Jailed for life.

[RetiredGySgt]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

We are all doomed doomed I say. Meanwhile what caused this was a refusal by the leaders to control our borders and to want to import terrorist into the Country and the fact that the left can not be allowed to control the Supreme Court.

 

[Divine Wind]

...Without any of these essential elements, all you have with semi-educated American riff-raff waving swastikas is a mockery of Nazism by a bunch of clowns. As I said, and which you claim is wrong, once Hitler removed himself with a bullet to the head, Nazism ended.

Disagreed, but believe as you wish, sir.

 

[Divine Wind]

We are all doomed doomed I say. Meanwhile what caused this was a refusal by the leaders to control our borders and to want to import terrorist into the Country and the fact that the left can not be allowed to control the Supreme Court.

Change is inevitable, but doomed by social changes? Less so than people thought in the 1960s when the CRA of 1964 was signed, women were burning their bras and young men their draft cards.

 

[Divine Wind]

Not at all, the problem here lies in the misuse of a common language that has led to the same words having different meanings


As in Bonnet is the front part of a car or a hat, also a hood is the front part of a car or a hat
A motorway is a 3 lane road or is that an interstate
A turnpike is an exit road from an interstate or is it a exit ramp from a motorway

The list is endless and leads to confusion in meanings. So a socialist in the UK would be a communist, A liberal would be balanced centrist politically and a conservative a cautious steady right of centrist.

While I agree there are a lot of truisms in your post, the basic dispute is whether or not Nazis are Socialists. They aren't. Now put that in your fanny pack. (an English work friend of mine had her parents visit and go to Disneyworld. Her English dad broke up laughing at the sight of "fanny packs" being sold in gift shop).

 

[Divine Wind]

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Neo-Nazis=/=Nazis.

You're reaching pretty far for this one. Neo-Nazis are simply white supremacists, the Nazis are the National Socialist Workers Party. We don't have one of those here. Your argument is invalid.

Besides, the people that support a candidate don't decide what that candidate's policies are. We have Conservatives that voted for Trump, and a Conservative Trump is not.

They're fucking Nazis....no matter how cute they look

 

[Divine Wind]

Wishful thinking on your part. You only wish you could have the full package~

I'm sure you're very pretty, but no. Not just because I have no respect for fucking Nazis, white supremacists, black supremacists or any other anti-Constitutional racist douche bags, but for the reasons I previously posted.

 

[Unkotare]

If the OP had read the article hw would have seen that the jury found the defendant guilty of murder only.
Jury was not asked to find his motivation.

Too many US Message Board posters only care about headlines.

Well I have read the article and I understand what the jury has been asked to do.

But now that the nazi fuck is living at our expense I dont see a problem with a few clever people going in and speaking to him.

Do you understand what I am saying ?

I understand you're a hypocrite.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

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Neo-Nazis=/=Nazis.

You're reaching pretty far for this one. Neo-Nazis are simply white supremacists, the Nazis are the National Socialist Workers Party. We don't have one of those here. Your argument is invalid.

Besides, the people that support a candidate don't decide what that candidate's policies are. We have Conservatives that voted for Trump, and a Conservative Trump is not.

They're fucking Nazis....no matter how cute they look

So, not only do you not know what Socialism is, but you also don't understand the difference between a Neo-Nazi and an actual Nazi. I feel sorry for your friends and family, since they have to watch you suffer in your attempt to overcome your ineptitude.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Wishful thinking on your part. You only wish you could have the full package~

I'm sure you're very pretty, but no. Not just because I have no respect for fucking Nazis, white supremacists, black supremacists or any other anti-Constitutional racist douche bags, but for the reasons I previously posted.

In your position, I wouldn't want to admit it, either.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

Remember everything that the nazi's did they copied from the communists in the decade preceeding their rise to power. The nazi's based all their plans on the communists beliefs and it was only when the war ended that the left decided to distance themselves from the Nazi party. The truth will out and when it does the left will be running for the hills rather than be tarred with the Nazi brush

 

[Divine Wind]

So, not only do you not know what Socialism is, but you also don't understand the difference between a Neo-Nazi and an actual Nazi. I feel sorry for your friends and family, since they have to watch you suffer in your attempt to overcome your ineptitude.

In your position, I wouldn't want to admit it, either.

LOL. Pumpkin, some day soon you'll learn the real world is far different than high school. I'm sure it will be a shock to you.

Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?

 

[Dragonlady]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

Remember everything that the nazi's did they copied from the communists in the decade preceeding their rise to power. The nazi's based all their plans on the communists beliefs and it was only when the war ended that the left decided to distance themselves from the Nazi party. The truth will out and when it does the left will be running for the hills rather than be tarred with the Nazi brush

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

 

[Divine Wind]

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

Agreed with all except last paragraph; both were authoritarian states which used mass murder to achieve their goals. The fact they used different ideological and economic means to do so is irrelevant in that regard.

 

[Preacher]

He's a great patriot!

 

[Preacher]

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.....But now that the nazi fuck is living at our expense I dont see a problem with a few clever people going in and speaking to him.

Do you understand what I am saying ?

You want to bring yourself down to his level and murder him like he murdered Jo Cox?

Where did I say that ?
This guy is a nut/terrorist but he probably wasnt born that way. But we should understand how he got there. Would you agree with that ?

Very easy to figure out how he got there. He loves his country and sees it being over run and destroyed by third world scum who are NOT English and that scum bitch he killed was helping it happen. Those that love their country the most are more angry when their country is being destroyed.

 

[Preacher]

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Looks pretty left wing to me.

National Socialism was neither left nor right.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm not playing semantics. There have been socialist gvmnts that are not Nazis. My argument is that it is factually untrue to claim Nazis were far right, when they were clearly socialists.

Calling the Nazis "socialists" is painting them with a 21st Century brush, may be comforting to you but it's historically inaccurate. Such comparisons will also give you a false sense that it couldn't happen in the US, but in fact, it's already happening.

In much the same way that Jews, Roma, and other marginalized people came under attack in Germany after Hitler's election, Jews, Muslims, blacks, and women are coming under attack in Trump's America.

I understand that it's very convenient for you to pin your little labels on historical figures and then dismiss them as being irrelevant to today's situation, but the parallels between Weimar Germany and the today's USA that should not be ignored or glossed over.

The scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims, the "Make American Great Again" slogan, the racist undertones of this candidate is very alarming and should not be dismissed lightly.

Remember everything that the nazi's did they copied from the communists in the decade preceeding their rise to power. The nazi's based all their plans on the communists beliefs and it was only when the war ended that the left decided to distance themselves from the Nazi party. The truth will out and when it does the left will be running for the hills rather than be tarred with the Nazi brush

Hiltlers program was to make Germany Great Again so that Aryans could assert their natural place as the dominant ruling race in the world. And to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth.

Hitler's goal was World domination. He was starting a movement. He was taking control of the world to build the 1000 year Reich.

He wanted to restore the German people's faith in their government and to make them strong.

There is no comparison between communism in Russia and Nazism in Germany.

They were identical and this is shown when you read their history. You dont skip the parts that dont sit with your POV, you read the lot and then you see that Hitlers party was just another marxist offshoot of communism that wanted to rule the world

 

[Phoenall]

He's a great patriot!

Yes he was, a pity he had to go the way he did to show it

 

[Phoenall]

View attachment 99769

Looks pretty left wing to me.

National Socialism was neither left nor right.

National socialism of the german kind was extreme left wing, which is why so many people were murdered under the totalitarian state.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

So, not only do you not know what Socialism is, but you also don't understand the difference between a Neo-Nazi and an actual Nazi. I feel sorry for your friends and family, since they have to watch you suffer in your attempt to overcome your ineptitude.

In your position, I wouldn't want to admit it, either.

LOL. Pumpkin, some day soon you'll learn the real world is far different than high school. I'm sure it will be a shock to you.

Are you a member or associated with "neo" nazis, white supremacists or any other such groups?

Of course not. Not to say it would matter, as you'd be confused by either one. As far as you're concerned, the Nazis had no policies, and just paraded around, screaming "white power". You can't even tell me their policies. Fopdoodles are truly sad creatures.