Jailed for life.

[Unkotare]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

Remember everything that the nazi's did they copied from the communists in the decade preceeding their rise to power. The nazi's based all their plans on the communists beliefs and it was only when the war ended that the left decided to distance themselves from the Nazi party. The truth will out and when it does the left will be running for the hills rather than be tarred with the Nazi brush

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

Sounds pretty similar

 

[Eloy]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

We are all doomed doomed I say. Meanwhile what caused this was a refusal by the leaders to control our borders and to want to import terrorist into the Country and the fact that the left can not be allowed to control the Supreme Court.

There is no Left in the United States and most terrorists in America were born there.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

We are all doomed doomed I say. Meanwhile what caused this was a refusal by the leaders to control our borders and to want to import terrorist into the Country and the fact that the left can not be allowed to control the Supreme Court.

There is no Left in the United States and most terrorists in America were born there.

You prove just how stupid you are every time you post.

 

[Divine Wind]

Of course not. Not to say it would matter, as you'd be confused by either one. As far as you're concerned, the Nazis had no policies, and just paraded around, screaming "white power". You can't even tell me their policies. Fopdoodles are truly sad creatures.

You deny being a white supremacist, yet have worked very hard to separate the fucking Nazis from Neo-Nazis. Why?

Do you picture yourself as a 2016 version of one of those Prussian Blue girls Lamb and Lynx? Do you know that as adults, they recanted the Nazi/white supremacist/white nationalist shit?

Where Are They Now: Tween Nazis
Prussian Blue consists of twin sisters Lamb and Lynx Gaede, who rose to popularity in 2003 as being the bright, blonde, blue-eyed girls who sang white nationalist pop. What, you weren’t into them? For some reason, I remember Molly and I being fascinated with these girls, mainly because we couldn’t believe they existed in real life.

For a little backstory, the twins were born Bakersfield, California and raised by parents April and Bill Gaede. Their mom was even a member of racist fringe groups including the National Alliance and the National Vanguard.

The girls began to write songs and learn how to play instruments, penning songs like “Hitler Is Our Hero” and “Aryan Man Awake”. They recorded two albums and even toured Europe, performing at white nationalist organizations. They even went on to say that they believed the Holocaust was a “myth,” and in fact, the name Prussian Blue refers to the by-product of the poisonous substance used to gas Jews in concentration camps. Classy kids, these two.

Their story was even transformed into a musical a few years ago called White Noise, a project even Whoopi Goldberg backed. While it didn’t find the steam to take it all the way to Broadway, one thing for sure is that Prussian Blue became the talk of newsmagazines across every major network, as these two ‘cherubic’ girls were being used to perpetuate white supremacist propaganda.

To give you a taste of their music, here’s a song called Victory Day. I really hate to give this video more views, but I feel like I need to give y’all proof that these girls were for real.


Anyone else offended by the fact that they became popular – but actually have horrible voices? I mean like, racism aside?

So where are these gals now, you ask? Are they still touring Europe with their inspirational songs?

Thank God, the answer is no. This is Lamb and Lynx Gaede today:



Total hipsters.

Now 21 years old, the girls moved from California to Montana (apparently their mom wanted to move to a more white state). As of 2011, Lamb and Lynx put their hate pop careers behind them, insisting they don’t believe in the messages they used to sing about anymore.

In an interview in 2011, Lynx tried to explain why they got into the business in the first place, saying, “My sister and I were home-schooled. We were these country bumpkins. We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats.”

Lamb adds, “I was just spouting a lot of knowledge that I had no idea what I was saying.”

So take note kids, if you want to become semi-successful in a very niche music market, just do what you’re told and don’t ask questions, even if they seem like they could be extremely offensive.

They both live in Montana still, with Lamb living on her own and working as a hotel maid, and Lynx lives with their mother, stepdad and half-sister, Dresden (the names of these children, good lord) in a home near Lamb. As a freshman in high school, Lynx was diagnosed with cancer and a large tumor was removed from her shoulder. She also suffers from a rare condition called CVS, Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome, which sounds like the most horrible disease in the world.

Unfortunately Lamb has suffered from a few health problems as well, including scoliosis and chronic back pain, as well as lack of appetite and emotional stress… wonder where that came from.

But the one thing that helps them get through the day? Pot. Yes, you read that right.

Lynx reveals, “I have to say, marijuana saved my life. I would probably be dead if I didn’t have it.”

In fact, the two made more history as they became one of the first five minors to get a medical marijuana card in Montana. What a great fun fact to use when forced to play icebreaker games in college.

Speaking of which, they still hope to enroll in college, and are on a mission to make medical marijuana legal all across the U.S. Meanwhile, they’re still keeping their artistic juices flowing, with painting and for Lynx, restoring old furniture.

While their mom believes their mild music stardom was just going to be “a little fun thing to do,” and the twins don’t exactly believe every wold they used to sing, they still have some traces of white supremacy in their ideology.

When asked about their outlook on the Holocaust now, Lynx replied, “I think certain things happened. I think a lot of the stories got misconstrued. I mean, yeah, Hitler wasn’t the best, but Stalin wasn’t, Churchill wasn’t. I disagree with everybody at that time.”

Lamb agreed with her sister and said, “I just think everyone needs to frickin’ get over it. That’s what I think. We just want to come from a place of love and light. I think we’re meant to do something more – we’re healers. We just want to exert the most love and positivity we can.”

There you have it folks. They’re healers now.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Of course not. Not to say it would matter, as you'd be confused by either one. As far as you're concerned, the Nazis had no policies, and just paraded around, screaming "white power". You can't even tell me their policies. Fopdoodles are truly sad creatures.

You deny being a white supremacist, yet have worked very hard to separate the fucking Nazis from Neo-Nazis. Why?

Do you picture yourself as a 2016 version of one of those Prussian Blue girls Lamb and Lynx? Do you know that as adults, they recanted the Nazi/white supremacist/white nationalist shit?

It's funny, earlier in the thread you claimed I was immature and calling names, and because I pointed out you're wrong, you're now calling me a Nazi. You're a truly sad and pathetic creature.

You see, I'm separating them because, well, they're different things and you're lumping them together because you're an ignorant Fopdoodle. There's a reason they're called "Neo-Nazis" today, and that would be because they're different from the Nazis, which ceased action after their leader died. You're trying to mix up two difference forces of evil in an attempt to assert a fallacy. I'm only asserting historical accuracy. Just admit you were wrong and move along.

 

[Divine Wind]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

 

[Grief]

sweet cheeks

Your era is showing.

 

[Dragonlady]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

Remember everything that the nazi's did they copied from the communists in the decade preceeding their rise to power. The nazi's based all their plans on the communists beliefs and it was only when the war ended that the left decided to distance themselves from the Nazi party. The truth will out and when it does the left will be running for the hills rather than be tarred with the Nazi brush

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

Sounds pretty similar

I love how the Nazis are using memes as proof of their points of view. Why bother with facts.

When the Bolsheviks took over in Russia, the country was a feudal society, and far behind the rest of Europe which had become industrialized. The early Russian Communists had the task of modernizing a massive country which was far behind the western countries.

Germany had always been one of the most powerful countries in Europe, well equipped, modern and efficient. The two countries and their citizens were very dissimilar.

Read history. Not alt right websites. Learn facts, not racist fictions.

 

[Unkotare]

...

Read history. ....

I have, thanks. Almost certainly much more than you have.

 

[Unkotare]

....

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

The Declaration of the Rights of the People of Russia appealed to their specific value as a people as well.

....Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

Communism is all about world domination.

....He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

So did the Soviets

....There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

Obviously there is.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

 

[Phoenall]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

Does this mean that communists dont exist anymore because Stalin is dead, or Pol Pot, Mao and the whole host of other communist leaders. Hitler was one of thousands of such leaders and his legacy still lives on no matter what you say.

NAZI'S ARE ALIVE AND KICKING AND STILL EXIST, JUST NOT IN ANY GREAT NUMBERS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEMSELVES UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OF LAWS BANNING THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOGMA SO OPERATE AS ANONYMOUS ENTITIES ON INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS

 

[Pumpkin Row]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

Does this mean that communists dont exist anymore because Stalin is dead, or Pol Pot, Mao and the whole host of other communist leaders. Hitler was one of thousands of such leaders and his legacy still lives on no matter what you say.

NAZI'S ARE ALIVE AND KICKING AND STILL EXIST, JUST NOT IN ANY GREAT NUMBERS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEMSELVES UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OF LAWS BANNING THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOGMA SO OPERATE AS ANONYMOUS ENTITIES ON INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS

Oh good grief, another Fopdoodle. Communists don't exist, and they never have. Communism is a purely hypothetical ideology because the government structure is impossible to implement, let alone maintain. For a society to be Communist, there must be no social classes, no government, and no currency. Not a single society has ever fit that description, therefor there has never been a Communist society, and because the system is impossible to implement, there are no Communists.

HOWEVER, let me explain to you that even if your question had any merit, the Nazis are not simply a type of person, but a political party. They are members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. America does not have a National Socialist German Workers' Party, nor does any other Nation, as he party died with Hitler. That's not the same as someone simply being Socialist.

 

[Phoenall]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

Does this mean that communists dont exist anymore because Stalin is dead, or Pol Pot, Mao and the whole host of other communist leaders. Hitler was one of thousands of such leaders and his legacy still lives on no matter what you say.

NAZI'S ARE ALIVE AND KICKING AND STILL EXIST, JUST NOT IN ANY GREAT NUMBERS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEMSELVES UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OF LAWS BANNING THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOGMA SO OPERATE AS ANONYMOUS ENTITIES ON INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS

Oh good grief, another Fopdoodle. Communists don't exist, and they never have. Communism is a purely hypothetical ideology because the government structure is impossible to implement, let alone maintain. For a society to be Communist, there must be no social classes, no government, and no currency. Not a single society has ever fit that description, therefor there has never been a Communist society, and because the system is impossible to implement, there are no Communists.

HOWEVER, let me explain to you that even if your question had any merit, the Nazis are not simply a type of person, but a political party. They are members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. America does not have a National Socialist German Workers' Party, nor does any other Nation, as he party died with Hitler. That's not the same as someone simply being Socialist.

It has an American socilist workers party which is ran along NAZI lines. Just because it is not German does not mean it does not exist

 

[Pumpkin Row]

... you're now calling me a Nazi. ....

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

Does this mean that communists dont exist anymore because Stalin is dead, or Pol Pot, Mao and the whole host of other communist leaders. Hitler was one of thousands of such leaders and his legacy still lives on no matter what you say.

NAZI'S ARE ALIVE AND KICKING AND STILL EXIST, JUST NOT IN ANY GREAT NUMBERS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEMSELVES UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OF LAWS BANNING THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOGMA SO OPERATE AS ANONYMOUS ENTITIES ON INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS

Oh good grief, another Fopdoodle. Communists don't exist, and they never have. Communism is a purely hypothetical ideology because the government structure is impossible to implement, let alone maintain. For a society to be Communist, there must be no social classes, no government, and no currency. Not a single society has ever fit that description, therefor there has never been a Communist society, and because the system is impossible to implement, there are no Communists.

HOWEVER, let me explain to you that even if your question had any merit, the Nazis are not simply a type of person, but a political party. They are members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. America does not have a National Socialist German Workers' Party, nor does any other Nation, as he party died with Hitler. That's not the same as someone simply being Socialist.

It has an American socilist workers party which is ran along NAZI lines. Just because it is not German does not mean it does not exist

Oh hey, you're right... and they identify as far left of course. Though, this just goes to show that the Neo-Nazis are a different movement, since they're just Nationalists.

 

[Phoenall]

Read it again, sweet cheeks. Specifically the parts about you saying how Nazis and neo-nazis are different. I asked "Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?" and, again, you are making accusations without answering the question. Odd behavior to say the least and, IMHO, deceptive. If you don't want to answer fine. Have a good life, kid.

I'm telling you they're different because they are. Nazis don't exist anymore, without Hitler to lead them. Neo-Nazis are not Socialists and are not lead by Hitler, because there's no National Socialist Workers Party anymore. You're just incapable of learning.You really should look more into history. You know, aside from what the Establishment tells you what to think.

Does this mean that communists dont exist anymore because Stalin is dead, or Pol Pot, Mao and the whole host of other communist leaders. Hitler was one of thousands of such leaders and his legacy still lives on no matter what you say.

NAZI'S ARE ALIVE AND KICKING AND STILL EXIST, JUST NOT IN ANY GREAT NUMBERS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEMSELVES UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OF LAWS BANNING THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOGMA SO OPERATE AS ANONYMOUS ENTITIES ON INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS

Oh good grief, another Fopdoodle. Communists don't exist, and they never have. Communism is a purely hypothetical ideology because the government structure is impossible to implement, let alone maintain. For a society to be Communist, there must be no social classes, no government, and no currency. Not a single society has ever fit that description, therefor there has never been a Communist society, and because the system is impossible to implement, there are no Communists.

HOWEVER, let me explain to you that even if your question had any merit, the Nazis are not simply a type of person, but a political party. They are members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. America does not have a National Socialist German Workers' Party, nor does any other Nation, as he party died with Hitler. That's not the same as someone simply being Socialist.

It has an American socilist workers party which is ran along NAZI lines. Just because it is not German does not mean it does not exist

Oh hey, you're right... and they identify as far left of course. Though, this just goes to show that the Neo-Nazis are a different movement, since they're just Nationalists.

That is a quantum leap without any evidence to support it. The neo nazi's are just the same as the nazi's of the 1930's, who were allied to the communists of Russia and emulated their mass murders of those who opposed the regime. A regime does not die with its leader while there are people prepared to carry it forward, it might change its name but its remit is just the same. Take the Labour party in the UK that has changed its name as often as its leader changed his socks, still the same old neo marxist regime it was 30 years ago. They are nationalists because they are also fascists, and you need to look up the definition of all these titles before passing comment