temple. Nor that they speak an ancient language which originated in that territory. Just as a few small examples, of course.

You claim to apply "the same standards to all peoples" but are conspicuously mute when it comes to Palestine's native residents who simply want to remain "masters of their own fate."

Hardly mute. I've been accused of many things over the years, but mute is laughably absent from my numerous flaws. I have consistently supported the right to Arab self-determination for a second and third state in the territory of Mandate Palestine. (Well, I did until October 7).

The Arabs of Gaza were masters of their own fate in 2005. They made their choices.

I believe that if you had ever seen conditions in any war torn 3rd World countries, spent time in the Middle East, studied the region for 60 years and spent time in and around Palestinian refugee camps perhaps then you would oppose the slaughter of people you've never met and been programmed to hate via pro Israel MSM.

You make assumptions in this paragraph you do not have the knowledge about me to make. You have no idea what my relationships are with either Israelis or Palestinians. It is odd for you to both suspect that I am Israeli and now claim that I've never met those whose lives are intimately affected by the conflict.

I simply can't believe that any rational, objective and informed person could support the misery inflicted on Palestine's long tormented native residents.

Of course, I don't support the misery inflicted on the Arabs. I simply properly assign the cause of the misery to be Hamas and the citizens of Gaza who support and assist them.

 

[Shusha]

I've already provided at least 5 credible sources confirming the fact that IDF not only kills mostly women and children but targets children.
Below are three more and countless similar credible sources say the same thing.

We definitely have some differing opinions on what constitutes a credible source.

Things I don't consider credible sources.:

• opinion pieces
• testimony of a single individual
• polls of uninformed individuals
• conclusions drawn from inadequate information
• intentional falsehoods

Things I do consider credible sources:

• presentation of factual evidence
• expert testimony

 

[Grau]

There's no Christian run hospitals in gaza that you idiot... There probably only a couple hundred Christians left there. Christians are being slaughtered in Syria, Africa , they've been driven out of Iraq ,Iran, they've been persecuted in Egypt and you're talking about Christians in Gaza of which there are hardly any left there ...you stupid f***

The major difference is that Israeli lobbies manage to extract $ Trillions from Americans to pay for Zionist genocide while Syria, Iran etc do not.

As an occasional Christian, I spent 10 - 11 months walking and hitch hiking through out the Islamic Middle East and experienced primarily kindness and generosity from my multiple Muslim hosts who gave me rides, food and shelter from sand storms.

I'm still alive in spite of "news" from pro Israel MSM and Hollywood which has done a wonderful job of demonizing Muslims for those gullible enough to believe them.

Go see for yourself.

 

[Jroc]

I already mentioned that I am currently writing the obituary for and preparing for the funeral for an old friend so my time is currently limited.

Just as there are none so blind as those who will not see, I don't think that any credible source or any reality on the ground would shake your apparent contempt for Palestine's native residents.

What about their right to be "masters of their own fate"?

For 80 years, the same long tormented Palestinians have been suffering the longest and most brutal foreign funded genocide in history at the hands of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs infamous for bayonetting pregnant women in the abdomen and similar atrocities.

It is the height of hypocrisy to suggest that Nakba denial is any less offensive than Holocaust denial.

Re:


Wrong answer.
You're conflating "Jews" with "Zionists" and not all Jews demand the slaughter and eviction of Palestine's native residents for their ever expanding "Greater Israel".

It shouldn't be a surprise that I feel it is you who has not only inverted the problem but chosen to blame victims of foreign Zionist occupation and ongoing genocide for resisting foreign invader / occupiers.

You continue to ignore the fact that in earlier Palestine, Jews comprised only about 4% - 6% (c. 1900) of the total population and the true homeland for Palestine's foreign Zionist invader / occupiers is actually Russia, Brooklyn NY and Europe.

Israel's ruling Zionists are no more connected to Palestine / Israel than the Eskimos are.

Many Jews even oppose the existence of a genocidal Zionist colony in their name imposed on native populations by foreign, Colonial powers.

You claim to apply "the same standards to all peoples" but are conspicuously mute when it comes to Palestine's native residents who simply want to remain "masters of their own fate."

Re:

I've already provided at least 5 credible sources confirming the fact that IDF not only kills mostly women and children but targets children.
Below are three more and countless similar credible sources say the same thing.

Of course the right wing Jerusalem Post opinion piece is going to deny IDF's targeting of children but the majority of the planet knows better.


1. "Israel’s war on Gaza is deliberately targeting children – new UN report"

Israel’s war on Gaza is deliberately targeting children – new UN report

Children represent the future. In Gaza that future is being snuffed out.

theconversation.com

2. "MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAELI MILITARY THAN ANY OTHER RECENT CONFLICT IN A SINGLE YEAR"

Oxfam GB | More women and children killed in Gaza by Israeli military than any other recent conflict in a single year

www.oxfam.org.uk

3. "Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children"
Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children

EXCERPT "A retired surgeon who volunteered at a hospital in Gaza has told MPs that Israeli drones would target children who were lying injured after bombings." CONTINUED

Re:


No, not "many" but most of the planet condemns the long term Zionist genocide.
There is no other word for what foreign Zionist invader / occupiers have been doing for the last 80 years and attempting to deny or obfuscate that reality with the opinions of a tiny minority is imply dishonest and / or naive.


4. "Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime"

"When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes."

Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime

Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime

When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes.

www.thenation.com

EXCERPT "It has taken the Jewish state’s savagery to break decades of silence about its history of crimes against humanity. US military historian Robert Pape has called the onslaught against Gaza “one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history.”

Former UN assistant secretary general for human rights Andrew Gilmour has said that we are witnessing “probably the highest kill rate of any military…since the Rwandan genocide of 1994.” CONTINUED


5. "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"

The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds

Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.

truthout.org

EXCERPT "Though U.S. officials have been pushing pro-Israel messages through the media relentlessly, the Gallup poll suggests that this messaging is failing to have its desired effect among the public, and that anti-Zionist advocates’ messages are instead breaking through." CONTINUED
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The reason that descriptions of Israeli atrocities sound "demonic" it's for the simple reason that no other word better describes what Israel's right wing extremists are doing.

I believe that if you had ever seen conditions in any war torn 3rd World countries, spent time in the Middle East, studied the region for 60 years and spent time in and around Palestinian refugee camps perhaps then you would oppose the slaughter of people you've never met and been programmed to hate via pro Israel MSM.

I simply can't believe that any rational, objective and informed person could support the misery inflicted on Palestine's long tormented native residents.

Thanks,

Bought paid nutjob islamist piece of s*the Jews were targeted way before 1948 you f* fraud.. all those Arab countries are made up by the Europeans. There is no, nor has there ever been a country called Palestine... You piece of shit. Israel takes additional casualties to keep from killing the innocent the best they can otherwise they could just carpet bomb the entire place the Hamas terrorist scum hide behind women and children like the cowards they are...you Islamic scum piece of s

 

[Lisa558]

Bought paid nutjob islamist piece of s*the Jews were targeted way before 1948 you f* fraud.. all those Arab countries are made up by the Europeans there is no, nor has there ever been a country called Palestine... You piece of shit. Israel takes additional casualties to keep from killing innocent best they can otherwise they could just carpet bomb the entire place an he Hamas terrorist scum hide behind women and children like the cowards they are...you Islamic scum piece of s

I can’t stand how antisemitic the mods have allowed this site to become (after announcing last summer that this was not a hate site and there would be a low tolerance for antisemitism).

They dropped the race subforum because it was hard to “keep it clean,” but they allow all this shit against Jews. They even allow sig lines that praise Hitler and celebrate the Zyklon gas used to exterminate Jews.

 

[Grau]

I can’t stand how antisemitic the mods have allowed this site to become (after announcing last summer that this was not a hate site and there would be a low tolerance for antisemitism).

They dropped the race subforum because it was hard to “keep it clean,” but they allow all this shit against Jews. They even allow sig lines that praise Hitler and celebrate the Zyklon gas used to exterminate Jews.

More whining and hogwash from our snarky little Ziono-bot.

You have made the already grossly overused epithet, "anti Semite" absolutely meaningless.

If everyone is an anti Semite as you claim then no one is an anti Semite.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I love it when cowardly, little Zionist shills only insult brighter individuals anonymously and from great distances.

Get lost, punk...

You're just a whiney twat.

 

[Roudy]

I already mentioned that I am currently writing the obituary for and preparing for the funeral for an old friend so my time is currently limited.

Just as there are none so blind as those who will not see, I don't think that any credible source or any reality on the ground would shake your apparent contempt for Palestine's native residents.

What about their right to be "masters of their own fate"?

For 80 years, the same long tormented Palestinians have been suffering the longest and most brutal foreign funded genocide in history at the hands of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs infamous for bayonetting pregnant women in the abdomen and similar atrocities.

It is the height of hypocrisy to suggest that Nakba denial is any less offensive than Holocaust denial.

Re:


Wrong answer.
You're conflating "Jews" with "Zionists" and not all Jews demand the slaughter and eviction of Palestine's native residents for their ever expanding "Greater Israel".

It shouldn't be a surprise that I feel it is you who has not only inverted the problem but chosen to blame victims of foreign Zionist occupation and ongoing genocide for resisting foreign invader / occupiers.

You continue to ignore the fact that in earlier Palestine, Jews comprised only about 4% - 6% (c. 1900) of the total population and the true homeland for Palestine's foreign Zionist invader / occupiers is actually Russia, Brooklyn NY and Europe.

Israel's ruling Zionists are no more connected to Palestine / Israel than the Eskimos are.

Many Jews even oppose the existence of a genocidal Zionist colony in their name imposed on native populations by foreign, Colonial powers.

You claim to apply "the same standards to all peoples" but are conspicuously mute when it comes to Palestine's native residents who simply want to remain "masters of their own fate."

Re:

I've already provided at least 5 credible sources confirming the fact that IDF not only kills mostly women and children but targets children.
Below are three more and countless similar credible sources say the same thing.

Of course the right wing Jerusalem Post opinion piece is going to deny IDF's targeting of children but the majority of the planet knows better.


1. "Israel’s war on Gaza is deliberately targeting children – new UN report"

Israel’s war on Gaza is deliberately targeting children – new UN report

Children represent the future. In Gaza that future is being snuffed out.

theconversation.com

2. "MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAELI MILITARY THAN ANY OTHER RECENT CONFLICT IN A SINGLE YEAR"

Oxfam GB | More women and children killed in Gaza by Israeli military than any other recent conflict in a single year

www.oxfam.org.uk

3. "Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children"
Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children

EXCERPT "A retired surgeon who volunteered at a hospital in Gaza has told MPs that Israeli drones would target children who were lying injured after bombings." CONTINUED

Re:


No, not "many" but most of the planet condemns the long term Zionist genocide.
There is no other word for what foreign Zionist invader / occupiers have been doing for the last 80 years and attempting to deny or obfuscate that reality with the opinions of a tiny minority is imply dishonest and / or naive.


4. "Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime"

"When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes."

Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime

Israel’s Genocide in Gaza Is a World Historical Crime

When Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis, the world turned away. Now, the world has awakened to Israel’s crimes.

www.thenation.com

EXCERPT "It has taken the Jewish state’s savagery to break decades of silence about its history of crimes against humanity. US military historian Robert Pape has called the onslaught against Gaza “one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history.”

Former UN assistant secretary general for human rights Andrew Gilmour has said that we are witnessing “probably the highest kill rate of any military…since the Rwandan genocide of 1994.” CONTINUED


5. "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"

The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds

Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.

truthout.org

EXCERPT "Though U.S. officials have been pushing pro-Israel messages through the media relentlessly, the Gallup poll suggests that this messaging is failing to have its desired effect among the public, and that anti-Zionist advocates’ messages are instead breaking through." CONTINUED
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The reason that descriptions of Israeli atrocities sound "demonic" it's for the simple reason that no other word better describes what Israel's right wing extremists are doing.

I believe that if you had ever seen conditions in any war torn 3rd World countries, spent time in the Middle East, studied the region for 60 years and spent time in and around Palestinian refugee camps perhaps then you would oppose the slaughter of people you've never met and been programmed to hate via pro Israel MSM.

I simply can't believe that any rational, objective and informed person could support the misery inflicted on Palestine's long tormented native residents.

Thanks,

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