Zone1 Jews do understand prophecy.

[Woodznutz]

"Operation Rising Lion" comes directly from Genesis 49:9.

"Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?"

 

[1srelluc]

Don't get me wrong, I love to see Iranians deaded but Israel is really starting to make my ass tired....I can almost understand why nobody likes them.

 

[rosends]

"Operation Rising Lion" comes directly from Genesis 49:9.

"Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?"

actually, it comes from Numbers 23:24

 

[Moonglow]

"Operation Rising Lion" comes directly from Genesis 49:9.

"Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?"

 

[Woodznutz]

actually, it comes from Numbers 23:24

Numbers 23:24 refers to Israel generally, while Genesis 49:9 refers to Judah specifically, and is a reference to the latter-day Jews/Judah.

However, the 'aroused lion', called the 'rampant lion' as well as the lion at rest or 'couchant' lion is a long-standing symbol of the British Empire, the descendants of the northern kingdom of Israel.

 

[rosends]

Numbers 23:24 refers to Israel generally, while Genesis 49:9 refers to Judah specifically, and is a reference to the latter-day Jews/Judah.

However, the 'aroused lion', called the 'rampant lion' as well as the lion at rest or 'couchant' lion is a long-standing symbol of the British Empire, the descendants of the northern kingdom of Israel.

except that the actual words for the name of the operation are found in Numbers, not Genesis.

 

[Woodznutz]

except that the actual words for the name of the operation are found in Numbers, not Genesis.

I understand where you and Jewish scholars on the subject are coming from, and you and they are wrong. The insinuation is that all Israelites are Jews. This has and still does lead to confusion and ignorance.

 

[rosends]

I understand where you and Jewish scholars on the subject are coming from, and you and they are wrong. The insinuation is that all Israelites are Jews. This has and still does lead to confusion and ignorance.

I understand that you don't know Hebrew and don't like being shown you are wrong, but the facts are what they are. Simply trying to link the name to any instance of the word "lion" and draw conclusions from that is silly. The American operation was "midnight hammer" but I wouldn't connect it to MC Hammer simply because they share a word.

 

[norwegen]

Neither of these Bible verses is in reference to Iran, Judah is ancient history and knew nothing of any British empire, and Balak and Balaam were not even Israelites.

Whatever inspiration the Israelis want to draw from an ancient foreign text is their business; even the Old Testament can be inspiring in some ways. But inspiration would be all they get from it.

 

[Woodznutz]

I understand that you don't know Hebrew and don't like being shown you are wrong, but the facts are what they are. Simply trying to link the name to any instance of the word "lion" and draw conclusions from that is silly. The American operation was "midnight hammer" but I wouldn't connect it to MC Hammer simply because they share a word.

Context is everything. The example in Numbers was a general statement about the nation of Israel. The prophecy in Genesis is specific to the Jews and the time frame is the latter days. If the Israeli's are referring to Numbers that's ok, but as I said, they are insinuating that all Israelites are/were Jews.

 

[rosends]

Context is everything. The example in Numbers was a general statement about the nation of Israel. The prophecy in Genesis is specific to the Jews and the time frame is the latter days.

But that is irrelevant. The phrase used for the Israeli mission was taken directly from Numbers. It is 2 words long and those two words appear in Numbers. One word appears in many other places but why look elsewhere when the clear source is Numbers?

 

[Woodznutz]

But that is irrelevant. The phrase used for the Israeli mission was taken directly from Numbers. It is 2 words long and those two words appear in Numbers. One word appears in many other places but why look elsewhere when the clear source is Numbers?

If the Israeli's are referring to Numbers that's ok, but as I said, they are insinuating that all Israelites are/were Jews.

Also, the Israelites in the days of Numbers were young lions. Today's Jews are old lions, as Genesis 49 states.

 

[rosends]

If the Israeli's are referring to Numbers that's ok, but as I said, they are insinuating that all Israelites are/were Jews.

Also, the Israelites in the days of Numbers were young lions. Today's Jews are old lions, as Genesis 49 states.

the name of the operation is the name of the operation. Its source is its source. You can try to decide that things mean something different in order to satisfy something you want to find. It is just wrong.

 

[Woodznutz]

the name of the operation is the name of the operation. Its source is its source. You can try to decide that things mean something different in order to satisfy something you want to find. It is just wrong.

I'm just saying that Genesis is the better choice from an objective point of view. Absent Genesis Numbers is fine.

 

[rosends]

I'm just saying that Genesis is the better choice from an objective point of view. Absent Genesis Numbers is fine.

It isn't a choice.

 

[Woodznutz]

It isn't a choice.

Then back we go to insinuation. Note that this war hasn't yet brought "fire" to the other Israelite nations. See Ezekiel 5.

 

[rosends]

Then back we go to insinuation. Note that this war hasn't yet brought "fire" to the other Israelite nations. See Ezekiel 5.

Are you starting by assuming that the recent hostilities are the function of biblical prophecy?

 

[Woodznutz]

Are you starting by assuming that the recent hostilities are the function of biblical prophecy?

They are likely a strong preview. This is the closest the U.S. has come to 'joining' with Israel in war. The prophecy in Ezekiel involves all or most of the descendant nations of Israel, the Anglo countries.