Japan marks 76th anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombings

[DudleySmith]

The Japanese were pure evil during WW ll
They are lucky that we only had two atomic bombs to drop on them. ...

They still had over 3 million troops butchering people in China as well, which would have been even more costly than taking the mainland.

 

[DudleySmith]

Eisenhower was in europe not the far east

The US military training for the invasion loved the bombs that dropped on japan

These cretins know nothing; they think Ike ran everything because they never heard of George Marshal or FDR. They're not here to discuss facts anyway, just babble 'America Bad!!!! America Bad!!!!'. over and over and over.

 

[Mac-7]

He lies about everything,

No, revisionist history has been peddled to the unwary since the end of WWII on a variety of topics

I dont know how far Unkotare will go, but there are plenty of libs who believe the US is responsible for Cold War and the poor old russians are just victims of CIA misinformation

Ditto for the korean war doncha know

to hear some libs tell it we started that too

 

[Unkotare]

These cretins know nothing; they think Ike ran everything because they never heard of George Marshal or FDR. ...

Who do you think never heard of fdr? Are you nuts?

 

[Mac-7]

These cretins know nothing; they think Ike ran everything because they never heard of George Marshal or FDR. They're not here to discuss facts anyway, just babble 'America Bad!!!! America Bad!!!!'. over and over and over.

I think Unkotare is sincere but misinformed

he is very sensitive, even touchy, about any issue involving slanted eyes, aka far east asians

he’s almost as protective of the chinese people

 

[Unkotare]

....

he’s almost as protective of the chinese people

I don't care for bigots of ANY kind. Sorry if that's hard for some to grasp.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't care for bigots of ANY kind. Sorry if that's hard for some to grasp.

And of course noting Japan was not going to surrender is a bigoted response RIGHT?

 

[Mac-7]

don't care for bigots of ANY kind. Sorry if that's hard for some to grasp.

Sometimes you come off as being a pro chinese bigot

It could give people the wrong impression

 

[Unkotare]

Sometimes you come off as being a pro chinese bigot

It could give people the wrong impression

Misperceptions by others is their problem.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

He is a wanna be Japanese fan boy

 

[DudleySmith]

I don't care for bigots of ANY kind. Sorry if that's hard for some to grasp.

This is of course just bullshit.

 

[Unkotare]

This is of course just bullshit.

Have you developed mind reading powers now?

 

[theHawk]

SOunds to me like they learned some bad habits from white people, like Imperialism.. I find it funny that we talk about how awful the Japanese were but ignore how awful we were in the Philippines, Vietnam, Iraq.

Nope, they were racists long before they met any white people. When they did encounter white people, they considered them barbarians. Of course to moronic shitbags like you, that would “sound like they learned from a white supremacists” because you’re dumb enough to believe that only white people are racist.

 

[DudleySmith]

And of course noting Japan was not going to surrender is a bigoted response RIGHT?

Only if white people are winning; he's fine with Japs butchering Chinese, Fillipinos, Malaysians, Vietnamese, and of course Brits and Americans, etc.

 

[Unkotare]

....he's fine with Japanese butchering Chinese, Fillipinos, Malaysians, Vietnamese, and of course Brits and Americans, etc.

Who is "he"?

 

[JoeB131]

Dear yanks;

why the hell did you stop at only two???!!!

Bangka Island: The WW2 massacre and a 'truth too awful to speak'​

Bangka Island: The WW2 massacre and a 'truth too awful to speak'

Twenty-one Australian nurses died at Bangka Island, but a historian says there's more to the story.

www.bbc.com

Just a small example of Jap atrocities.

Greg

And how would killing more women and children have made up for that?

 

[JoeB131]

No, revisionist history has been peddled to the unwary since the end of WWII on a variety of topics

I dont know how far @Unkotare will go, but there are plenty of libs who believe the US is responsible for Cold War and the poor old russians are just victims of CIA misinformation

Ditto for the korean war doncha know

to hear some libs tell it we started that too

Actually, you have to look at the Cold War from the Russian point of view.

Russia over a period of less than 35 years endured two invasions from the west, resulting in the deaths of tens of millions, devastation, political upheaval. Would you really blame them for wanting a buffer zone?

The point is, the USSR never invaded the west and never really had any intention of doing so. sure, they propped up some awful government around the world, but so did we.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope, they were racists long before they met any white people. When they did encounter white people, they considered them barbarians. Of course to moronic shitbags like you, that would “sound like they learned from a white supremacists” because you’re dumb enough to believe that only white people are racist.

Actually, it's more like I have an understanding of Japanese History...

Okay, going give you the short version because of your learning disability.

Japan tried to isolate itself during the period of the Tokugawa Shoganate, (1603-1854) because they didn't want to end up like the Philippines, Vietnam, India, etc. and be dominated by the western powers.

That was all fine until Commodore Perry brought his warships into Tokyo Bay in 1854, and forced the Japanese to sign treaties ending their isolation. This lead to the Meiji Restoration and the militarization of Japan, where they decided the best way to protect themselves was through industrialization and having a strong military. The British were too happy to help, building ships, providing technical know-how and elevating them into a modern state that would act as an enforcer for British interest.

After WWI, the US and Britain treated Japan like a second class nation at the Washington Naval Conference, which further inflamed their nationalism. Kind of like the kid who tries to be cool and never gets to sit at the cool kid's table.

Also, with industrialization comes a hunger for resources...and like the Europeans, the Japanese just decided they were entitled to someone else's. Except, of course, the US and UK wanted to exploit those resources themselves...

That's when the Japanese threw in with the Nazis.

 

[Mac-7]

Actually, you have to look at the Cold War from the Russian point of view.

No I dont

the USSR was a brutal inhuman dictatorship

they might think they are entitled to subjugate other nations for their own ends but thats not so

 

[22lcidw]

Yet, that was exactly the plan. The plan agreed to at Potsdam was to partition Japan like they had partitioned Germany. The Russians were supposed to get Hokkaido and the northern half of Honshu. The US was only supposed to get the southern half of Honshu and Tokyo would be partitioned like Berlin was.

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So what happened? Well, the Soviets weren't playing nice in Korea and Manchuria, so they weren't invited, and didn't have the naval power to support an occpation, anyway.

The Nationalist Chinese had their own problems and didn't have the money to support an occupation. The British did send some troops, but they were in a big hurry to get out of there.

So the task of rebuilding Japan fell entirely to the US.

People and nations win and lose wars. the Japanese lost face as to their culture. But won the war in many other ways. They became a "most favored nation" to American ideas and trade and technologies. They are what the citizens wanted to be. A rich and comfortable living nation with a large middle class population.