It's about time it was said

[DiveCon]

Your claim, your burden

the only one that isnt an out right lie is #3

relative to the status quo in iraq today, all three points are accurate.

no, they are not
how could you give Saddam credit for not killing Shia and Kurds when he was
and the fact that saddam did support radical terrorists in Iraq

 

[hortysir]

I'm still reeling from Maineman dedicating (how many) posts in defense of Saddam

 

[DiveCon]

I'm still reeling from Maineman dedicating (how many) posts in defense of Saddam

who was that dipshit actor that went to Iraq to be a human shield for Saddam?
the one that came back shocked that Saddam wanted him on military bases
LOL

 

[DiveCon]

and funny how Saddam was this nice guy that we found arms in schools, hospitals and Mosques because he knew we wouldn't target them

 

[hortysir]

Sean Penn, if I remember right

 

[DiveCon]

Sean Penn, if I remember right

yeah, HIM

what a total moron
LOL

 

[elvis]

Sean Penn, if I remember right

yeah, HIM

what a total moron
LOL

how the hell did he get Madonna?

 

[hortysir]

he has a dick and a pulse

 

[DiveCon]

Sean Penn, if I remember right

yeah, HIM

what a total moron
LOL

how the hell did he get Madonna?

he has a dick and a pulse

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol

 

[elvis]

he has a dick and a pulse

yeah but to pollute herself with that...

he's 10 times lower than Rodman.

 

[hortysir]

he has a dick and a pulse

yeah but to pollute herself with that...

he's 10 times lower than Rodman.

Pretty damned close tie, IMO

 

[maineman]

That doesn't negate who Zarqawi was (al Qaeda) where he was before we invaded Afghanistan (Afghanistan) and where he went after his camp was routed (Iraq) before we invaded Iraq. It doesn't matter if Saddam harbored him or simply couldn't stop al Qaeda from setting up a base of operations there. The results would have been the same, Al Qaeda in Iraq.

We fought Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and followed them to Iraq. What's so difficult to understand about that?

except you got your timing wrong. Zarqawi was NOT part of AQ until AFTER he came to Iraq and until AFTER we invaded. AQ in Iraq was a home grown group of Iraqis angry at the US for invading their country, and Zarqawi became their leader.

What information do you have that contradicts this?



PWHCE Middle East Project: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Profile

Kurdish connection

The next stop on his itinerary was his old stamping ground - Afghanistan.

He is believed to have set up a training camp in the western city of Herat, near the border with Iran.

Students at his camp supposedly became experts in the manufacture and use of poison gases.

It is during this period that Zarqawi is thought to have renewed his acquaintance with al-Qaeda.

He is believed to have fled to Iraq in 2001 after a US missile strike on his Afghan base, though the report that he lost a leg in the attack has not been verified.

US officials argue that it was at al-Qaeda's behest that he moved to Iraq and established links with Ansar al-Islam - a group of Kurdish Islamists from the north of the country.

He is thought to have remained with them for a while - feeling at home in mountainous northern Iraq.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Profile: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

Between Sept. 11, 2001, and the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, Zarqawi is believed to fled U.S. bombing in Afghanistan, traveled through Iran and sought medical treatment in Baghdad, Iraq between May and July 2002. He may have also gone to Syria and Palestine at some point.

Several associates also arrived in Iraq during his stay in Baghdad. Some remained until at least February 2003.

Around May 2002, a Kurdish militant group, Ansar al-Islam, built a explosives and poisons training camp in northern Iraq, in a region outside of Saddam's control. Associates of Zarqawi were said to be running this camp.

He is believed to have orchestrated the killing of American diplomat Lawrence Foley on Oct. 28, 2002.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

nothing in what you posted contradicts what I said.

 

[DiveCon]

he has a dick and a pulse

yeah but to pollute herself with that...

he's 10 times lower than Rodman.

you are acting as if she actually had higher standards

 

[maineman]

you are completely WRONG
but i doubt you would ever admit it
Saddam was Sunni and he was systematically killing both Shia and kurd
yes, he had killed MORE back in the 80's but to say he wasnt still killing them if a ******* despicable LIE

go back and re read my three points... and then, show me where I am wrong with any ot them.

1. He kept sunnis and shiites from slaughtering one another. THAT IS A FACT
2. He kept Islamic extremists from using his country as a haven. THAT IS A FACT
3. He acted as an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony. THAT IS A FACT

disprove them or STFU.

NO, those are OPINIONS
2 of which are WRONG on the facts

and i already HAVE disproven them, so YOU STFU

show me some links that would recount sunnis and shiites slaughtering one another during the reign of Saddam.

show me where any region of Iraq that was under Saddam's control was EVER used as a haven for Islamic extremists.

show me any evidence that Saddam was NOT an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony.

oh... do you even know what the word hegemony means? maybe THAT is what has you confused!

I won't hold my breath.

 

[DiveCon]

go back and re read my three points... and then, show me where I am wrong with any ot them.

1. He kept sunnis and shiites from slaughtering one another. THAT IS A FACT
2. He kept Islamic extremists from using his country as a haven. THAT IS A FACT
3. He acted as an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony. THAT IS A FACT

disprove them or STFU.

NO, those are OPINIONS
2 of which are WRONG on the facts

and i already HAVE disproven them, so YOU STFU

show me some links that would recount sunnis and shiites slaughtering one another during the reign of Saddam.

show me where any region of Iraq that was under Saddam's control was EVER used as a haven for Islamic extremists.

show me any evidence that Saddam was NOT an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony.

oh... do you even know what the word hegemony means? maybe THAT is what has you confused!

I won't hold my breath.

you are blind to the facts
i wont waste my time looking for them

 

[maineman]

NO, those are OPINIONS
2 of which are WRONG on the facts

and i already HAVE disproven them, so YOU STFU

show me some links that would recount sunnis and shiites slaughtering one another during the reign of Saddam.

show me where any region of Iraq that was under Saddam's control was EVER used as a haven for Islamic extremists.

show me any evidence that Saddam was NOT an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony.

oh... do you even know what the word hegemony means? maybe THAT is what has you confused!

I won't hold my breath.

you are blind to the facts
i wont waste my time looking for them

wow.... now why am I not surprised by THAT cowardly dodge???

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foild Iranian regional hegemony during the rreign of Saddam, you would do so.

YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

 

[DiveCon]

show me some links that would recount sunnis and shiites slaughtering one another during the reign of Saddam.

show me where any region of Iraq that was under Saddam's control was EVER used as a haven for Islamic extremists.

show me any evidence that Saddam was NOT an effective foil against Iranian regional hegemony.

oh... do you even know what the word hegemony means? maybe THAT is what has you confused!

I won't hold my breath.

you are blind to the facts
i wont waste my time looking for them

wow.... now why am I not surprised by THAT cowardly dodge???

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foild Iranian regional hegemony during the rreign of Saddam, you would do so.

YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

you are a ******* moron, **** off

 

[maineman]

you are blind to the facts
i wont waste my time looking for them

wow.... now why am I not surprised by THAT cowardly dodge???

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foild Iranian regional hegemony during the rreign of Saddam, you would do so.

YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

you are a ******* moron, **** off

on last time for the dentally and intellectually impaired:

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foil Iranian regional hegemony during the reign of Saddam, you would do so.


YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

g'nite.

 

[Charles_Main]

Which liberal Anchor was it that said Saddam was on the Verge of Moderating when we fucked it up by invading.

LOL

yep 25 Years of not being Moderate were a clear indication he was on the verge of Moderating.

lol

 

[DiveCon]

wow.... now why am I not surprised by THAT cowardly dodge???

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foild Iranian regional hegemony during the rreign of Saddam, you would do so.

YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

you are a ******* moron, **** off

on last time for the dentally and intellectually impaired:

If you could show me any links where shiites routinely slaughtered sunnis during Saddam's reign, you would do so.

If you could show me any links that showed where Saddam provided safe haven to wahhabist extremists, you would do so.

If you could show men any links that showed how Iraq had failed in its efforts to foil Iranian regional hegemony during the reign of Saddam, you would do so.


YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT, and you know it.

run away little man. you bore me.

g'nite.

you have been proven wrong on so many things and you refuse to admit it
you are a ******* moron
piss off moron
i dont give a rats ass for your opinions of me, you can shove them up you pathetic ass where you head currently resides