Zone1 It's so weird that the left has demonized "traditional" values

I constantly hear leftists use "traditional" anything as some sort of attack, as if it's bad.

What is "traditional" in society? It's merely something that has proven to have worked and produced positive results. It's applying what we have learned from wisdom and experience.. and basically following the scientific method.

We ought to follow many things that have worked and produced good results. Traditional ideas are largely good ideas, because they nearly always cross cultures and withstand the test of time, even if rabid ideologues on the left hold hatred for it as they chase an unattainable utopia.

As we can see, the evidence that the links between left wing radicalism and sexual perversion are strong, especially re pedophilia and homosexual fetishism. The founders of the U.S. ****** rights hoax and its NAMBLA movement were both card carrying Communist Party members and good buddies. Left wing support for faggots and kiddie rapers goes way back. See pages 4 and 5 of this issue of Workers Vanguard, with its ad for articles going back to the early 1980's.

 
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I suspect you would vote for JFK also

Clinton was a depraved man with mommy issues but a reliable wipe-every-nose social justice warrior

Of course he is your kind of guy

JFK otoh was from a previous generation

An alpha male who made sport with many women

But always beautiful, sexy, desirable

BC however was not choosy

His women were far less attractive

Those mommy issues again

I know you would have idolized JFK because he was a great leader

When a conservative repub like myself says so you can believe it

Trump does not measure up to Kennedy

But he is no worse in the morality dept than Kennedy and by far the best leader from all the God forsaken Baby Boomers we have had in the Oval Office
Clearly you're not through worshiping Trump.
 
As we can see, the evidence that the links between left wing radicalism and sexual perversion are strong, especially re pedophilia and homosexual fetishism. The founders of the U.S. ****** rights hoax and its NAMBLA movement were both card carrying Communist Party members and good buddies. Left wing support for faggots and kiddie rapers goes way back. See pages 4 and 5 of this issue of Workers Vanguard, with its ad for articles going back to the early 1980's.

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The Log Cabin Republicans is an organization affiliated with the Republican Party which advocates for equal rights for LGBT+ Americans, by educating the LGBT+ community and Republicans about each other. Wikipedia
Founded: 1977
Headquarters: Washington, D.C.
Affiliations: Republican Party
Chairman: Richard Tisei
 
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The Log Cabin Republicans is an organization affiliated with the Republican Party which advocates for equal rights for LGBT+ Americans, by educating the LGBT+ community and Republicans about each other. Wikipedia
Founded: 1977
Headquarters: Washington, D.C.
Affiliations: Republican Party
Chairman: Richard Tisei

I'm not a Republican, but you have TDS and can't help it. Most Republicans aren't fans of faggots and sexually mutilating kids, while you and all Democrats are.
 
I'm not a Republican, but you have TDS and can't help it. Most Republicans aren't fans of faggots and sexually mutilating kids, while you and all Democrats are.
Prove that I approve or I am a Democrat.
 

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I constantly hear leftists use "traditional" anything as some sort of attack, as if it's bad.

What is "traditional" in society? It's merely something that has proven to have worked and produced positive results. It's applying what we have learned from wisdom and experience.. and basically following the scientific method.

We ought to follow many things that have worked and produced good results. Traditional ideas are largely good ideas, because they nearly always cross cultures and withstand the test of time, even if rabid ideologues on the left hold hatred for it as they chase an unattainable utopia.

Well let's look at america as an overall across its history.

America went from nothing to a major world super power sitting right up at the head of the table in record time. We went from a handful of people on a wooden ship, to being a super power in a few hundred years. Pioneered a lot of the worlds advances and innovations, an average American could take care of his family while getting a new car every 10 years, go on a vacation once a year, put his kids through school and retire, we had relatively low violence the past 100 years and good education, we had a dollar so powerful all the other major nations in the world traded in our money, no one dared invade us because they respected and feared us, and we were a symbol of freedom.

But we're destroying all of that in just less than a decade at the very same time we try to get rid of our morals, values, standards and pride that carried us through over 400 years of consistent progress.

That's as stupid as Oreo saying "we have been the number 1 cookie in America for a long time and it's made us rich and powerful and were still doing great. So I propose we scrap the Oreo recipe and completely change it!"

No. If something has made you successful and continues to make you successful you don't change what you're doing. When you change what works you get what doesn't work.
 
Well let's look at america as an overall across its history.

America went from nothing to a major world super power sitting right up at the head of the table in record time. We went from a handful of people on a wooden ship, to being a super power in a few hundred years. Pioneered a lot of the worlds advances and innovations, an average American could take care of his family while getting a new car every 10 years, go on a vacation once a year, put his kids through school and retire, we had relatively low violence the past 100 years and good education, we had a dollar so powerful all the other major nations in the world traded in our money, no one dared invade us because they respected and feared us, and we were a symbol of freedom.

But we're destroying all of that in just less than a decade at the very same time we try to get rid of our morals, values, standards and pride that carried us through over 400 years of consistent progress.

That's as stupid as Oreo saying "we have been the number 1 cookie in America for a long time and it's made us rich and powerful and were still doing great. So I propose we scrap the Oreo recipe and completely change it!"

No. If something has made you successful and continues to make you successful you don't change what you're doing. When you change what works you get what doesn't work.
Yeah, we used to elect public servants. Then, some rednecks decided that a game show host would make a good president one day. He was a wholesale disaster. The same folks refuse to acknowledge his historic loss, his multiple crimes (34 of whom he has been convicted of), his garbage behavior... Its a pretty sad state of affairs with these people.
 
Slavery was an institution. Not a value.

Segregation was policy. Not a value.

But it was based on the value that there should be separation of the races with white supremcy... that's the whole point.

Wife-beating is a crime.

But it wasn't always. In fact, did you know that they didn't remove the first marital rape law from the books until 1973, and there were still some on the books until 1993.

Those were never values, but you use them to desparage every other value that is good. Like family and faith.

Yet those things were considered part of the values of "Faith and family", until they weren't

America didnt exist until what? 1776? I think your talking about the British colonies. ANYWAY the United States as a nation, allowed slavery for a much shorter period of time than every other country in the world.

Actually, not true. Most countries had a much shorter intrevel between independence and emancipation. For instance, Brazil became independent from Portugal in 1822 and abolished slavery in 1888. And they didn't have to murder a bunch of people to do it.

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We were the first country in the Americas to become independent and one of the last to abolish slavery.
 
Why can't we be more like Hitler's Germany and Mao's China where we take away guns from the people we intend to mass murder?

Why?

2A stands in the way of the Progressive Utopia
The Nazis never took away guns. In fact, they repealed the harsher Weimar gun laws.

And they never overthrew Hitler. They fought for him to the last old man and little boy.
 
You made that up. All you guys pretty much ever do is constantly make things up and tell people how they think.

Slavery, for example was simply practiced all over the world by blacks and whites.

And for long period of history, we all lived in societies where most of the people were the same ethnicity.

Although the glorious Roman Empire was quite diverse. On the other hand, your political Democrat leaders openly have racist ideals, such as the idea that white homeless people are privileged. Now you don’t ever respond with substance to these points you’ll just make something up and go on some weird tangent. Have a good day buddy.

Aw, Fyodor, did they cut your Borscht ration again?

"someone else did it, too!" has never been an excuse for bad behavior
 
I suspect you would vote for JFK also

Clinton was a depraved man with mommy issues but a reliable wipe-every-nose social justice warrior

Of course he is your kind of guy

JFK otoh was from a previous generation

An alpha male who made sport with many women

But always beautiful, sexy, desirable

BC however was not choosy

His women were far less attractive

Those mommy issues again

I know you would have idolized JFK because he was a great leader

When a conservative repub like myself says so you can believe it

Trump does not measure up to Kennedy

But he is no worse in the morality dept than Kennedy and by far the best leader from all the God forsaken Baby Boomers we have had in the Oval Office

Clinton didn't go around telling people that they couldn't have abortions because they make Baby Jesus Cry.

He also admitted what he did was wrong. I can't see Trump admitting he did any woman dirty. He's still lying about Carroll, he's still lying about Daniels.
 
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Clinton didn't go around telling people that they couldn't have abortions because they make Baby Jesus Cry.

He also admitted what he did was wrong. I can't see Trump admitting he did any woman dirty. He's still lying about Carroll, he's still lying about Daniels.
Neither does trump, although many MAGAs could

The fact is that our country believes that innocent life deserves protection

And even lib women normally give birth to human babies, even if they grow up to libs themselves
 
I constantly hear leftists use "traditional" anything as some sort of attack, as if it's bad.

What is "traditional" in society? It's merely something that has proven to have worked and produced positive results. It's applying what we have learned from wisdom and experience.. and basically following the scientific method.

We ought to follow many things that have worked and produced good results. Traditional ideas are largely good ideas, because they nearly always cross cultures and withstand the test of time, even if rabid ideologues on the left hold hatred for it as they chase an unattainable utopia.
No. Test of time is just your opinion. Some traditions still work today and some don't. :dunno:
 
I'm not a Republican, but you have TDS and can't help it. Most Republicans aren't fans of faggots and sexually mutilating kids, while you and all Democrats are.

You're projecting.
 

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