It Matters To The Dead Men’s Families, Hillary

[NYcarbineer]

No, bush had faulty intelligence, even hillary said the same after seeing the evidence. Your a hypocrite.

Bush got the intelligence he demanded

So bill clinton demanded the same intelligence when he said the same about iraq as bush?

Bill Clinton didn't get four thousand + Americans needlessly killed in Iraq.

 

[NYcarbineer]

By Mychal Massie
January 29, 2013


Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee January 23, Hillary’s performance was predictable. After suffering with a tummy ache, an alleged fall, and alleged blood clots caused by the alleged fall – she appeared before the Committee filled with spit and vinegar. Her theatrics were expected (at least by me), but what wasn’t expected by [...]


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Who delegated this Massie person to speak for the families.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

So I guess it would be okay for bush to come out and say what does it matter I got faulty info about iraq?

Bush didn't, has not and will not. Only Democrats have and continue to lie about the deaths of the four in Benghazi.
Why haven't the survivors testified? Why wasn't a quick reaction force(QRT) sent to rescue the survivors? Why were they left to die? What was the State Dept. and the CIA up to in Benghazi? Transparency has been a fiction with this administration. None of these questions have been answered.
Yes it matters to the families and the rest of people of America.

 

[jknowgood]

Bush got the intelligence he demanded

So bill clinton demanded the same intelligence when he said the same about iraq as bush?

Bill Clinton didn't get four thousand + Americans needlessly killed in Iraq.

The war in iraq was agreed upon by republicans and democrats, it's funny how democrats blamed all problems on bush a republican president, but blame all of obama's wrong doings on the republicans in the house even though the democrats had total power for two years. So at one time in history the president had all the power, but now he has no power, I see. I also noticed liberals lost all counting skills once obama got elected.

 

[rightwinger]

So bill clinton demanded the same intelligence when he said the same about iraq as bush?

Bill Clinton didn't get four thousand + Americans needlessly killed in Iraq.

The war in iraq was agreed upon by republicans and democrats, it's funny how democrats blamed all problems on bush a republican president, but blame all of obama's wrong doings on the republicans in the house even though the democrats had total power for two years. So at one time in history the president had all the power, but now he has no power, I see. I also noticed liberals lost all counting skills once obama got elected.

Actually the war in Iraq was decided on by a single person. The Commander in Chief at the time.....George Bush

 

[Claudette]

Would that be the same war that both the Reps and Dems in Congress approved??

Yes. I do believe it was.

 

[rightwinger]

Would that be the same war that both the Reps and Dems in Congress approved??

Yes. I do believe it was.

Most Democrats voted against it

Congress gave approval to the Commander in Chief to execute a war with Iraq if he saw it as necessary

It was George Bush who pulled the trigger

The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

 

[jknowgood]

Bill Clinton didn't get four thousand + Americans needlessly killed in Iraq.

The war in iraq was agreed upon by republicans and democrats, it's funny how democrats blamed all problems on bush a republican president, but blame all of obama's wrong doings on the republicans in the house even though the democrats had total power for two years. So at one time in history the president had all the power, but now he has no power, I see. I also noticed liberals lost all counting skills once obama got elected.

Actually the war in Iraq was decided on by a single person. The Commander in Chief at the time.....George Bush

I didn't realize bush pulled an obama by bypassing both houses to get his agenda through.

 

[rightwinger]

The war in iraq was agreed upon by republicans and democrats, it's funny how democrats blamed all problems on bush a republican president, but blame all of obama's wrong doings on the republicans in the house even though the democrats had total power for two years. So at one time in history the president had all the power, but now he has no power, I see. I also noticed liberals lost all counting skills once obama got elected.

Actually the war in Iraq was decided on by a single person. The Commander in Chief at the time.....George Bush

I didn't realize bush pulled an obama by bypassing both houses to get his agenda through.

Bush was autorized by Congress to invade if he saw it necessary

It was Bush who decided it was necessary

One of the worst strategic blunders in history

 

[boilermaker55]

Still having trouble with some contextual reading?

By Mychal Massie
January 29, 2013


Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee January 23, Hillary’s performance was predictable. After suffering with a tummy ache, an alleged fall, and alleged blood clots caused by the alleged fall – she appeared before the Committee filled with spit and vinegar. Her theatrics were expected (at least by me), but what wasn’t expected by [...]


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[jknowgood]

Actually the war in Iraq was decided on by a single person. The Commander in Chief at the time.....George Bush

I didn't realize bush pulled an obama by bypassing both houses to get his agenda through.

Bush was autorized by Congress to invade if he saw it necessary

It was Bush who decided it was necessary

One of the worst strategic blunders in history

The world is a better place without sadaam, if he could've he would make america a parking lot. We took sadaam out before he could, remember hitler was just months away from having an airplane that would've leveled new york if we had'nt taken him out.

 

[rightwinger]

I didn't realize bush pulled an obama by bypassing both houses to get his agenda through.

Bush was autorized by Congress to invade if he saw it necessary

It was Bush who decided it was necessary

One of the worst strategic blunders in history

The world is a better place without sadaam, if he could've he would make america a parking lot. We took sadaam out before he could, remember hitler was just months away from having an airplane that would've leveled new york if we had'nt taken him out.

Saddam was contained

It was not worth 5000 American lives to take out someone who was not a threat

(Hitler never had the capability to attack the US)

 

[deaddogseye]

By Mychal Massie
January 29, 2013


Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee January 23, Hillary’s performance was predictable. After suffering with a tummy ache, an alleged fall, and alleged blood clots caused by the alleged fall – she appeared before the Committee filled with spit and vinegar. Her theatrics were expected (at least by me), but what wasn’t expected by [...]


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This is disingenuous right wing propaganda and ignorance. The OP edited the testimony in an attempt to twist what Hillary was saying.

Let me interpret for you. She was not saying the lose of 4 Americans lives didn't matter. She was saying just the opposite. She was stating the fact "we had four dead Americans" and "what difference at this point does it make?" whether the anti-Islamic video was a factor or not. "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again Senator"

Transcript:

Johnson : The point I’m making is a very simple phone call to these individuals would’ve ascertained immediately that there was no protest prior to this. This attack started at 9:40 p.m. Benghazi time and it was an assault. I appreciate the fact that you called it an assault, but I’m going back to Ambassador Rice five days later going to Sunday shows and what I would say is purposefully misleading the American public. Why wasn’t that known? And again I appreciate the fact that the transparency of this hearing, but why weren’t we transparent to that point in time?

Clinton : Well first of all Senator, I would say that the once the assault happened, and once we got our people rescued and out, our most immediate concern was number one taking care of their injuries. As I said, I still have a DS agent at Walter Reid seriously injured, getting them into Frankfurt, Ramstein to get taken care of, the FBI going over immediately to start talking to them. We did not think it was appropriate for us to talk to them before the FBI conducted their interviews. And we did not, I think this is accurate sir, I certainly did not know of any reports that contradicted the IC talking points at the time that Ambassador Rice went on the TV shows, and you know I just want to say that people have accused Ambassador Rice and the administration of you know misleading Americans. I can say trying to be in the middle of this and understanding what was going on, nothing could be further from the truth. Was information developing? Was the situation fluid? Would we reach conclusions later that weren’t reached initially? And I appreciate the --

Johnson : But Madame Secretary, do you disagree with me that a simple phone call to those evacuees to determine what happened wouldn’t have ascertained immediately that there was no protest? That was a piece of information that could’ve been easily, easily obtained?

Clinton : But Senator again—

Johnson : Within hours, if not days?

Clinton : Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

Johnson : I realize that a good excuse.

Clinton : Well no it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorist, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown—

Johnson : No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that - an assault sprang out of that - and that was easily ascertained that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

Clinton : With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again Senator. Now honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process I understand going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear it is from my perspective less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on the meantime.

to me the irony here is right in what clinton said and what was part of the very outburst that was the most played clip -- the what does it matter statement.

So she says what does it matter -- and then says out job is to figure out what happened.

Well how do you ever figure out what happened if you dont know how it started / what caused it -- which is exactly what she said didnt matter. Her response was nonsensical theatrics and you do have to blame the Republicans (politicians are a truly stupid bunch on both sides of the aisle) for not calling her on the clearly self-contradictory statement (of if someone did it didnt get reported).

 

[Caroljo]

This is disingenuous right wing propaganda and ignorance. The OP edited the testimony in an attempt to twist what Hillary was saying.

Let me interpret for you. She was not saying the lose of 4 Americans lives didn't matter. She was saying just the opposite. She was stating the fact "we had four dead Americans" and "what difference at this point does it make?" whether the anti-Islamic video was a factor or not. "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again Senator"

Transcript:

Johnson : The point I’m making is a very simple phone call to these individuals would’ve ascertained immediately that there was no protest prior to this. This attack started at 9:40 p.m. Benghazi time and it was an assault. I appreciate the fact that you called it an assault, but I’m going back to Ambassador Rice five days later going to Sunday shows and what I would say is purposefully misleading the American public. Why wasn’t that known? And again I appreciate the fact that the transparency of this hearing, but why weren’t we transparent to that point in time?

Clinton : Well first of all Senator, I would say that the once the assault happened, and once we got our people rescued and out, our most immediate concern was number one taking care of their injuries. As I said, I still have a DS agent at Walter Reid seriously injured, getting them into Frankfurt, Ramstein to get taken care of, the FBI going over immediately to start talking to them. We did not think it was appropriate for us to talk to them before the FBI conducted their interviews. And we did not, I think this is accurate sir, I certainly did not know of any reports that contradicted the IC talking points at the time that Ambassador Rice went on the TV shows, and you know I just want to say that people have accused Ambassador Rice and the administration of you know misleading Americans. I can say trying to be in the middle of this and understanding what was going on, nothing could be further from the truth. Was information developing? Was the situation fluid? Would we reach conclusions later that weren’t reached initially? And I appreciate the --

Johnson : But Madame Secretary, do you disagree with me that a simple phone call to those evacuees to determine what happened wouldn’t have ascertained immediately that there was no protest? That was a piece of information that could’ve been easily, easily obtained?

Clinton : But Senator again—

Johnson : Within hours, if not days?

Clinton : Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

Johnson : I realize that a good excuse.

Clinton : Well no it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorist, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown—

Johnson : No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that - an assault sprang out of that - and that was easily ascertained that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

Clinton : With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again Senator. Now honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process I understand going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear it is from my perspective less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on the meantime.

Of course it doesn't matter to her - she wants us to forget that they lied to the American public about what happened. They made up a story blaming a video...and how many times did they repeat that lie? How many other things have they lied about to us? And you trust these liars? Clinton can't be trusted any more than Obama. We want to know why they lied. If you're child lied to you, wouldn't you want to know why and what the truth really is? Of course you would, but it's ok if your gov't does it? Unbelievable!

No one lied. Susan Rice was given talking points by the intelligence community when she went on the Sunday shows, and there were security reasons for not providing more public information. There was an investigation going on and they didn't want to undermine any leads they were following.

Even today, no one can say what the motives of the attackers were. No one can say with certainty that the anti-Islamic film was not a factor. These are all inconvenient facts that the right just cannot digest.

Then how hard would it have been for them to just say they're still investigating and can make no comments until they knew for sure what happened? Why make up a lie about a stupid video? There wouldn't have been this uproar over it if they'd just said this....and not lied about it. They lied...now we want the truth! I can't believe you don't!

 

[Caroljo]

Actually the war in Iraq was decided on by a single person. The Commander in Chief at the time.....George Bush

I didn't realize bush pulled an obama by bypassing both houses to get his agenda through.

Bush was autorized by Congress to invade if he saw it necessary

It was Bush who decided it was necessary

One of the worst strategic blunders in history

But he wouldn't have done it if he hadn't got authorization from Congress (Reps & Dems!)...he wouldn't have bypassed them like Obama did. Obama now owns that shit that's going on in Egypt....he helped make that happen plus he's still sending them money! Ya, it's supposed to be "humanitarian aid", but you know damn well were that money is really going! He's a traitor!