It's pretty clear it is the rightwing who is responsible for these ANTIFA hoaxes

[Daryl Hunt]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

 

[Oddball]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Hence the National Scam. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

 

[Oddball]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation. This "rioting" thing is also false. The vast majority of people protesting are doing just that, protesting, not "rioting."

I don't know why a person who pretends to be the president of the United States of America speaks so fondly about statues put up to honor those who fought against the United States. Are we Americans supposed to honor traitors? People like Robert E. Lee have no place in our history and do not represent our American values. Take their statues down. Put in their place statues of Harriet Tubman, Audie Murphy, or my Uncle Jack, who fought in North Africa and Anzio. The confederacy is NOT part of our American history or heritage.

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation.

I'm hard pressed to find anyone on the forum more patently and willingly stupid that rderp, but you give it your all with your every post.

What does the the southern confederacy have anythig to do with me? My family? We are from Europe but we have absolutely nothing to do with the American white south of the slavery days. Do not ever asscociate me or my family with such shit.

What the actual **** are you blabbering about?

Cult45's Playlist for online behavior

#3: Demoralize
Dismiss their narrative as rubbish immediately.
Do not even read it. Once the Liberal goes through the trouble to research, gather, collate, compose and write their narrative your job is to discredit it. Make it obvious you tossed their labor-intensive narrative aside like garbage. This will have the effect of demoralizing the Liberal poster.
It will make them unwilling to expend the effort again, and for us, that is a net win.

 

[esalla]

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

So, even if I wear a pink tutu and play with dolls, that has nothing to do with the question.......

ARE YOU A COMMUNIST ? Do you believe the tenets of Communism are better than other political systems?

Really, why is that so hard to answer for you?

Then you do admit you play with dolls while prancing around in a pink tutu. And you want me to have a serious conversation with you? Hell, I couldn't keep a straight face and type at the same time with you doing that.

You have a problem with pink tutu's?

 

[Oddball]

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation. This "rioting" thing is also false. The vast majority of people protesting are doing just that, protesting, not "rioting."

I don't know why a person who pretends to be the president of the United States of America speaks so fondly about statues put up to honor those who fought against the United States. Are we Americans supposed to honor traitors? People like Robert E. Lee have no place in our history and do not represent our American values. Take their statues down. Put in their place statues of Harriet Tubman, Audie Murphy, or my Uncle Jack, who fought in North Africa and Anzio. The confederacy is NOT part of our American history or heritage.

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation.

I'm hard pressed to find anyone on the forum more patently and willingly stupid that rderp, but you give it your all with your every post.

What does the the southern confederacy have anythig to do with me? My family? We are from Europe but we have absolutely nothing to do with the American white south of the slavery days. Do not ever asscociate me or my family with such shit.

What the actual **** are you blabbering about?

Cult45's Playlist for online behavior

#3: Demoralize
Dismiss their narrative as rubbish immediately.
Do not even read it. Once the Liberal goes through the trouble to research, gather, collate, compose and write their narrative your job is to discredit it. Make it obvious you tossed their labor-intensive narrative aside like garbage. This will have the effect of demoralizing the Liberal poster.
It will make them unwilling to expend the effort again, and for us, that is a net win.

You chumps are already demoralized more than enough....People with high morale don't go around every minute of every day wringing their hands about how much everything sucks.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation. This "rioting" thing is also false. The vast majority of people protesting are doing just that, protesting, not "rioting."

I don't know why a person who pretends to be the president of the United States of America speaks so fondly about statues put up to honor those who fought against the United States. Are we Americans supposed to honor traitors? People like Robert E. Lee have no place in our history and do not represent our American values. Take their statues down. Put in their place statues of Harriet Tubman, Audie Murphy, or my Uncle Jack, who fought in North Africa and Anzio. The confederacy is NOT part of our American history or heritage.

There is no such thing as "antifa." It's a hoax; a false-flag operation.

I'm hard pressed to find anyone on the forum more patently and willingly stupid that rderp, but you give it your all with your every post.

What does the the southern confederacy have anythig to do with me? My family? We are from Europe but we have absolutely nothing to do with the American white south of the slavery days. Do not ever asscociate me or my family with such shit.

What the actual **** are you blabbering about?

Cult45's Playlist for online behavior

#3: Demoralize
Dismiss their narrative as rubbish immediately.
Do not even read it. Once the Liberal goes through the trouble to research, gather, collate, compose and write their narrative your job is to discredit it. Make it obvious you tossed their labor-intensive narrative aside like garbage. This will have the effect of demoralizing the Liberal poster.
It will make them unwilling to expend the effort again, and for us, that is a net win.

You chumps are already demoralized more than enough....People with high morale don't go around every minute of every day wringing their hands about how much everything sucks.

Cult45's Playlist for online behavior

#10: Patriotism
Always claim the high ground of pro-military, low taxes, strong defense, morality and religion. We own those virtues. Learn how to exploit them when debating.

 

[Billy000]

A bunch of Trump supporters got together and decided to protest a social media post calling for ANTIFA's followers to burn an American flag, but the post was a hoax.

Republicans desperately want ANTIFA to be a thing because they need some kind of boogeyman to counter all of the violence and terrorism coming from the rightwing over the years.

An antifa hoax about a 'peaceful flag burning to resist police' riled up right-wing groups in Gettysburg for no reason

Despite local news outlets and independent fact checkers debunking claims of a flag burning planned for July 4th, some protesters still showed up.

www.yahoo.com

White Supremacist Terrorism ‘On The Rise And Spreading’

The State Department has warned about an uptick in racially motivated terrorism.

www.forbes.com

Well Billy at least you know your IQ 000

Billy000 is one stupid ************. No doubt about that.

You chop off any little girls vaginas yet today?

What the absolute ****?

It's a muslim past time

Um no. It’s an African past time.

African muslims yes this is true

Islam has nothing to do with it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

 

[Oddball]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had nothing to do with socialism/communism.....M'kay.

**** my life

 

[esalla]

A bunch of Trump supporters got together and decided to protest a social media post calling for ANTIFA's followers to burn an American flag, but the post was a hoax.

Republicans desperately want ANTIFA to be a thing because they need some kind of boogeyman to counter all of the violence and terrorism coming from the rightwing over the years.

An antifa hoax about a 'peaceful flag burning to resist police' riled up right-wing groups in Gettysburg for no reason

Despite local news outlets and independent fact checkers debunking claims of a flag burning planned for July 4th, some protesters still showed up.

www.yahoo.com

White Supremacist Terrorism ‘On The Rise And Spreading’

The State Department has warned about an uptick in racially motivated terrorism.

www.forbes.com

Well Billy at least you know your IQ 000

Billy000 is one stupid ************. No doubt about that.

You chop off any little girls vaginas yet today?

What the absolute ****?

It's a muslim past time

Um no. It’s an African past time.

African muslims yes this is true

Islam has nothing to do with it.

Wrong as usual

» Religion or Culture?

www.stopfgmmideast.org

 

[Lysistrata]

There is no such thing as "antifa." "

Antifa disagrees.

Antifa is a hoax,

 

[esalla]

There is no such thing as "antifa." "

Antifa disagrees.

Antifa is a hoax,

You mean ANTIFA is a hoax like your IQ

 

[Andylusion]

A bunch of Trump supporters got together and decided to protest a social media post calling for ANTIFA's followers to burn an American flag, but the post was a hoax.

Republicans desperately want ANTIFA to be a thing because they need some kind of boogeyman to counter all of the violence and terrorism coming from the rightwing over the years.

An antifa hoax about a 'peaceful flag burning to resist police' riled up right-wing groups in Gettysburg for no reason

Despite local news outlets and independent fact checkers debunking claims of a flag burning planned for July 4th, some protesters still showed up.

www.yahoo.com

White Supremacist Terrorism ‘On The Rise And Spreading’

The State Department has warned about an uptick in racially motivated terrorism.

www.forbes.com

Yep, who doesn't like a "peaceful" flag burning to go along with the "peaceful" business burnings, "peaceful" rioting, "peaceful" looting and a "peaceful" autonomous zone.

Well none of that has to do with ANTIFA either way.

Will you provide the forum some evidence to back up your unsupported assertion?

Will you provide a logical reasoned argument to back up your unsupported assertion?

It’s stupid for me to try to prove a negative. How would I prove Antifa was NOT involved? See the burden of proof would have to be on Thinker to prove that they were.

Duh. I thought you knew how this logic stuff worked?

I agree with you. You can't prove a negative. The reason we strongly suspect Antifa type involvement is because of two reasons.

One, Antifa has a history of supporting and engaging in violence, as their defacto mode of operation.

Two, Antifa openly and boldly, even proudly proclaims violence as their preferred method of protest.

We're not making this stuff up about Antifa. They openly say... go punch people.

So we're not just randomly making up that Antifa is a pro-violence organization.

It stands to reason for most of us, that when you see violent outbreaks for what is considered 'left-wing' causes, that Antifa is involved.

Now as to the level of involvement... Antifa is largely decentralized, and thus there is no... sort of official position of Antifa. But people who were involved in the violence with Antifa, are now linked to violence with the recent riots and protests, and statue damaging.

 

[Andylusion]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

That's a nice thought. I don't agree with that.

I think where you miss the boat, is that everything in life, is connected to the economic model. Everything is.

How you live, is connected to how, where, and who you spend your money with. How society functions is based on how, where and who you spend money on.

Giving money to the poor, is connected to the economic model.
Giving money to your kids, is connected to the economic model.

There isn't any aspect of live, that is not directly or indirectly, connected to economics.

How you plan to retire. Where you plant to retire. IF you plan to retire. Even what you do as a retirement hobby, is connected to economics.

When I was driving for the pharma company, and delivering medications, they had a wood-working shop at one of the retirement homes, and they built and sold all kinds of things. But they typically made bird houses, because.... those sold. Other wood working knick knacks didn't sell as much. So mostly they made bird houses. So even what they did as a hobby in their retirement years, was connected to the economic model.

The difference between a Capitalist based government, and a Socialist based government, is that just like socialists seek to control the economics that is connected to all aspects of life... Socialist governments seek to control all aspects of life.\

Because they believe that if they can control all aspects of life, then they can force everyone into a mythical utopia that can't exist, where business owners, live the same $50K a year middle income life, that their employees who didn't put in the hard work and effort to build the business, are making.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

That's a nice thought. I don't agree with that.

I think where you miss the boat, is that everything in life, is connected to the economic model. Everything is.

How you live, is connected to how, where, and who you spend your money with. How society functions is based on how, where and who you spend money on.

Giving money to the poor, is connected to the economic model.
Giving money to your kids, is connected to the economic model.

There isn't any aspect of live, that is not directly or indirectly, connected to economics.

How you plan to retire. Where you plant to retire. IF you plan to retire. Even what you do as a retirement hobby, is connected to economics.

When I was driving for the pharma company, and delivering medications, they had a wood-working shop at one of the retirement homes, and they built and sold all kinds of things. But they typically made bird houses, because.... those sold. Other wood working knick knacks didn't sell as much. So mostly they made bird houses. So even what they did as a hobby in their retirement years, was connected to the economic model.

The difference between a Capitalist based government, and a Socialist based government, is that just like socialists seek to control the economics that is connected to all aspects of life... Socialist governments seek to control all aspects of life.\

Because they believe that if they can control all aspects of life, then they can force everyone into a mythical utopia that can't exist, where business owners, live the same $50K a year middle income life, that their employees who didn't put in the hard work and effort to build the business, are making.

Big Businesses that used to support the democratic party now support the republican party. And with Rump in office, the Big Business has garnered the lions share of the benefits. I suggest you learn your own parties History. You may be shocked. I do not support the Democratic Party in any way. But I do support sending Rump to Prison, breaking up his ill gotten gains and more. That is what he looks forward to with a loss in November. If Biden loses, he just goes home.

I don't support Biden either. But if that's what it takes to send Rump packing, that's what we must do. And then rebuild the Republican Party back to the "I Like Ike" days.

 

[Andylusion]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

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Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

That's a nice thought. I don't agree with that.

I think where you miss the boat, is that everything in life, is connected to the economic model. Everything is.

How you live, is connected to how, where, and who you spend your money with. How society functions is based on how, where and who you spend money on.

Giving money to the poor, is connected to the economic model.
Giving money to your kids, is connected to the economic model.

There isn't any aspect of live, that is not directly or indirectly, connected to economics.

How you plan to retire. Where you plant to retire. IF you plan to retire. Even what you do as a retirement hobby, is connected to economics.

When I was driving for the pharma company, and delivering medications, they had a wood-working shop at one of the retirement homes, and they built and sold all kinds of things. But they typically made bird houses, because.... those sold. Other wood working knick knacks didn't sell as much. So mostly they made bird houses. So even what they did as a hobby in their retirement years, was connected to the economic model.

The difference between a Capitalist based government, and a Socialist based government, is that just like socialists seek to control the economics that is connected to all aspects of life... Socialist governments seek to control all aspects of life.\

Because they believe that if they can control all aspects of life, then they can force everyone into a mythical utopia that can't exist, where business owners, live the same $50K a year middle income life, that their employees who didn't put in the hard work and effort to build the business, are making.

Big Businesses that used to support the democratic party now support the republican party. And with Rump in office, the Big Business has garnered the lions share of the benefits. I suggest you learn your own parties History. You may be shocked. I do not support the Democratic Party in any way. But I do support sending Rump to Prison, breaking up his ill gotten gains and more. That is what he looks forward to with a loss in November. If Biden loses, he just goes home.

I don't support Biden either. But if that's what it takes to send Rump packing, that's what we must do. And then rebuild the Republican Party back to the "I Like Ike" days.

Well yes. That's true. It's just like how the police unions used to support Democrats. Well look how that turned out?

They fed the beasts, and the beasts started tearing them apart. Now police unions hate democrats, and rightly so.

Same with big business.

Just look at Cuomo and the business leaders in New York. They voted for and supported that horrifically bad Cuomo, and then he turned right around and supported rent control

Nearly 250,000 NYC rental apartments sit vacant | 6sqft

Early numbers from the Census Bureau’s Housing and Vacancy Survey show unoccupied apartments in NYC have grown 35 percent since 2014.

www.6sqft.com

So now in a city with a critical number of people looking for places the live, over 250,000 apartments are empty year round.

Brilliant move Cuomo. Brilliant.

Gee, I wonder why the business leaders in NYC hate Cuomo? Why could that be?

Left-wingers consistently, and universally destroy the people that support them. Venezuela is not a fluke. It is par for the course. Goes all the way back to Stalin who had show trials and executions for the people that put him in power.

Left-wingers in this country, are no different. Why do think the Black community has voted so strongly in favor of Democrats for decades on end, and are by any measure, worse off today?

Racial tensions, and hate groups, are larger today than at any time in decades, before even Nixion. And this is after they had the first Black Democrat president.

More blacks are killed year over year since 2012 at least. They are worse off now, than in decades. This is why black conservatives are on the rise across the entire nation.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

A bunch of Trump supporters got together and decided to protest a social media post calling for ANTIFA's followers to burn an American flag, but the post was a hoax.

Republicans desperately want ANTIFA to be a thing because they need some kind of boogeyman to counter all of the violence and terrorism coming from the rightwing over the years.

An antifa hoax about a 'peaceful flag burning to resist police' riled up right-wing groups in Gettysburg for no reason

Despite local news outlets and independent fact checkers debunking claims of a flag burning planned for July 4th, some protesters still showed up.

www.yahoo.com

White Supremacist Terrorism ‘On The Rise And Spreading’

The State Department has warned about an uptick in racially motivated terrorism.

www.forbes.com

Here is nteh boogeyman taking one to the nuts:

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And what have YOU done for America so far? I invested over 20 years in the US Military. I sometimes work with local elected officials to correct something when I think it matters. I take care of my elderly and sick neighbors when they need help. When the new Management took over for the Neighborhood that had some pretty nutty ideas, I am the one that hired the lawyer who bot those ideas bounced. The Management thought that they could do anything they wanted and no one had the funds to fight it. They were wrong.

I was asked why I do these things? I responded with "They pissed me off". In reality, it's paying to be an American. You are nothing but a freeloader. And since you live off of others efforts, guess what, that fits your own definition of a Communist.

You have yet to deny you are a Communist......As far as I know, the US military doesn't take Communist enlistments.
If you are not a Communist then just say so

There isn't, never has been, nor will there ever be a Communist Country. I think you are just trying to cover up the fact you like to play with dolls while you are strutting around in your pink tutu. Comon, admit it, you'll feel better.

View attachment 359792

Don't you find it strange that wanting setup a State that is Stateless probably means that there is a scam in there somewhere that a person or group will end up benefiting you will just get screwed in the end?

Irrelevant to you invocation of the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Beside that, communism isn't the absence of The State...In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Then you get either a Totalitarian or a Dictatorship. Communism cannot exist in groups much larger than a gathering of 10 people.

Communism is totalitarian dictatorship, whether it's ten people or ten billion.

If you read what Karl Marx put out, you would see that it isn't. Karl Marx want Commune type existence. Hence the name Communism. It was a utopian society that could not exist.

Lenin put the word Socialist in the name of USSR but it wasn't really anything to do with socialism. It was a Totalitarian Government setup to take over the world and THEN establish Karl Marx's perfect world. At least that was the orginating idea. But considering the original Marx Idea was a failure, it wouldn't have worked anyway. And for the next 70 or 80 years, this mess was left in place. It's still in place but it's gone through the Dictator and back to the Totalitarian system once again. It's not socialism at all. It only exists to make more power for a select group of people and to give the great wealthy.

Hitler took a Democratic Socialist Country (like most of the EU is right now) and changed it. He used the teachings of Mussolini who had successfully done that in Italy. Hitler was a devout follower of Mussolini's teaching of Fascism. But, unlike Mussolini, Hitler couldn't put that in the name of the newly formed government so he did what Lenin did and stuck in the term Socialist. But in the end, it became a total Dictatorship much like Stalin. Both started at the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way things work, things are in a circle and both sides met at the Dictatorship and the absolute hatred for each other.

There can be NO Socialist Government either. Socialism, like Capitalism, is an economic model. In fact, the reason you can't have either a Socialist or a Capitalist Government is because you need both once you reach a certain size. It's the Yen and the Yang.

That's a nice thought. I don't agree with that.

I think where you miss the boat, is that everything in life, is connected to the economic model. Everything is.

How you live, is connected to how, where, and who you spend your money with. How society functions is based on how, where and who you spend money on.

Giving money to the poor, is connected to the economic model.
Giving money to your kids, is connected to the economic model.

There isn't any aspect of live, that is not directly or indirectly, connected to economics.

How you plan to retire. Where you plant to retire. IF you plan to retire. Even what you do as a retirement hobby, is connected to economics.

When I was driving for the pharma company, and delivering medications, they had a wood-working shop at one of the retirement homes, and they built and sold all kinds of things. But they typically made bird houses, because.... those sold. Other wood working knick knacks didn't sell as much. So mostly they made bird houses. So even what they did as a hobby in their retirement years, was connected to the economic model.

The difference between a Capitalist based government, and a Socialist based government, is that just like socialists seek to control the economics that is connected to all aspects of life... Socialist governments seek to control all aspects of life.\

Because they believe that if they can control all aspects of life, then they can force everyone into a mythical utopia that can't exist, where business owners, live the same $50K a year middle income life, that their employees who didn't put in the hard work and effort to build the business, are making.

Big Businesses that used to support the democratic party now support the republican party. And with Rump in office, the Big Business has garnered the lions share of the benefits. I suggest you learn your own parties History. You may be shocked. I do not support the Democratic Party in any way. But I do support sending Rump to Prison, breaking up his ill gotten gains and more. That is what he looks forward to with a loss in November. If Biden loses, he just goes home.

I don't support Biden either. But if that's what it takes to send Rump packing, that's what we must do. And then rebuild the Republican Party back to the "I Like Ike" days.

Well yes. That's true. It's just like how the police unions used to support Democrats. Well look how that turned out?

They fed the beasts, and the beasts started tearing them apart. Now police unions hate democrats, and rightly so.

Same with big business.

Just look at Cuomo and the business leaders in New York. They voted for and supported that horrifically bad Cuomo, and then he turned right around and supported rent control

Nearly 250,000 NYC rental apartments sit vacant | 6sqft

Early numbers from the Census Bureau’s Housing and Vacancy Survey show unoccupied apartments in NYC have grown 35 percent since 2014.

www.6sqft.com

So now in a city with a critical number of people looking for places the live, over 250,000 apartments are empty year round.

Brilliant move Cuomo. Brilliant.

Gee, I wonder why the business leaders in NYC hate Cuomo? Why could that be?

Left-wingers consistently, and universally destroy the people that support them. Venezuela is not a fluke. It is par for the course. Goes all the way back to Stalin who had show trials and executions for the people that put him in power.

Left-wingers in this country, are no different. Why do think the Black community has voted so strongly in favor of Democrats for decades on end, and are by any measure, worse off today?

Racial tensions, and hate groups, are larger today than at any time in decades, before even Nixion. And this is after they had the first Black Democrat president.

More blacks are killed year over year since 2012 at least. They are worse off now, than in decades. This is why black conservatives are on the rise across the entire nation.

Well then, cupcake, why are these incompetents running apposed? Where is the Republican alternative? You want it fixed or do just want to cry in your beer?