It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[flacaltenn]

If you wish to credit Christians as the founders you are citing anti Catholic Protestants. PRIOR to the beginnings of the revolutionary period Catholics (Papists) where the scourge of the earth to the Protestant population of settlers.

The victory in war and the creation of the Constitution written by students of the non Christian EUROPEAN enlightenment allowed Papists to eventually achieve equal status with WASP run America.

Possibly some anti-catholic amongst them. But ALL agreed to the better solution of establishing religious liberty rather than put THEIR biases into any documents. Their ancestors came from Christian sects that largely DONT EXIST anymore because they were fully persecuted in the homelands.

 

[flacaltenn]

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

Examples:
Forcing Christian groups to pay for abortions and birth control for their employees.
Forcing Christian florists, photographers, and bakers to participate in gay weddings.
Distributing condoms in government schools to teens and preteens, suggesting that sex among these immature and obviously unmarried students is morally acceptable.
Using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions abroad.
Banning the Ten Commandments from government buildings (while flying the rainbow flag).
Banning the Nativity Scenes from government buildings.
Government sanction of Kwanzaa celebrations (a made-up racist ‘holiday’).
Disallowing references to Christmas in the public schools.
Teaching Critical Race Theory (which divides people and promotes hate).
Allowing gay marriage.

This is why the left screeches so loudly about “keeping religion out of government”. It’s because they know their atheism gets free reign if it doesn’t have to compete against Christianity.

The solution is two part: First, BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land. Then we end the abortion debate, the race-baiting issue, and the anti-capitalist pro-socialist issue once and for all. The country would once again be following God’s plan, church attendance would rise again, couples would marry instead of cohabitating, the gay marriage ruling would be repealed, families would stay together and be stronger, children would grow up in two-parent homes, so there would be far less crime. And best of all, ALL Marixst atheist disinformation would be stifled, and our children would stop being poisoned by it.

Let’s do it NOW!!

You asked to "Declare" a Christian nation in the OPost. You gave a long list of "grievances" many of which are arguable as to the truth. When a country DECLARES something, there has to be enforcement. And the ENFORCEMENT you suggested not only invalidate "freedom of religion" and the 1st Amendment in total -- but it invalidates MANY OTHER of the Bill Of Rights.

That leaves this proposition arguing for a TOTALITARIAN system of govt with authoritarian agencies and policing that would PUT US in the same state as the N.Korea, Iran and other countries that recently posted were "atheist paradises". Can you JUSTIFY THAT?

Without giving a litany of issues that need to fixed by DEFEATING political extremists, and NOT becoming a nation of extremists?


There are MANY extremist milita groups in the US who have made the SAME kind of "Christian Nation" declaration. FORTUNATELY -- they dont have a 40.000 employee Federal enforcement agency that would NEED TO EXIST to carry out the:

BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land.

Is this like adding another WXYZ Fed Agency called the Dept of Christian Ministry with its OWN armed enforcers?

You need to look at what side your on here and what you're asking for.

 

[Penelope]

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

Examples:
Forcing Christian groups to pay for abortions and birth control for their employees.
Forcing Christian florists, photographers, and bakers to participate in gay weddings.
Distributing condoms in government schools to teens and preteens, suggesting that sex among these immature and obviously unmarried students is morally acceptable.
Using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions abroad.
Banning the Ten Commandments from government buildings (while flying the rainbow flag).
Banning the Nativity Scenes from government buildings.
Government sanction of Kwanzaa celebrations (a made-up racist ‘holiday’).
Disallowing references to Christmas in the public schools.
Teaching Critical Race Theory (which divides people and promotes hate).
Allowing gay marriage.

This is why the left screeches so loudly about “keeping religion out of government”. It’s because they know their atheism gets free reign if it doesn’t have to compete against Christianity.

The solution is two part: First, BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land. Then we end the abortion debate, the race-baiting issue, and the anti-capitalist pro-socialist issue once and for all. The country would once again be following God’s plan, church attendance would rise again, couples would marry instead of cohabitating, the gay marriage ruling would be repealed, families would stay together and be stronger, children would grow up in two-parent homes, so there would be far less crime. And best of all, ALL Marixst atheist disinformation would be stifled, and our children would stop being poisoned by it.

Let’s do it NOW!!

No, its always been a secular country. It will be a fascist theology county is you make it that way

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Possibly some anti-catholic amongst them.

Huhhh?

Protestant clergy fanned the flames. Rev. John Lathrop of the Second Church in Boston said Catholics “had disgraced humanity” and “crimsoned a great part of the world with innocent blood.” Rev. Samuel West of Dartmouth declared the pope to be “the second beast” of Revelation​

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How Anti-Catholicism Helped Fuel the American Revolution

Author of 'Founding Faith'

www.beliefnet.com

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while Joseph Perry warned his Connecticut neighbors that they would soon need to swap “the best religion in the world” for “all the barbarity, trumpery and superstition of popery; or burn at the stake, or submit to the tortures of the inquisition.” And, he reasoned, English lawmakers were being controlled by the devil; the Quebec Act “first sprang from that original wicked politician.”​

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Commenting on anti-Catholic fervor, historian Alan Heimert wrote that there was “a special and even frenetic urgency to their efforts to revive ancient prejudices by announcing that the Quebec Act—and it alone—confronted America with the possibility of the ‘scarlet whore’ soon riding ‘triumphant over the heads of true Protestants, making multitudes drunk with the wine of her fornications.'” The 1774 Pope Day was one of the grandest in years; in Newport, two large effigies of the pope were paraded. In New York, a group marched to the financial Exchange carrying a huge flag inscribed, “George III Rex, and the Liberties of America. No Popery.” Later that day, a pamphlet that had been distributed urging tolerance toward the Catholics of Canada was smeared with tar and feathers and nailed to the pillory.

These views were echoed even by some of our most respected founding fathers. Alexander Hamilton decried the Quebec Act as a diabolical threat. “Does not your blood run cold to think that an English Parliament should pass an Act for the establishment of arbitrary power and Popery in such an extensive country?…Your loves, your property, your religion are all at stake.” He warned that the Canadian tolerance in Quebec would draw, like a magnet, Catholics from throughout Europe who would eventually destroy America.
Sam Adams told a group of Mohawk Indians that the law “to establish the religion of the Pope in Canada” would mean that “some of your children may be induced instead of worshipping the only true God, to pay his dues to images made with their own hands.” The silversmith and engraver Paul Revere created a cartoon for the Royal American Magazine called “The Mitred Minuet.” It depicted four contented-looking mitred Anglican Bishops, dancing a minuet around a copy of the Quebec Act to show their “approbation and countenance of the Roman religion.” Standing nearby are the authors of the Quebec Act, while a Devil with bat ears and spiky wings hovers behind them, whispering instructions.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Possibly some anti-catholic amongst them. But ALL agreed to the better solution of establishing religious liberty rather than put THEIR biases into any documents.

Actually it was the enlightenment framers that held off attempts by the various protestant sects to make the new nation a “Christian” nation Of some sort. The reason the enlightenment won the day Was because the various Christian sects as they usually do, could never agree on which one was going to be the dominant “national” religion. I don’t believe we got our religious freedom and liberty by majority rule in 1780.

Jefferson was considered the enemy of Christianity if elected it was said that he would take away everybody’s Bibles. And then cut out the voodoo parts like he did with his own Bible.

 

[WinterBorn]

You’re disingenuously conflating Atheists, with Leftists…

He has done that since he got here.

In his world, there is no difference between an Atheist, a Leftist, a Socialist and a Communist. He insists that anyone who does not believe in God is an atheist and a socialist.

 

[Stann]

Iran permits abortion.

So Americans would have more freedom in Iran than they were here, at least in that respect. Depending on where you live.

 

[WinterBorn]

In addition to the OP wanting to destroy the US Constitution, it is also obvious it is about him and not the people.

The US population is 46.5% Protestant and 20% Catholic. But he demands that the entire nation follow the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[Stann]

IOW, an idiot.

He seems totally focused on it, to the point of being delusional. He actually thinks this is possible. Maybe he was inspired by, " The Handmaidens Tale ". I hope he realizes that is fiction, and really good fiction because it affected a lot of people, I was cheering for the handmaidens, as I'm sure most normal people were. I was hoping to get a machine gun and mow all those SOBs down.

 

[AsherN]

He has done that since he got here.

In his world, there is no difference between an Atheist, a Leftist, a Socialist and a Communist. He insists that anyone who does not believe in God is an atheist and a socialist.

Anyone who does not follow his interpretation of Catholic doctrine is an atheist

 

[AsherN]

He seems totally focused on it, to the point of being delusional. He actually thinks this is possible. Maybe he was inspired by, " The Handmaidens Tale ". I hope he realizes that is fiction, and really good fiction because it affected a lot of people, I was cheering for the handmaidens, as I'm sure most normal people were. I was hoping to get a machine gun and mow all those SOBs down.

It might have been fiction, but too many people see it as an instruction manual.

 

[Stann]

In addition to the OP wanting to destroy the US Constitution, it is also obvious it is about him and not the people.

The US population is 46.5% Protestant and 20% Catholic. But he demands that the entire nation follow the Roman Catholic Church.

And only 17% of all those Christians are practicing Christians, the rest are Christian and name only, like trump. The absolutely worst example of a Christian ever. I have to change that to second worst Christian ever, I forgot Hitler was a Catholic. Looks like we got a common theme going on. www.theatlantoc.com trump secretly mocks his Christian supporters. September 29th 2020

 

[Stann]

It might have been fiction, but too many people see it as an instruction manual.

They talk about law and order, but I think this Catholic just wants the power over others, and if he's celebrating the repeal of Roe versus Wade, who doesn't care what horrible methods are used to meet his end goals.

 

[Vastator]

I looked that up, it doesn't say that. There were two definitions, a. A boy or girl of any age between infancy and adolescence b. A newborn infant.

From a 1976 Merriam-Websters dictionary…

History- revisionism is a real thing. And the Left loves to change literal definitions, in order to suit their agendas…

 

[Stann]

From a 1976 Merriam-Websters dictionary…View attachment 662984

History- revisionism is a real thing. And the Left loves to change literal definitions, in order to suit their agendas…

The first definition is correct. The second definition is a colloquial expression pregnant women I want a child often refer to it as a child even though it isn't. Children have birth dates, otherwise there would be no distinction between child and fetus. This is the correct term when it's in the womb. Perhaps calling it a child represents

From a 1976 Merriam-Websters dictionary…View attachment 662984

History- revisionism is a real thing. And the Left loves to change literal definitions, in order to suit their agendas…

The first definition is correct. The second definition is a colloquial expression, perhaps expressing the hopes and expectations of women who want children and hopefully fully prepares in all ways; mentally physically and financially prepared for that outcome.

 

[Vastator]

The first definition is correct. The second definition is a colloquial expression pregnant women I want a child often refer to it as a child even though it isn't. Children have birth dates, otherwise there would be no distinction between child and fetus. This is the correct term when it's in the womb. Perhaps calling it a child represents

The first definition is correct. The second definition is a colloquial expression, perhaps expressing the hopes and expectations of women who want children and hopefully fully prepares in all ways; mentally physically and financially prepared for that outcome.

The entirety of it has been deemed correct. And for most of our English speaking history. Revisionism is for leftists.

 

[Stann]

The entirety of it has been deemed correct. And for most of our English speaking history. Revisionism is for leftists.

LOL, right, the far right just made most abortions illegal and a criminal act in their States. And I repeat children and other people have birth dates. At least all people I know of have birthdays.

 

[Stann]

LOL, right, the far right just made most abortions illegal and a criminal act in their States. And I repeat children and other people have birth dates. At least all people I know of have birthdays.

The government does not recognize fetuses. It does recognize children as people ; birth dates make all the difference in the world.

 

[Vastator]

LOL, right, the far right just made most abortions illegal and a criminal act in their States. And I repeat children and other people have birth dates. At least all people I know of have birthdays.

Birthdays are a social, and cultural tradition. Merely a record of an event. Recorded by others. It isn’t a biological function of a human. People, have been peopling far longer in our history without recorded DOBs than they have with…

 

[Stann]

Birthdays are a social, and cultural tradition. Merely a record of an event. Recorded by others. It isn’t a biological function of a human. People, have been peopling far longer in our history without recorded DOBs than they have with…

Try having a life without a birth date, it's not possible. End of story. Perhaps you don't understand what the term means, when you are born your life begins, no one can have a life unless they are born.