It's Official: America misses Biden (51% say Trump & Economy is worse - Harris Poll)

[my2¢]

Over the years the Democrats and Republicans have offered up some lousy candidates. These last 3 presidential elections they've hit rock bottom.

 

[citygator]

There are also illegals who are gone and some worked. We have an expanding economy even with a slightly higher unemployment rate. I do expect prices to fall or stay the same at some point. One thing though. We have two versions on how to grow the economy. There is a changeover to do this.

The economy has not changed trajectory yet. It hasnt turned better for sure. I wouldnt say it has been MUCH worse yet but the signs like unemployment, consumer spending, corporate investment, gold prices, and inflation are all slightly getting worse and worrisome.

You phuked things up with oil while passing legislation for trillions and trillions of dollars that did to do much at all for its purpose. That gasoline increase was trauma.

U.S. oil production reached record highs under President Biden, exceeding levels seen during the Trump administration with averages around 12.2-13.2 million barrels per day (BPD) and hitting all-time monthly peaks, driven by factors like drilling on public lands, private investment, and global energy needs.

Oil prices went up under Biden because Trump negotiated lower OPEC outputs in his last year in office.

You dont really care about nuance and details though.

 

[pknopp]

Well, it wouldn't have been Biden anyway, since he didn't run in 2024 general election.

But the Trump economy and his "affordability hoax" has caught the attention of off year voters.

This is a case where Biden/Harris was like an airplane on auto-pilot.
Where Trump decided he wanted to fly the plane, and promptly put the plane into a tail spin.

Biden/Harris gave us billions for stupid useless wars while people here continued to pay rent and afford health care.

I do not support auto pilot.

The only war under Biden/Harris was the one he ended in Afghanistan.

Now Trump is threatening to or has invaded Panama, Greenland, Iran, Syria, Venezuela and Cuba.

You are as delusional as MAGA.

 

[pknopp]

Unemployment down.
GDP up....5.4%
Stock market at record highs.
Low inflation


What economic metric is worse now than when your Vegetable Messiah left office, Simp?

Will you ever quit trying to defend Biden?

 

[AntonToo]

So you say. One thing is an absolute fact. We wouldn't have ~300 billion dollars collected in the government coffers. If all that money was used to provide tax relief, a family of 4 would get back about $3500 in federal taxes while the government maintained the same level of spending.

Wrong.

It's ~$240 billion total in 2025 calendar year with ~$80 billion as prior baseline

So we are talking about additional ~$160 billion from new Trump tariffs...which was blown on BBB already.

 

[jc456]

The only war under Biden/Harris was the one he ended in Afghanistan.

Now Trump is threatening to or has invaded Panama, Greenland, Iran, Syria, Venezuela and Cuba.

How many troops?

 

[Blisterfinger]

Harvard-Harris is one of the more conservative polling firms. (I know the word Havard confuses you.)

Least he can ******* spell it idiot

 

[Rawley]

Voters are not exactly giving Trump or his economy an A+++++ grade. A majority of US voters and more importantly most independents think Biden was a better president and had a better economy than Trump. Blue collar jobs shrunk last year, job openings plummeted, tariff nonsense, prices are still going up and Trump is running around bulldozing buildings, renaming things and creating havoc in the world. The results are undeniable. America misses Biden... lol. Who would have predicted that?

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Majority say economy worse off under Trump than Biden

New poll finds shift in voter assessments of presidential performance and economic stewardship heading into the 2026 midterms.

www.newsweek.com

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You should definitely run Biden again.

 

[Mac-7]

Voters are not exactly giving Trump or his economy an A+++++ grade. A majority of US voters and more importantly most independents think Biden was a better president and had a better economy than Trump. Blue collar jobs shrunk last year, job openings plummeted, tariff nonsense, prices are still going up and Trump is running around bulldozing buildings, renaming things and creating havoc in the world. The results are undeniable. America misses Biden... lol. Who would have predicted that?

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Majority say economy worse off under Trump than Biden

New poll finds shift in voter assessments of presidential performance and economic stewardship heading into the 2026 midterms.

www.newsweek.com

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The punchline of the joke is that the economy is not worse

Its getting better even if hundreds of carefully selected libs that took the survey do not know it

 

[Unkotare]

 

[Old Rocks]

You really think voters miss this?

 

[Old Rocks]

The punchline of the joke is that the economy is not worse

Its getting better even if hundreds of carefully selected libs that took the survey do not know it

Since January 2025, approximately 78,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost, with a total of 33,000 jobs lost in the manufacturing sector reported for the year[^^6^^].

Overview​

• Total Job Losses: As of August 2025, the manufacturing sector has experienced a decline of about 78,000 jobs since the beginning of the year.
  
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• Recent Trends: In August alone, 12,000 manufacturing jobs were lost, continuing a downward trend in the sector [^^6^^].
• Cumulative Losses: Overall, the manufacturing employment in the U.S. has decreased by 33,000 jobs throughout 2025, reflecting ongoing challenges in the industry.
  
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• 1.17 million
  The total number of US jobs lost since January 2025 is over 1.17 million as of November 2025. This figure represents a 54% increase from the previous year and is the highest level of job cuts since the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic. The job cuts have been concentrated in various sectors, including technology, retail, and government, driven by factors such as artificial intelligence and federal budget cuts.
  
  The Hill+1

 

[Old Rocks]

It's Official: America misses Biden​

Don't tell Biden, he still doesn't know he left.

What I have seen of Biden at present, he is in far better mental shape than Trump. At least he can complete a sentence. And Biden is not a 34 count convicted felon.

 

[Mac-7]

Since January 2025, approximately 78,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost, with a total of 33,000 jobs lost in the manufacturing sector reported for the year[^^6^^].

Overview​

• Total Job Losses: As of August 2025, the manufacturing sector has experienced a decline of about 78,000 jobs since the beginning of the year.
  
  1
• Recent Trends: In August alone, 12,000 manufacturing jobs were lost, continuing a downward trend in the sector [^^6^^].
• Cumulative Losses: Overall, the manufacturing employment in the U.S. has decreased by 33,000 jobs throughout 2025, reflecting ongoing challenges in the industry.
  
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• 1.17 million
  The total number of US jobs lost since January 2025 is over 1.17 million as of November 2025. This figure represents a 54% increase from the previous year and is the highest level of job cuts since the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic. The job cuts have been concentrated in various sectors, including technology, retail, and government, driven by factors such as artificial intelligence and federal budget cuts.
  
  The Hill+1

Two points:

America has been losing manufacturing jobs for decades thanks to cheap chinese imports

It didnt happen overnight and there is no easy fix

But it can be fixed if people like you are willing to give stop surrendering to china

Second, according to the report up to 1/3 of the finish product contains imported parts

Auto’s used to be 100% American made and Americans still bought them

This is mostly a matter of will combined with long-term thinking

We (even you) can do it if we try

 

[citygator]

The punchline of the joke is that the economy is not worse

Its getting better even if hundreds of carefully selected libs that took the survey do not know it

How rich did you get in the last year and how did it happen? Did you win a scratch off?

 

[Unkotare]

Two points:

America has been losing manufacturing jobs for decades thanks to cheap chinese imports

It didnt happen overnight and there is no easy fix

But it can be fixed if people like you are willing to give stop surrendering to china

Second, according to the report up to 1/3 of the finish product contains imported parts

Auto’s used to be 100% American made and Americans still bought them

This is mostly a matter of will combined with long-term thinking

We (even you) can do it if we try

Just wait until Chinese electric vehicles hit the market...

 

[Mac-7]

How rich did you get in the last year and how did it happen? Did you win a scratch off?

I know libs think they have to play the lottery go get ahead

But hard work and smart life choices are a better investment in your future

 

[citygator]

Two points:

America has been losing manufacturing jobs for decades thanks to cheap chinese imports

It didnt happen overnight and there is no easy fix

But it can be fixed if people like you are willing to give stop surrendering to china

Second, according to the report up to 1/3 of the finish product contains imported parts

Auto’s used to be 100% American made and Americans still bought them

This is mostly a matter of will combined with long-term thinking

We (even you) can do it if we try

We added manufacturing jobs under Biden an had the most since 2008 under Joe.

This steep downturn in investing in manufacturing and job losses happened under Trump.

 

[Unkotare]

I know libs think they have to play the lottery go get ahead

But hard work and smart life choices are a better investment in your future

Nothing worse than getting stuck behind some jackwagon who thinks he's got a "system" and parks his ass at the checkout for about an hour at the packie picking out his scratch tickets.

 

[Mac-7]

Just wait until Chinese electric vehicles hit the market...

Transshipped through canada?

I prefer trump’s idea of building and selling Japanese Kei cars in America

They run on gasoline and dont fall apart or burst into flames like chicom firebombs do