It’s Time for an Outright Ban on the Promotion of Atheism.

[WinterBorn]

It's the opposite. Atheism is inherently evil because it is the willful exclusion of God. People, however, are not evil, as they are capable of repenting until their death. Ideas and actions are evil; not people.

"Ideas and actions are evil; not people." And you cannot destroy ideas.

 

[Concerned American]

But what happens when Christians decide that the other faiths do not share you "ultimate goal"?

And we know that those wonderful Christians never oppressed or victimized other religions and non believers--Crusades, Inquisition.

 

[Mashmont]

And the harmful people are usually extremists, they do not represent the rest of the people that they want to represent.

Followers of Jesus' word are not extremists and are in the majority. Atheism is extreme and in the minority.

 

[WinterBorn]

Legal doesn't equal moral. All porn should be banned from public communication. Period.

And, of course, you get to define what is or isn't porn.

 

[Mashmont]

As I said, speak against evil act, but don't drag atheism/atheists into it. We can all speak against child porn without involving a group of people who are equally against child porn as the faithful.

You misunderstood the point, which I already explained in post #1205.

 

[WinterBorn]

OK, so there's another vote favoring porn. Who else?

They did not favor porn. They favored freedom.

 

[WinterBorn]

And another vote for porn dissemination. That's two. Anybody else?

I thought speaking the truth was important for Christians?

Admiral Rockwell Tory did not favor the dissemination of porn. In fact, he did not address porn at all.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That's just it I don't think you'll ever see something promoting abortion. But you will see things promoting women's rights because they are under attack by the far right religious nuts.

Hofare

Mandatory abortion is preferable for sluts who get pregnant just to get an AFDC check for the next 18 years.

 

[Mashmont]

Pedophiles are not heterosexuals and they are not homosexuals. Pedophiles are probably the worst example of sexual perversion. Sexual perversions occur after puberty and are abnormal. Sexual orientation, including heterosexuals homosexuals and bisexuals occurs before puberty and is perfectly normal. If you're going to discuss problems like this you should have a basic knowledge of the subject.

Male pedophiles of boys are homosexual by definition. Even NAMBLA openly states that on their website. I would expect those people would know what they are.

The issue of love between men and boys has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. In the United States, as the gay movement has retreated from its vision of sexual liberation, in favor of integration and assimilation into existing social and political structures

Pederasty and Homosexuality · NAMBLA

Pederasty and Homosexuality · NAMBLA

www.nambla.org

 

[surada]

OK, so there's another vote favoring porn. Who else?

You should live your life according to your beliefs and leave other people alone.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You're simply incorrect. The atheist organizations promote the entire spectrum of the leftwing agenda: LGBT, trans, pro-abortion.

Issues

American Atheists supports evidenced-based public policy that uses science and reason as its guiding principles rather than religious dogma.

www.atheists.org

American Atheists Denounces Supreme Court’s Decision Ending Constitutional Right to Abortion

Washington D.C. — Following the Supreme Court’s 6–3 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization overturning almost 50 years of precedent protecting the constitutional right to abortion, American Atheists president Nick Fish released the following statement: Despite knowing for...

www.atheists.org

Left-Obsessed Atheists Won't Even Mention Ayn Rand's Atheism

The Christofascists who pushed through Prohibition were smart enough not to tag any other issue onto their agenda.

 

[Mashmont]

The ultimate goal of mankind is to serve. That you think it is to get as many into heaven as possible shows your extreme Christian-centric view.

These are one and the same. Serving others and going to Heaven.

And you have continually claimed that declaring the US to be a Christian nation would not harm other religious beliefs and faiths. But what happens when Christians decide that the other faiths do not share you "ultimate goal"?

I've never claimed that. I said our being a Christian nation wouldn't outlaw these other religions. I also said if you're that concerned about other religions, then you would certainly oppose us turning into an atheist state like China or North Korea, which my idea prevents.

 

[Meriweather]

It's the opposite. Atheism is inherently evil because it is the willful exclusion of God. People, however, are not evil, as they are capable of repenting until their death. Ideas and actions are evil; not people.

The willful exclusion of God is a rejection of God. Rejection is not non-belief; by definition it is a belief in God and then rejecting Him.

I hold no belief that gold can be found in my back yard so I don't bother to look for it. If there is gold back there, that is my loss.

I also believe God is within everyone's reach, and to a great extent that is because if God is within my reach, it is the same for everyone. For people who truly believe He is not there...that is their loss. Where you and I disagree is that you probably believe that loss is eternal, while I believe that loss is limited to this life only.

 

[WinterBorn]

These are one and the same. Serving others and going to Heaven.

I've never claimed that. I said our being a Christian nation wouldn't outlaw these other religions. I also said if you're that concerned about other religions, then you would certainly oppose us turning into an atheist state like China or North Korea, which my idea prevents.

I am certainly opposed to turning our country into an atheist state. But, as I have said many times, there is a huge difference between secular and atheist.

In our secular state, elected officials are welcome to their faith. No one in our secular state is stopping you from worshipping and practicing your faith.

By the same token, thanks to our US Constitution, you are not allowed to forbid anyone else from believing (or not believing) as they choose.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And I believe religion is very destructive. But I'm not advocating that it be made illegal. You have too much time on your hands and you're doing the devil's work now.

Christofascists Are Pagans

Also the devil's work is calling a natural disaster an "act of God." Nature is a crime against humanity. It's not sanctified; it's Satanic.

What kind of God would create an overwhelming desire and sadistically connect unwanted pregnancy as one of its natural outcomes? QED.

 

[Mashmont]

So you want the gov't to protect you from things you do not agree with?

So you're all for child porn being openly disseminated?

Atheism is not a destructive force, in and of itself. And don't give me that "Go visit the 5 atheist nations" nonsense.

Of course it is. All godless forces are destructive. You don't like the suggestion you visit the five atheist nations, because you can't counter it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I used porn as an example of something whose dissemination is restricted because it's harmful. This is in response to those bringing up the free speech issue. In that respect dissemination of porn is comparable to the dissemination of atheism.

Go Away. Find a Choir. Preach to It.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And the harmful people are usually extremists, they do not represent the rest of the people that they want to represent.

No Representative Does. Get Rid of the Ruling Class's Constitution.

 

[Mashmont]

I am certainly opposed to turning our country into an atheist state. But, as I have said many times, there is a huge difference between secular and atheist.

In our secular state, elected officials are welcome to their faith. No one in our secular state is stopping you from worshipping and practicing your faith.

By the same token, thanks to our US Constitution, you are not allowed to forbid anyone else from believing (or not believing) as they choose.

For the 1000th time, the legislative body is turning our country into an atheist state, though it is not there yet.

 

[dblack]

For the 1000th time, the legislative body is turning our country into an atheist state, though it is not there yet.

For the 999th time - you're full of shit. And obviously just trolling. Clearly, you crave negative attention.

There's no "debate" going on here. Just you making an ass out of yourself.