It's Over. The Vaccines Have Failed.

[alang1216]

Yes. You go everywhere totally unaware of who has had what vaccine or not. So my question stands, do people take vaccines to protect themselves from a virus, or do they take it to protect themselves from others?

Now this isn't rocket science, you take a polio, smallpox, covid etc.. vaccine to protect you from polio, smallpox and covid etc.. Whatever anyone else does, is of no consequence.

If you went shopping, do you phone the store in advance to make sure every customer has had a polio, smallpox, covid vaccine etc..?

If vaccines were 100% effective you might be right, they are not. The best I've seen is 95%.

 

[Rigby5]

If vaccines were 100% effective you might be right, they are not. The best I've seen is 95%.

Vaccines that are only 95% effective still work to prevent any serious case.
These mRNA injections do not help at all after 6 months, and possibly even make the covid infection worse.
They are not remotely at all like a vaccine, because they don't contain an inert pathogen, so there is nothing for the immune system to remember and later trigger on.

 

[Rigby5]

I was referring to the smallpox vax. It has a 100 year history, is that enough? What about 50 years of data? If the mRNA vaccines prove safe and effective over the next 100 years you'd still refuse it?

But the mRNA vaccines can not possibly ever work or be safe.
They violate all the normal rules.
And they have already proven how bad they are over the last 16 months.

 

[Rigby5]

Says you?

Salk did clinical trials for over 6 years.
He started working on his polio vaccine in 1948 and did not have it read for the public until 1957.
In contrast, the mRNA by Pfizer and Moderna did the whole process in less than 1 year, and only had a few months of testing.

 

[Rigby5]

Nah, you're just pulling stuff out of your ass.

No, China is doing much better.
There are 2 common strategies that end any epidemic very quickly.
One is to accelerate the spread so that herd immunity is achieved and it ends.
Two is to do full quarantine so that it can't get new hosts and it ends.

China has done the number two, and it is effective.
The only problem is it is also very expensive and invasive.

 

[Redfish]

Does 'most' include Fox, OAN, Breitbart, WSJ, NY Post, etc.

sometimes on some topics. why was OAN pulled from most cable services?

 

[Redfish]

Haha

The evidence doesn't support your cult fantasies

Therefore the evidence is fake

Cultism on parade

so if I post data showing that man is not causing climate change, and it comes from a reputable source, you will accept it and change your position? that's exactly what you are asking me to do.

 

[Mac1958]

Ironic, that is exactly what I was going to say to you: you are totally indoctrinated by the lying media.

Another example of how MAGA media has created a cult that is even Trumpier than their beloved leader. They're jihadis, holy warriors.

He and his disciples have created a monster, so now in DC and the states, the race is on to be as insane as possible.

 

[alang1216]

But the mRNA vaccines can not possibly ever work or be safe.
They violate all the normal rules.

Rules are 'normal' only until they aren't.

And they have already proven how bad they are over the last 16 months.

How so?

 

[alang1216]

Vaccines that are only 95% effective still work to prevent any serious case.
These mRNA injections do not help at all after 6 months, and possibly even make the covid infection worse.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

They are not remotely at all like a vaccine, because they don't contain an inert pathogen, so there is nothing for the immune system to remember and later trigger on.

Actually they are exactly like all other vaccines, the only difference is that the mRNA causes cells to make their own inert pathogen proteins.

 

[alang1216]

Salk did clinical trials for over 6 years.
He started working on his polio vaccine in 1948 and did not have it read for the public until 1957.
In contrast, the mRNA by Pfizer and Moderna did the whole process in less than 1 year, and only had a few months of testing.

And who is saying that a year is too short a time? BTW, how many people contracted polio in those years?

 

[alang1216]

sometimes on some topics. why was OAN pulled from most cable services?

You'll have to ask the cable services, maybe there was no money to be made. Maybe they were afraid of being sued for broadcasting not OAN opinions but OAN lies?

 

[Redfish]

You'll have to ask the cable services, maybe there was no money to be made. Maybe they were afraid of being sued for broadcasting not OAN opinions but OAN lies?

LOL, your indoctrination in left wing bullshit is complete. you are totally incapable of thinking for yourself. But since you made the allegation, give us a list of the lies told on OAN, then I will provide a list of lies told by the left wing media, the democrats, Biden, Clinton, Obozo, and all the rest of the dem/lib liars.

 

[alang1216]

LOL, your indoctrination in left wing bullshit is complete. you are totally incapable of thinking for yourself. But since you made the allegation, give us a list of the lies told on OAN, then I will provide a list of lies told by the left wing media, the democrats, Biden, Clinton, Obozo, and all the rest of the dem/lib liars.

OAN admits ‘no widespread voter fraud’ by election workers after settling defamation lawsuit

 

[Redfish]

OAN admits ‘no widespread voter fraud’ by election workers after settling defamation lawsuit

ok, then why did the cable networks drop them if they are on your "side"?

the vote fraud of 2020 is clear, proven, and easy to understand. Will anything be done? probably not because all of DC is scared shitless of Trump because they know that he will expose their corruption.

 

[alang1216]

ok, then why did the cable networks drop them if they are on your "side"?

Maybe election fraud is not their only potential liability?

the vote fraud of 2020 is clear, proven, and easy to understand.

Nope. It is imaginary and unfounded.

Will anything be done? probably not because all of DC is scared shitless of Trump because they know that he will expose their corruption.

Trump tried but never made a case for fraud in 60 or so tries. Maybe the next time will be different.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Only 6 more COVID boosters till Christmas

 

[Rigby5]

Rules are 'normal' only until they aren't.


How so?

The rules are based on how the immune system works and how coronaviruses work.
The immune system stores long term immunity memory in the DNA of T-cells in our bone marrow.
To store info about any particular pathogen, the immune system has to store information it derives from the dead pathogens.
Since the mRNA injections have no dead pathogen, there is nothing the immune system can store.
If you were to say that the mRNA injections cause spike proteins to be grown by our own cells, that does not help at all because our own exosomes use the same spike protein, so the immune system can NEVER trigger on that, and if the immune system ever did trigger on spike proteins, then we would have a fatal autoimmune disease because our own exosomes use the same spike protein.

The mRNA vaccines have proven how badly they do not work over the last 16 months because those vaccinated are still getting infected and spreading the virus even more than those not vaccinated. The only advantages of the vaccine are very temporary. Good for less than 6 months. So are even worse than no vaccine at al, because they again prevent herd immunity by causing a 6 month delay.

 

[Rigby5]

The perfect is the enemy of the good.


Actually they are exactly like all other vaccines, the only difference is that the mRNA causes cells to make their own inert pathogen proteins.

Wrong.
The spike protein is NOT a pathogen protein but instead the pathogen is mimicking the spike proteins of our own exosomes.
And since it would be fatal for our immune system to start attacking the spike protein of our own exosomes, there is NOTHING in the mRNA injections for the immune system to remember, at all.
Understand this simple fact.
Exosomes are how the body and other cells communicate with any particular cell.
Exosome are let into cells by the exosome inserting its spike protein into an ACE2 receptor in a particular cell.
Coronaviruses mimic the exact same spike proteins, in order to sneak into our ACE2 receptors.
So there is no way for the immune system to start attacking spike proteins without killing us.
Coronaviruses are not the original source of spike proteins, our own exosomes are.

 

[Rigby5]

And who is saying that a year is too short a time? BTW, how many people contracted polio in those years?

Everyone should be saying the 6 months of mRNA testing was too short bcause it obviously is NOT at all working.
And in fact has about 10 times higher rate of deadly side effects, compared to any other vaccine.
We also now know the slight positive effect from the mRNA vaccines, go away entirely in less tan 6 months.