Zone1 It's so weird that the left has demonized "traditional" values

[HikerGuy83]

Slavery was a traditional value.

Slavery was an institution. Not a value.

Segregation was a traditional value.

Segregation was policy. Not a value.

Wife-beating was a traditional value.

Wife-beating is a crime.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

He supports the traditional marriage of adultery.

Adultery isn’t traditional, because its proven to not work well.

Adultery would be “progressive”

 

[Moonglow]

Adultery isn’t traditional, because its proven to not work well.

Adultery would be “progressive”

Donald Trump is a serial adulterer he's very progressive.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Donald Trump is a serial adulterer he's very progressive.

If so, then vote for him, since you're a progressive .

 

[Moonglow]

If so, then vote for him, since you're a progressive .

I would never support a felon running for president.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I would never support a felon running for president.

yet you supported a dementia-stalled president who committed tons of crimes but was absolved by his appointed DOJ.

You'll have to do better than that .

 

[Moonglow]

yet you supported a dementia-stalled president who committed tons of crimes but was absolved by his appointed DOJ.

You'll have to do better than that .

No, I didn't I voted for my cousin Howie Hawkins. I would never vote for an asshole like Biden . You will need to try harder to emotionally support yer progressive cheater

 

[buttercup]

Trump has supported all of that. His mentor Roy Cohn was a homosexual, he lies to the American public nonstop and he has employed illegals since the 1970s when he was hiring Polish illegals.

Yawn, You were raised poorly. Your folks didn't teach you to not lie.

The part about his professional and personal relationship with Roy Cohn is true. Are you denying that?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No, I didn't I voted for my cousin Howie Hawkins. I would never vote for an asshole like Biden . You will need to try harder to emotionally support yer progressive cheater

Are you voting for Harris?

She sucked her way to initial success... then was un-democratically installed as a presidential nominee.. void of the democratic process.

She lies or changes her tune on her race, she changes her talking depending on where she's at... she often sounds like a 5th grader giving a presentation who never studied when she speaks...

I mean.. if you're voting for her, I can sit pretty I'm voting for a much more intelligent, accomplished individual.

 

[Yarddog]

Like Hitler, Mussolini and Franco?

Nationalism is what enabled England to resist an onslaught. If they were a nation of ungrateful synical punks they would never have put up a fight. Same goes for the U.S. at that time. traditionally young americans having grown up on farms, doing back breaking labor and knowing how to shoot a gun at an early age, were able to beat a suppossedly superior and regimented NAZI power when it came to battles such as D-Day.

 

[Yarddog]

Slavery was a traditional value.
Segregation was a traditional value.
Wife-beating was a traditional value.

Those were never values, but you use them to desparage every other value that is good. Like family and faith.

 

[Yarddog]

Not sure how that's possible, as slavery in America started in 1619, and the Democratic Party didn't exist until 1828. but you keep trying, buddy. You keep trying.

America didnt exist until what? 1776? I think your talking about the British colonies. ANYWAY the United States as a nation, allowed slavery for a much shorter period of time than every other country in the world.
Barely 100 years.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I constantly hear leftists use "traditional" anything as some sort of attack, as if it's bad.

I am on your side with regard to the high place of values, especially traditional values.

However, I think the bigger failure is societal and political leaders touting (and more importantly...living) them.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Naw, we think the Bill of Rights is fine, but it's not a suicide pact.

We are fine with you having freedom of speech and the press, but we still have libel and slander laws.

We don't think the Obsolete Militia Amendment is a license for crazy people to own military weapons.

We don't think an ax-murderer should be given a walk because a cop didn't have probable cause when he found the bloody ax and the dead hooker in the killer's trunk.

And yet you don't follow any of that.

 

[HikerGuy83]

America didnt exist until what? 1776? I think your talking about the British colonies. ANYWAY the United States as a nation, allowed slavery for a much shorter period of time than every other country in the world.
Barely 100 years.

And not even in all states for that long.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Well, the whole buzzword of "progressing" sounds super cuddly.. but "progress" to what? Will your theory work? The left doesn't much think about the wisdom part.. they just want to do what makes them feel good, and what they think will work in their gated communities.

Progress towards ruin. But that's to be expected. What is not good is the fact that those who champion these things grow silent.

 

[candycorn]

I constantly hear leftists use "traditional" anything as some sort of attack, as if it's bad.

What is "traditional" in society? It's merely something that has proven to have worked and produced positive results. It's applying what we have learned from wisdom and experience.. and basically following the scientific method.

We ought to follow many things that have worked and produced good results. Traditional ideas are largely good ideas, because they nearly always cross cultures and withstand the test of time, even if rabid ideologues on the left hold hatred for it as they chase an unattainable utopia.

Its probably more weird that you guys think paying hush money to a porn star is "normal".

 

[candycorn]

Those who think government is the highest dictator of morality definitely are the ones who attack. These are the people who hold disdain for the Bill of Rights, because those 10 amendments are above government and can't be touched. That infuriates them to no end. They want to control people in every aspect.

Meanwhile back in reality, your blob asked for complete immunity from the same laws he swore to uphold. Why do you support such a piece of shit?

 

[Mac-7]

Its probably more weird that you guys think paying hush money to a porn star is "normal".

Its not against the law

 

[candycorn]

Its not against the law

Never said it was. I said you guys now say that such a thing is normal. You've lost your moral compass and are rapidly becoming the party of garbage.