Jesus Christ Is Baal

[HaShev]

So Paul changed from Saul the jewish nationalist, to Paul the Jewish Imperialist?

Paul was also a converged image of a man hence the changing of his name. His accounts match that of Apollonius of Tyana called Pol who lived in Tarsus, went to Syria,etc..In acts Saul supposedly met Sergius Paulus called Paul who's friend was a "maggis" (alymas) called Bar(son)Jesus who Saul called the son of the devil.
Obviously Paul is not Saul but to defeat Saul and convert Jews Rome simply makes Saul Paul as a tactic to swallow your enemies.

 

[HaShev]

You are failing in selling your false Messiahship, Ha Shev.

Put your money where your mouth is and build the Temple (Mikdash) in my name and find out for yourself if you get to gloat or join Hobelim on temple mount cleaning duty using only a toothbrush, one of those small ones used for gums.

 

[shimon]

Rome was the original " Fritos bandeto" Going ahhhhhh yaaaaa yaaaa yaaaa I am the bandeto in Jesus name.......Aaahhhh yaaaaa yaaaaa.... They even dressed up their bandit Jesus but instead of a sombrero and a moustache they created an image they could sell to everyone ... Yup they ripped off the Baal story and gave it their own slant to bring in all the pagan in the area they turned Mary into the queen of heaven and Jesus as her son paralleling all known pagan lore and topped it off with a sprinkling of Jewish lore to con as many as they could... It is a true confidence scam esp after all the known players and people had died off who could expose them.... Yup it is amazing how long it has lasted and how many it has fooled but then aren't some known truly as " fools for Christ".....

 

[OZman]

braham was a turk , the imaginary Abraham I mean. There was no tribe of Judah, its all a story.
Do you ever wonder why we have 12 months and zodiac signs, most of the bible is astro theology.

persia & Creation of Judaism; Book 2. How Persia Created Judaism - The Glory of God in The East - (CAIS)

 

[HaShev]

Actually Persia is more the influence in Christianity through the myth of Mithra which they also borrowed, even the temples they reused and left the mithraic cross at their altar.
This is why the son of perdition (Lucifer) is said to be the "Created image of a man" who walked the garden of eden (ancient Persia).
Jesus who fell to the pit(perdition) by the hands of Rome (the sea)for claiming to be a god, image walked the garden (was from Persia), would be called
anointed(christ)
cherub(guardian=Nazarene)
and deemed perfect (sinless) until we saw the iniquities in the created image.
-Ezekiel 28

Some might argue that Baal also was from the region where the rivers meet to form the cross (sign of death) in the garden.

 

[shimon]

The other point is that people forget that it was the Babylonian empire that came first and conquered Israel some 2500 years ago...It was they that dispersed Israel to this area and destroyed the temple .it was only later that thePersians and Medes conquered Babylon . Until then What was known as the Persians was a small area consisting of a few city states so it is far fetched that they had a great influence until they had their own empire...There are some that teach that these groups were descended from Israelite tribes such as Gad and that it was Judaism that spread to this area after the dispersal of Israel after all the Israelites had been in their land for some time before their dispersal....Regardless I am sure there was plenty of borrowing going on from each other but it was Christianity or should I say Rome that pushed all these groups together to further their control over all the diverse people they controlled and Christianity gave them that opportunity...

 

[irosie91]

Most likely, they say he was a jew.

Well there you go, you just answered the great question, why would they mask Baal as a Jewish savior figure?
Because Jews knew not to worship the Baal scam or be taken by it's priests harvest scam. They needed a face that converted the revolters of Romes authority with the shared mythologies to draw all cultures into their 1 world religion where they controlled the income tithes which masked the actuality that it was a tax without insurrection.

So Paul changed from Saul the jewish nationalist, to Paul the Jewish Imperialist?

Paul was not exactly a jew------he was a convert-----IMO---he is unknowable----
HOWEVER Hashev touched upon an issue that lots of people fail to recognize which is------the actual agenda of rome which was WORLD WIDE IMPERIALISM-----and IMPOSITION OF THE "CULTURE" OF ROME-----with its rules AND RELIGION upon all of the world---------the conquered were to become tributary nations just as Judea was made into a tributary nation-------but too damned
RESISTENT. ------Rome was not unique in its imperialism even then-----and the same concept was adopted by Muhummad and ----it was the concept of the "HOLY" roman empire and Adolf adopted it with enthusiasm. Today----Iran is moving in the same direction

 

[irosie91]

Most likely, they say he was a jew.

Well there you go, you just answered the great question, why would they mask Baal as a Jewish savior figure?
Because Jews knew not to worship the Baal scam or be taken by it's priests harvest scam. They needed a face that converted the revolters of Romes authority with the shared mythologies to draw all cultures into their 1 world religion where they controlled the income tithes which masked the actuality that it was a tax without insurrection.

So Paul changed from Saul the jewish nationalist, to Paul the Jewish Imperialist?

BTW from whence cometh your perception that Saul was a "jewish nationalist" at some time in his life. I do not remember an actual account of Paul's PRIOR life
other than he called himself a jew

 

[irosie91]

Ha Shev, the false messiah, is fun to read.

Penelope, who has not a clue on all of this, is even better to read.

Penelope is an excellent source

Sure.

Jake----read Penelope-----she transmits stuff WHOLE---from the islamo Nazi
propaganda sites

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are failing in selling your false Messiahship, Ha Shev.

Put your money where your mouth is and build the Temple (Mikdash) in my name and find out for yourself if you get to gloat or join Hobelim on temple mount cleaning duty using only a toothbrush, one of those small ones used for gums.

Build it yourself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ha Shev, the false messiah, is fun to read.

Penelope, who has not a clue on all of this, is even better to read.

Penelope is an excellent source

Sure.

Jake----read Penelope-----she transmits stuff WHOLE---from the islamo Nazi
propaganda sites

And? Jihadism is bad? I agree.

 

[hadit]

Baal is the father of the
morning star-rev 22:16.
They say father and son are one in the same as part of a trinity.
This is because they are the same mythology given a new image mask and name for the same harvest scam.
The Bel (Baal) myth does in
fact have mythical elements including death and resurrection which parallel the Jesus myth and thus are forerunners of mythical elements in the Jesus myth.
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum, referred to as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet.
Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.

Ishtar (easter)(Isis in other cultures) is the Mother of the Morning Star. Isis is the wife of Baal.
In the Canaanite rites of Athtar the fierce the Dying god mythology states the dying son called morning star, surpasses
his father Baal on the throne.

The dying god resurrection story borrowed from Baal's resurrection= serpents promise of eternal life is the way the adversary gets what he wants, popular devotion to the dying god that they are benefactors of through being the religious authority and thus collect taxes=tithes without insurrection.
Baal had to die and resurrect to surpass his father Dagon on the throne when Dagon(the fishman god) idol lost his flavor and the cycle occured again when Baal was being rejected & opposed.

The radiant sun or circle behind the cross
is a Baal cross. Ironically the ring worn by the Popes is the fishman god ring (Dagon) that they are kissing.
He was the Father of Baal, who is the father of the morning star-rev 22:16.
This is why the Ishtar (easter) myth is that she births a giant egg by the river bed in which a fish is hatched called
the morning star. This is why they wear the fish head hat called Mitre and have scales on their robes or trim.
Jesus is Baal as Baal is Dagon.
The fishers of men hook line and sinker.

Yeshua is Lord and you will answer to Him.

 

[hobelim]

Baal is the father of the
morning star-rev 22:16.
They say father and son are one in the same as part of a trinity.
This is because they are the same mythology given a new image mask and name for the same harvest scam.
The Bel (Baal) myth does in
fact have mythical elements including death and resurrection which parallel the Jesus myth and thus are forerunners of mythical elements in the Jesus myth.
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum, referred to as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet.
Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.

Ishtar (easter)(Isis in other cultures) is the Mother of the Morning Star. Isis is the wife of Baal.
In the Canaanite rites of Athtar the fierce the Dying god mythology states the dying son called morning star, surpasses
his father Baal on the throne.

The dying god resurrection story borrowed from Baal's resurrection= serpents promise of eternal life is the way the adversary gets what he wants, popular devotion to the dying god that they are benefactors of through being the religious authority and thus collect taxes=tithes without insurrection.
Baal had to die and resurrect to surpass his father Dagon on the throne when Dagon(the fishman god) idol lost his flavor and the cycle occured again when Baal was being rejected & opposed.

The radiant sun or circle behind the cross
is a Baal cross. Ironically the ring worn by the Popes is the fishman god ring (Dagon) that they are kissing.
He was the Father of Baal, who is the father of the morning star-rev 22:16.
This is why the Ishtar (easter) myth is that she births a giant egg by the river bed in which a fish is hatched called
the morning star. This is why they wear the fish head hat called Mitre and have scales on their robes or trim.
Jesus is Baal as Baal is Dagon.
The fishers of men hook line and sinker.

Yeshua is Lord and you will answer to Him.

HaShev thinks that the divine commands are about diet and fashion and the sex lives of human beings as if a holy God has the emotional maturity and spiritual substance of a puerile and capricious worldly petty tyrant.


He has his reward already.

 

[HaShev]

1)there was no Yeshua messiah figure, I believe you mean Yeshu of 100bc
Yohoshua was his mentor Rabbi.
2) Y'SH =Yeshu and Y'Sh pronounced HaShev is written the same (no vowels in Hebrew and Y (J) is pronounced as an H LIKE IN SPANISH)
Don't believe me then look at the Book of Yoshua (Joshua) it's called Hoshea.
So you are telling Y'SH to answer to himself? Very Brave of You!

 

[hadit]

1)there was no Yeshua messiah figure, I believe you mean Yeshu of 100bc
Yohoshua was his mentor Rabbi.
2) Y'SH =Yeshu and Y'Sh pronounced HaShev is written the same (no vowels in Hebrew and Y (J) is pronounced as an H LIKE IN SPANISH)
Don't believe me then look at the Book of Yoshua (Joshua) it's called Hoshea.
So you are telling Y'SH to answer to himself? Very Brave of You!

Yeshua is Lord, and your spouting otherwise will not change that. Is it sinking in yet?

 

[shimon]

How Humorous Hadit Lord can also mean BAAL... So your saying Yashua is Lord means he fits one of thye many Baalim or false gds spoken of in many places...Look it up if you dont BEL/iEVE me....Now I find it amazing that people have trouble grasping certain things.... For example if son of is not to be taken literally(like Christians do with their Jesus) even though there is a passage in their own books that says blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be sons and daughters of gd...Wink....Then if one emulates or behaves in a proper or gd like fashion then he would be a son of gd(not literal).... So same goes for being in the line of David...If David Ben(this is hebrew and means Son of) Gurian was the first prime minister(or leader or king) of restored Israel then all prime ministers following him are emulating him and are in his line... So Netanyahu as prime minister today is in the line of DAVID....Now if this is not so hard to grasp then why are people having trouble with the concept that eventually a new temple will be rebuilt where the priests will as ONE of their jobs reinstitute the sacrificial system and that out of one of these priests or kohenime will be their leader who makes certain decisions by either consensus or by himself...This man is not supernatural and he also has human frailties but he will be in charge in certain instances just like any head of a corporation or company is today.... The problem as I see it is that people want to make up some mystical figure like Jesus and put all their hopes and dreams and aspirations on him because it makes them feel better instead of realizing that it is just a lie and a figment of their imaginations and really bad and erronous teachings from a group that does not have their best interests at heart but only their own for either wealth or power or control....

 

[HaShev]

Hadit and Hobelim named the same wrong christ figure. *L*
Historical accuracy and facts they say is unimportant, because they can't ever address their mistakes=human ego.

HISTORICAL Fact; Yeshu son of Mary is the 100bc christ figure, the other in his era was
Rabbi Yehuda ben Tabbai 100bc who's acct about weeping over sending someone to death mistakingly and feeling guilty over it is used for the Judas acct.
The only messianic figures of the Herod Lysanias era were;

The following are the only messianic figures in the time of Lysanias(died 35bc) and King Herod(4bc).
Yehuda (Judas) son of Hezekiah (4 BCE)
Simon of Peraea (4 BCE)
Athronges, the shepherd (4 BCE)
Yehuda (Judas) the Galilean (6 CE)
The only Ad era at that time was
Theudas by the Jordan
Benjamin the Egyptian was a christ figure but I don't recall his era.
Later in 70 ad of course was BARACOPA who had
a large following until he failed his liberation...*hint hint*

The following lores,myths,legends used to create the image of Jesus include Baal, Mithra, Horus, Osiris, Krishna, Esus (the tri god), Dagon, Zeus, and more.
Bible roles stolen from Michael which is why JW's think they are one & the same. Bible characters like Joseph, and Rabbi Yohoshua Ben Chananiah plagiarised.
OT blatantly plagiarised story by story throuought which lead to some pretty funny mistakes in not knowing the meaning of which they borrowed from.

Sources: Book of Acts accounts christ Yehuda and christ Theudas, but confuse their dying sequences by saying Theudas died before Yehuda.

Lysanias died in 35bc, Herod 4bcn therefore can't be in the story of a AD Pilate era figure.

Widows mite is a Jannaeus Alexander coin.
There was no Herod Killing Babies event but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.
This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated & appointed
Shimon ben Shetach head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said to have visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

Fact: the people associated also change names because converged characters have new figures in their story from the other figures used in compilation.
Thus Shimon becomes Peter, Saul becomes Paul, Mattias becomes Matthew,
Thadeus becomes James, etc

Baal source:
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria,
dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum, referred to by officials as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet. Also known as the Baal Passion Play.
Dec 25th birthdate=Baal
Sun symbol cross=Baal
Morning star and dying god mythology=son of Baal.


Mithra: to many sources to list
Discovered in Ireland a predated sickly man on a cross the type the Pope carried=Mithraic.
Bascilica in Rome turned old Mithra temples into churches and kept the altar with the Mithraic cross.

Esus=tri god

Dagon=fishman god father of Baal predated tablet carvings seen in fishead mitres and scales on robes. Popes fishman ring.
Idol that broke his hands off during his fall.

Krishna was called Christos.

Mary and Baby Jesus statues are actually predated
Mother Isis(wife of Baal) and Baby Horus.

Toooooooo Much to list!

Hobelims only responses: ad Hominem lies about what I believe or teach instead of refuting the obvious=his own errors and failed logic especially when naming a christ not even remotely existing the era he is describing of another Christ=Epic Fail!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So, all they had to do was to make sure Jesus never rose from the dead as he promised. Had he had the common decency of every other false Messiah and stayed dead, they could have broken the seal after the third day and paraded his lifeless corpse of the through the streets.

Instead someone moved the lid off the tomb with such force that it sheared the bolts clean off and caused the Guards to flee.

 

[HaShev]

Yeah don't take into the acct of a fabricated story knowing the holders of this acct are known liars using stories to subvert and control cultures through. Have you not been paying attention to accts of Rome's Past hehavior to see emulations and repeated occurances?

Example where were you when this was listed a dozen times?
Why "the father's" (Baal's) son had to die can be found in the Canaanite Dying god mythology of Athtar the Fierce.
The mythology whereby the son
(morning star) must die to surpass his father Baal on the throne. Since they plagiarized the Baal myth Tablets and claim the son is one in same (is Baal with new mask) then the old mask was replaced with the new more Judaic one to try and convert Jews to Baal while collecting taxes without revolt through guise of offerings to this god. The dying god resurrection story borrowed from Baal's resurrection.
Source of Baal=Jesus resurrection acct
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and
dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum,
and referred to by British Museum officials as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet
Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.

 

[HaShev]

They gave you a clue Satan (adversary accuser of the Temple Priests=Rome) offered the figure popularity above god and in selling a ressurection satan (Rome) did achieve this, mirroring the serpent story in Genesis offering eternity partaking from his tree (cross).
The Deeper Genesis:
We know Adam and Eve aren't literal first inhabitants, they are symbols in a story representing something.
You won't see that message if you don't have the key, that being understanding where the message comes from and it's purpose. You all see the messages coming from the past to warn the future forgeting Heaven is the perfected kingdom to come thus Future which is warning the past. You don't notice these things because you think of time in a linear sence when the message is from the non linear capability advanced future. You were given clues when the OT said in Isaiah, the begining is at the end. Now read Genesis representing warnings to man from those who know where we mess up.
The tree of Life is considered the deeper aspect of the Torah thus leaving us the tree of life to eat from means leaving the word to help guide us.
The forbidden tree that Eve (the second bride of man =The Church) partakes from is the one in the center of the Garden (which is described as ancient Iran according to Genesis 2:10-14)This is where the rivers converge, rivers are spiritual congregations/faiths in biblical meaning, thus the forbidden tree in the center is the converging of faiths all steming from Zoroasterianism which started in that region.
The deity of Mithra (mythology from ancient Iran), the sickly man on the cross, born of a virgin died then rose 3 days from a tomb predating Jesus is the forbidden image taken from that tree. Thus that image that walked the garden in Ezekiel 28 regarding the fallen false prophet. This converging and compiling mythologies and cultures is warned because it mixes both knowledge that is good and doctrines that are evil. When they eat of this and have the knowledge they will become like us means they will become like the hosts (kohanim/priests) who is the context of the "US" spoken of. They will become like G-d means they will take this forbidden compilation and make themselves a false temple and false hierarchy of hosts (cardinals and Bishops) and the Pope makes himself as a G-d just as the bible in Genesis did warn. Rome was famous for stealing people's deities by conquering them, telling them their deity no longer favored them, then set up a temple for that deity in their own territory claiming to be the new authority including setting up new books and new false doctrines. This is what they did with the deity Juno and what they did in destroying the Jerusalem Temple with stealing YHWH, claiming he was now in disfavor with the Jews they fooled people into believing they were now the authority and temple.They thus made themselves the new (impostor) Hosts and Pope set up as the new (impostor) father in heaven.
You see Adam means man and represents man in the deeper sense. EVE is not Adam's (man's) first wife (Israel or Jerusalem Temple-Lilith), thus she is the next bride (representing the church)thus the serpent (false prophet) convinced Eve to eat from his tree that she would not die (Jesus himself said such words)and Eve (church) convinced Adam (Man) to also stray and what fruit did they partake of, an APPLE? But Apples aren't indigenous and the fruit is not mentioned in the bible??Surely mankind has subconsciously revealed this forbidden fruit as 'A PAUL' who wrote 1/2-3/4 the NT and thus his forbidden fruit is revealed.

The word for naked in Genesis is liken to our term baring all. They were covering up their deception, hiding from being revealed.