Jason Crow's salient point is a lesson for us all.

[berg80]

Crow appeared on a recent episode of Bill Maher's show.

ICYMI: Congressman Crow on Real Time with Bill Maher

LOS ANGELES — Congressman Jason Crow joined Real Time with Bill Maher for a wide-ranging discussion on his work to lower costs for Coloradans, what the Democratic Party needs to do differently, and the importance of holding Donald Trump accountable.

crow.house.gov

In the closing moments of the interview with him and the other guest he said something that resonated with me. To paraphrase, it was we all need to learn to be able to hold two truths about nuanced issues in our heads simultaneously. He made the remark in the context of a discussion about Israel's actions in Gaza. Defending his position as someone who does not support Hamas while being capable of recognizing the intentional starvation of children in Gaza is inhumane.

It's not a novel concept but one we could all benefit from implementing.

For example, I can acknowledge the reduction of illegal immigration at the southern border is a good thing for the country, while at the same time rejecting many of the policies creating that result.

I can agree in principle with Biden's efforts to make immigration policy more humane following trump 1.0, while seeing how it gave hope to people desperate to escape the conditions they lived under in their native countries. Causing more immigrants to come to the border. Putting more stress on an under funded, inefficient system for processing people.

I can agree, conceptually, with the desire for greater government efficiency, while disagreeing with the way the DOGE team conducted itself.

I can agree the $500M fine imposed on trump in the civil fraud case was excessive, at the same time as concurring with the finding of his guilt based on the evidence.

I can agree targeted tariffs are an effective tool in protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries, while observing blanket tariffs, both indiscriminately and illegally applied, are harmful to the country in multiple ways.

We could all benefit from less binary thinking and more nuance. Less polarization, more search for the middle ground.

Would any trump supporters like to provide an example of their own?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The vast majority of Americans oppose illegal immigration

Trump promised and is delivering

 

[Thinker101]

Crow appeared on a recent episode of Bill Maher's show.

ICYMI: Congressman Crow on Real Time with Bill Maher

LOS ANGELES — Congressman Jason Crow joined Real Time with Bill Maher for a wide-ranging discussion on his work to lower costs for Coloradans, what the Democratic Party needs to do differently, and the importance of holding Donald Trump accountable.

crow.house.gov

In the closing moments of the interview with him and the other guest he said something that resonated with me. To paraphrase, it was we all need to learn to be able to hold two truths about nuanced issues in our heads simultaneously. He made the remark in the context of a discussion about Israel's actions in Gaza. Defending his position as someone who does not support Hamas while being capable of recognizing the intentional starvation of children in Gaza is inhumane.

It's not a novel concept but one we could all benefit from implementing.

For example, I can acknowledge the reduction of illegal immigration at the southern border is a good thing for the country, while at the same time rejecting many of the policies creating that result.

I can agree in principle with Biden's efforts to make immigration policy more humane following trump 1.0, while seeing how it gave hope to people desperate to escape the conditions they lived under in their native countries. Causing more immigrants to come to the border. Putting more stress on an under funded, inefficient system for processing people.

I can agree, conceptually, with the desire for greater government efficiency, while disagreeing with the way the DOGE team conducted itself.

I can agree the $500M fine imposed on trump in the civil fraud case was excessive, at the same time as concurring with the finding of his guilt based on the evidence.

I can agree targeted tariffs are an effective tool in protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries, while observing blanket tariffs, both indiscriminately and illegally applied, are harmful to the country in multiple ways.

We could all benefit from less binary thinking and more nuance. Less polarization, more search for the middle ground.

Would any trump supporters like to provide an example of their own?

In other words, you agree with many of Trump's policies, but you have a need to justify your hatred.

 

[pknopp]

The vast majority of Americans oppose illegal immigration

Trump promised and is delivering

And to the point of the OP, they do not support grabbing and arresting those showing up to their hearings.

 

[berg80]

In other words, you agree with many of Trump's policies, but you have to have excuses to justify your hatred.

I'm going to take that as a no regarding your willingness to provide a few examples of your own.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

And to the point of the OP, they do not support grabbing and arresting those showing up to their hearings.

I suspect you're wrong. But keep blabbering.

 

[Anathema]

We could all benefit from less binary thinking and more nuance. Less polarization, more search for the middle ground.

Would any trump supporters like to provide an example of their own?

Nope. I live in a world with only two options… Right and Wrong. There is no nuance. There is no grey area. There are no exceptions.

 

[Thinker101]

I'm going to take that as a no regarding your willingness to provide a few examples of your own.

WTF, you provided examples. Many state that you "agree" then you "disagree". You really do need to pay attention to your own posts.

 

[pknopp]

WTF, you provided examples. Many state that you "agree" then you "disagree". You really do need to pay attention to your own posts.

Seems it was too complicated of a concept for you.

 

[berg80]

WTF, you provided examples. Many state that you "agree" then you "disagree". You really do need to pay attention to your own posts.

I regret to point out you provided a shinning example of a lack of nuanced thinking. Do you see how it is possible to agree with a policy goal and disagree with the means with which it is attempted to be achieved?

For example, I agree with the need to maintain order in a classroom of school kids while disagreeing with the use of corporal punishment to achieve it.

It's not a difficult concept for most people to understand yet you are struggling with it. Just wondering, did you graduate from high school?

 

[22lcidw]

I'm going to take that as a no regarding your willingness to provide a few examples of your own.

Progressives purposely promote agendas that keep spending voraciously high as to eventually collapse the nation as a reason to install a new type of government apparatus. In other words, we gonna get the global government whether you want it or not. The mocking, smearing and even destruction of Christians, white people particularly males is a tenet of their agendas. You see, no matter how much you deny it, they did build most of the nation and much of the great things as well as the not so great you endlessly push on this planet.

 

[Thinker101]

I regret to point out you provided a shinning example of a lack of nuanced thinking. Do you see how it is possible to agree with a policy goal and disagree with the means with which it is attempted to be achieved?

For example, I agree with the need to maintain order in a classroom of school kids while disagreeing with the use of corporal punishment to achieve it.

It's not a difficult concept for most people to understand yet you are struggling with it. Just wondering, did you graduate from high school?

Great, you agree with a policy, yet you disagree with the implementation of a solution. Meanwhile never proposing your own solution. The typical Democrat way, piss and moan but never offer a solution.

 

[berg80]

Great, you agree with a policy, yet you disagree with the implementation of a solution. Meanwhile never proposing your own solution. The typical Democrat way, piss and moan but never offer a solution.

I see you are still struggling. Allow me to assist. I said........

"I can agree targeted tariffs are an effective tool in protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries, while observing blanket tariffs, both indiscriminately and illegally applied, are harmful to the country in multiple ways."

That isn't really agreeing with trump's policy on tariffs. It only recognizes tariffs, implemented in a measured way, can be an effective tool for protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries. The way trump is going about it is idiotic. Not to mention his lack of understanding about who pays for tariffs.

Does that help?

 

[Hafar1014]

Crow appeared on a recent episode of Bill Maher's show.

ICYMI: Congressman Crow on Real Time with Bill Maher

LOS ANGELES — Congressman Jason Crow joined Real Time with Bill Maher for a wide-ranging discussion on his work to lower costs for Coloradans, what the Democratic Party needs to do differently, and the importance of holding Donald Trump accountable.

crow.house.gov

In the closing moments of the interview with him and the other guest he said something that resonated with me. To paraphrase, it was we all need to learn to be able to hold two truths about nuanced issues in our heads simultaneously. He made the remark in the context of a discussion about Israel's actions in Gaza. Defending his position as someone who does not support Hamas while being capable of recognizing the intentional starvation of children in Gaza is inhumane.

It's not a novel concept but one we could all benefit from implementing.

For example, I can acknowledge the reduction of illegal immigration at the southern border is a good thing for the country, while at the same time rejecting many of the policies creating that result.

I can agree in principle with Biden's efforts to make immigration policy more humane following trump 1.0, while seeing how it gave hope to people desperate to escape the conditions they lived under in their native countries. Causing more immigrants to come to the border. Putting more stress on an under funded, inefficient system for processing people.

I can agree, conceptually, with the desire for greater government efficiency, while disagreeing with the way the DOGE team conducted itself.

I can agree the $500M fine imposed on trump in the civil fraud case was excessive, at the same time as concurring with the finding of his guilt based on the evidence.

I can agree targeted tariffs are an effective tool in protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries, while observing blanket tariffs, both indiscriminately and illegally applied, are harmful to the country in multiple ways.

We could all benefit from less binary thinking and more nuance. Less polarization, more search for the middle ground.

Would any trump supporters like to provide an example of their own?

This is called confusion as Trump forces democrats to face the failure of their beliefs. This isnt the first time. We saw this before when Reagan fixed the Carter disaster with conservative policies.

Notice there are no solutions in the post

The best example were the 4 years of Biden incompetence, fraud, coverups, lawfare, the border invasion, covering up crime in democrat cities, massive expansion if the government and inflation, poor energy polices gender absurdity, and the most destructive administration in history built on DEI that created systemic incompetence in the Biden cabinet.

Democrats lack the courage wisdom and maturity to face the total failure of their beliefs. They are even defending criminals now

 

[Seymour Flops]

In the closing moments of the interview with him and the other guest he said something that resonated with me. To paraphrase, it was we all need to learn to be able to hold two truths about nuanced issues in our heads simultaneously.

Did he claim to have tought of that himself?

If so, he plagiarized it from George Orwell. Orwell talked about that extensively in his nover "1984." It was called 'Doublethink."

For example, the Party Members had to believe simultaneously that the Party was completely indestructable, and also that they must be ever vigilent to keep the Party from being destroyed.

He made the remark in the context of a discussion about Israel's actions in Gaza. Defending his position as someone who does not support Hamas while being capable of recognizing the intentional starvation of children in Gaza is inhumane.

That is not "two truths," that is one opinion and one lie.

It's not a novel concept but one we could all benefit from implementing.

For example, I can acknowledge the reduction of illegal immigration at the southern border is a good thing for the country, while at the same time rejecting many of the policies creating that result.

Again, not new. It's every woman's counter when their man proves that he did/said the right thing. "It was the waaaay you did/said it!"

I can agree in principle with Biden's efforts to make immigration policy more humane following trump 1.0, while seeing how it gave hope to people desperate to escape the conditions they lived under in their native countries. Causing more immigrants to come to the border. Putting more stress on an under funded, inefficient system for processing people.

Biden did not "make immigration policy more humane." He threw open the border, leaving the Cartels as gatekeepers. He encouraged the Cartels to dump children at the border and then shipped those children to "sponsors" in the interior of the country, and then lost track of hundreds of thousands of them.

Murders, rapes, robberies of border crossers skyrocketted under Biden. How as that more humane?

I can agree, conceptually, with the desire for greater government efficiency, while disagreeing with the way the DOGE team conducted itself.

The waaaaay they did it.

I can agree the $500M fine imposed on trump in the civil fraud case was excessive, at the same time as concurring with the finding of his guilt based on the evidence.

You can. But if you now cry foul when the same thing happens to Democrats who have either a) committed clear acts of mortgage fraud, or b) been completely honest in their mortgage applications in which case they have nothing to worry about, you are being hypocritical, not performing some intellectual exercise.

I can agree targeted tariffs are an effective tool in protecting US industries being harmed by the unfair practices of foreign countries, while observing blanket tariffs, both indiscriminately and illegally applied, are harmful to the country in multiple ways.

We could all benefit from less binary thinking and more nuance. Less polarization, more search for the middle ground.

Yes, I'll agree that both sides could improve on that.

Would any trump supporters like to provide an example of their own?

Sure.

I can recognize that Trump was unsuccessful in forming a well-functioning marital relationship, due to his own weakness and self-indulgence while at the same time being very glad that he is not only a very strong and successful president, who is quickly reversing the worst actions of his predecessor (more correctly, his predecessor's Autopen weilding handlers).

But again, that is not really an intellectual feat.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is called confusion as Trump forces democrats to face the failure of their beliefs. This isnt the first time. We saw this before when Reagan fixed the Carter disaster with conservative policies.

Correct.

Also known as cognitive dissonance.

 

[Hafar1014]

Correct.

Also known as cognitive dissonance.

Or bold faced liars

 

[berg80]

Did he claim to have tought of that himself?

Holding two truths in your head about an issue doesn't mean the truths are necessarily contradictory. Maybe I over estimated you folks regarding your ability to understand simple concepts.

 

[berg80]

That is not "two truths," that is one opinion and one lie.

The point he was making being a person shouldn't be pigeon holed as being pro-Hamas for speaking out on Israel's inhumane treatment of people living in Gaza.

I'm beginning to get the feeling you're being purposely obtuse. Or just trying to pick a fight.

 

[berg80]

Biden did not "make immigration policy more humane." He threw open the border

A factually incorrect belief that is almost universally held by trumples as a consequence of a deluge of misinformation from trump and right wing media.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/17/us-mexico-border-open-borders-myth