JD Vance insults Europe

[LordBrownTrout]

Europe can defend ukraine. Its in their backyard. We've already bailed them out twice.

 

[DonGlock26]

Alex Marlow: JD Vance’s Speech Gave Voice to Ordinary People Against Globalist Oligarchs Pushing Forever Wars

On Friday's "Alex Marlow Show," host and Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow discussed Vice President JD Vance's speech earlier this week. Marlow | Clips

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[Nostra]

NATO is 75 years old. The United States birthed it.

We have led it for 1/3 of our existence.

It is the principal bulwark against Russian expansion in the East, and a potent force in the rest of the world.

The combined GDP of Europe and the United States dwarf’s Russia and China.

If the US continues to lead, we can force a humiliating defeat on Russia, reducing it from true world power status.

Or, we an retreat, as Vance and Trump are signaling.

As the US retreats from our role as a world leader, out power and influence will decline.

WTF does NATO have to do with this?

 

[Nostra]

You claimed that well known current events was “nonsense”.

But, enjoy your Trumpian fairy tale while it lasts.

Trump is abandoning a 75 year policy in favor of one that was one of history’s greatest failures.

The show he and Musk are putting on on X will run its course.

Especially when hundreds of thousands of people are out of work.

Link us up to this 75year policy saying we have to defend Ukraine TimFitz

 

[Kondor3]

Of course not,a xenophobic parochial isolationist, would not be “insulted”

Oh, my, my, my... I don't think you liked my analysis... oh, dearie-me... golly-gosh gee-whiz, Emmy Lou...

Vance didn’t insult you. He pandered to your flat earth world view.

You tell 'em, Sport... always best to lead-off with personal insults when you don't like an expressed opinion...

Your post is so riddled with antique isolationist tropes that it could have been written in the 1920’s, not the 2020’s.

You mistake a renewed insistence upon Europe taking on its own defense for actual Isolationism, which I do not favor.

“We've taxed ourselves almost beyond endurance on their behalf and that of other friends and former enemies...”
This is 100% false.

I've actually spent time in Europe standing guard, and seen the massive outlays and expense for myself... you are wrong.

But the flat earthers believe it. In fact, the US had little trouble affording the Marshal Plan, and we spent less than 1% of our funds on foreign aid. A far cry from your lies.

I tell no lies. The United States had shielded Europe from the Russians since 1945. Your ignorance in denying that is astounding.

‘“The United States ( Nova Europa ) wants to partner with Europe in defense of Western Civilization...”

Not only did Vance not say that, but your beloved fuhrer

MY "beloved"? Go back and look at my posts over the past several years. You'll find that not only did I not vote for him but that I was calling him the Orange Baboon God for years before you showed-up a week before the election, my little Internet mouse-turd.

I am a registered (D) myself but I consider myself an Independent in all matters national.

And as an Independent I equally enjoy when (R)s put their foot in the mouth AND when Trump makes Libtard brains explode.

is actively trying to abandon out 75 year old commitment to be leader of the free world.

I see him trying to snap Europe out of its LibTard trance and to push back on Militant Islam, Illegal Aliens, and the like.

Instead, he sends his stooge of a VP to promote facism, the very thing we fought to defeat in WWII.

I saw the Vice President connect with right-of-center political figures in Germany. I did not see him promoting facsism.

Your rants about “wokism” an lecturing other countries about immigration are reflections of your own condescending bigotry.

Thank you for your own candy-a$$ed view of the world. Fortunately, you no longer hold political power in the United States, my little limpdikked impottent Libtard crybaby. Now... go find yourself a Woke Safe Space and phukk-off.

Have a nice day...

 

[Redfish]

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what exactly would be wrong with a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia? Why is war your choice?

 

[Redfish]

Out of one side of your mouth you said we welcome immigrants. Then you turn right around and defend the reality that we are not actually welcoming atall, but difficult and expensive.

Then you claim you get information from “all sources”, then turn right around and dismiss the most even handed, reliable and prestigious electronic news source on the planet.

legal immigrants have always been welcome here. emphasis on LEGAL Although there was a time in the 1920s when we stopped all immigration so that the ones already here could assimilate and become Americans. It may be time to revisit that policy.

 

[Mac1958]

As the US retreats from our role as a world leader, out power and influence will decline.

Yep. That appears to be the goal. America Alone, We're Too Good For Anyone Else™.

Europe should dissolve NATO and keep it to people they can trust. America no longer is trustworthy outside of transactions, and the bullying is repulsive. If we're ever invaded or attacked, they can then save their resources and rest easy.

And it shouldn't end there. Their trusted friends should be raised up in the diplomatic pecking order, and all military/security intelligence they gather overseas should be kept in house to insure thier own security.

"Secretary Rubio, Secretary Gabbard? Yeah, you can take a number".

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

what exactly would be wrong with a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia?

Because there isn't any "mutual", with Putin.
History proved that.

Why is war your choice?

No.

 

[jc456]

Because there isn't any "mutual", with Putin.
History proved that.

No.

What did you want?

 

[Redfish]

Because there isn't any "mutual", with Putin.
History proved that.

No.

horseshit, Putin wants his country to prosper and not be involved in a nuclear war. He would welcome a business relationship. you have been brainwashed with hate by the lying dem/media.

 

[Redfish]

What did you want?

like all on the left, he wants nuclear war with no winners. These idiots think wiping out humanity will save the planet.

 

[Mac1958]

Don’t pretend you didn’t know that. And don’t pretend it isn’t promoting facism.

They're getting what they want: America has changed teams. Europe now sees it clearly and are moving on.

So now we'll see them defend the murderous, lying thug dictator Putin, and advocating for a closer relationship.

He's just a nice and strong guy who loves his country, that's all!

Everything that people across the political spectrum thought about MAGA is playing out.

 

[jc456]

Silliness?

Did Vance not call out Europe for not recognizing right wing facist fringe parties?

He was actually quite specific about it, actually.

Vance also met personally with the leader of that vert same neo Nazi party.

Don’t pretend you didn’t know that. And don’t pretend it isn’t promoting facism.

Why did they do nothing the last four years? Why do they tariff our products. Explain how they work with us

 

[TimFitz]

We pay out billions around the world every year... yes we are a doormat.... Biden's illegal aliens wiped their shoes on it as they walked in...

We spend less than 1% of our budget on foreign aid.

Your claims are false.

But your claims do reflect the uninformed nonsense that jingoistic American isolationists tell one another.
They are ancient, false stereotypes.

 

[TimFitz]

Why did they do nothing the last four years? Why do they tariff our products. Explain how they work with us

What are you talking about?

Oh, you’re trying to move the goalposts so you can avoid justifying your fuhrer’s cowardice.

What did Europe do for the last four years?

They welcomed hundreds of thousands of Ukranian refugees. They more than matched the American on again, Trump opposed efforts to give Ulrkraine aid.

Sweden and Finland joined NATO.

No, you are the one arguing for retreat and betrayal, which is what came out of the mouths of your beloved fuhrer and his lickspittle stooges this week (I’m watching Rubio defend Vance’s love in with neo Nazis right now).

Oh, and on tarriffs. The EU responded in kind to the unilateral and unprovoked actions of the Trump regieme.

 

[jc456]

What are you talking about?

Oh, you’re trying to move the goalposts so you can avoid justifying your fuhrer’s cowardice.

What did Europe do for the last four years?

They welcomed hundreds of thousands of Ukranian refugees. They more than matched the American on again, Trump opposed efforts to give Ulrkraine aid.

Sweden and Finland joined NATO.

No, you are the one arguing for retreat and betrayal, which is what came out of the mouths of your beloved fuhrer and his lickspittle stooges this week (I’m watching Rubio defend Vance’s love in with neo Nazis right now).

Oh, and on tarriffs. The EU responded in kind to the unilateral and unprovoked actions of the Trump regieme.

I’m bringing you back to the field

 

[TimFitz]

I’m bringing you back to the field

????????

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[jc456]

Of course not,a xenophobic parochial isolationist, would not be “insulted”

Vance didn’t insult you. He pandered to your flat earth world view.

Your post is so riddled with antique isolationist tropes that it could have been written in the 1920’s, not the 2020’s.

“We've taxed ourselves almost beyond endurance on their behalf and that of other friends and former enemies...”
This is 100% false. But the flat earthers believe it. In fact, the US had little trouble affording the Marshal Plan, and we spent less than 1% of our funds on foreign aid. A far cry from your lies.

‘“The United States ( Nova Europa ) wants to partner with Europe in defense of Western Civilization...”

Not only did Vance not say that, but your beloved fuhrer is actively trying to abandon out 75 year old commitment to be leader of the free world.

Instead, he sends his stooge of a VP to promote facism, the very thing we fought to defeat in WWII.

Your rants about “wokism” an lecturing other countries about immigration are reflections of your own condescending bigotry.

Can you name how they help us?