It is vital the U.S. destroy China within the next 20 years.

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Seems like China is the right wing Boogie Man dujour.

Used to be the Russians. Times do change.
 
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Seems like China is the right wing Boogie Man dujour.

Used to be the Russians. Times do change.
We have to eliminate Russia as well but it isn't as time urgent. They're a slowly dying nation so we can deal with them at our leisure.

China first. Then Russia. Because in real life you always take care of business.

Before pleasure.
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
no I do not overestimate their damage ......
..ok---lets say 2 out of 5 work--destroying the top 2 cities in each state---!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
 

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China fielding a world class military
Meh. It's so-so. They're workers rather than fighters.
economic strength and the international political appeal of their "prosperous autocracy" model
Walmart, Cisco, Microsoft, Intel, Huawei --- they're all big multinational corporations with CEOs --- the Dems want to go to war to keep the workers in line, but Biden has no intention of allowing us to build economic independence in the United States.
detrimental to both the short and long term interests of the United States.
The United States is slowly but surely being strangled to death in its own worker safety, environmental, gun control, and other U.S. Code and CFR regulations --- bombing the heck out of China won't stop that problem --- because the intent of such laws to punish Republicans out of business, and beat small businesses out of existence, in order to foster our dependency on imports.
 

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The United States is slowly but surely being strangled to death in its own worker safety, environmental, gun control, and other U.S. Code and CFR regulations --- bombing the heck out of China won't stop that problem --- because the intent of such laws to punish Republicans out of business, and beat small businesses out of existence, in order to foster our dependency on imports.
I have to agree to disagree regarding regulations. The Rich are still getting richer regardless of all of the regulations right wingers like to complain about. Business could be coming up with market friendly business solutions to regulatory issues instead of having nothing but repeal of regulation with no Pareto Optimal solutions.
 
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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
And yes, many of them will be intercepted by our ABD.
And anyway, if there is a choice between "to lose a few million of filthy Democrats" and "to lose the USA" - ok, there is no choice.
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
And yes, many of them will be intercepted by our ABD.
And anyway, if there is a choice between "to lose a few million of filthy Democrats" and "to lose the USA" - ok, there is no choice.
hahahahhaha
YOU also are playing Missile Command
''''''And yes, many of them will be intercepted by our ABD'''''
get with reality .
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
....OMG----so, a nuke hits a city and the city goes back to normal in a --ahhhh--few hours??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..they'll be in their cars going to McDonald's!!!!!!!
hundreds of thousands DEAD.....radiation.......
YOU also are playing Missile Command------the economy/etc is DESTROYED!!!....
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
????????!!!!!!!!!!!AHAHAHHAHAHAHA
that's TEN times the Hiroshima bomb.......yes, it will destroy it for all practical purposes
 

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According to National Defense Magazine (NationalDefenseMagazine.org) China plans to field a "world class military" by 2049. This cannot be allowed to happen. China fielding a world class military combined with their economic strength and the international political appeal of their "prosperous autocracy" model will be detrimental to both the short and long term interests of the United States.
1) I'll probably be dead by then, so who cares?
2) China's military is hardly had a great record of success. They haven't been engaged in an active war since their war on Vietnam in 1979 which almost everyone has forgotten. it didn't go well for them.
 
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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
....OMG----so, a nuke hits a city and the city goes back to normal in a --ahhhh--few hours??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..they'll be in their cars going to McDonald's!!!!!!!
hundreds of thousands DEAD.....radiation.......
YOU also are playing Missile Command------the economy/etc is DESTROYED!!!....
I never said that.
 

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Seems like China is the right wing Boogie Man dujour.

Used to be the Russians. Times do change.
We have to eliminate Russia as well but it isn't as time urgent. They're a slowly dying nation so we can deal with them at our leisure.

China first. Then Russia. Because in real life you always take care of business.

Before pleasure.
How many people do you care about are you willing to have come home in boxes to "defeat" China?

My number is exactly ZERO.
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
....OMG----so, a nuke hits a city and the city goes back to normal in a --ahhhh--few hours??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..they'll be in their cars going to McDonald's!!!!!!!
hundreds of thousands DEAD.....radiation.......
YOU also are playing Missile Command------the economy/etc is DESTROYED!!!....
I never said that.
..from your OP it looks like you want us to start an illegal war--
 

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2. nukes???!!!......just a few nuke hits in the US will make Covid look like child's play
Doesn't that depend on where they hit? With apologies to the residents there, I don't think it would be the end of the world for the U.S. if Minot, North Dakota (an absolutely vital target for an enemy hitting the U.S.) and its 12,000 residents were destroyed.
who said they won't hit the big cities?
Because nuclear weapons are rare enough in this modern age (China only has a few hundred) that you can't waste them targeting cities "just for the hell of it". You have to limit your nuclear targeting to military targets that are most vital. For example Minot is one of the primary storage areas for U.S. nuclear weapons and obviously a target in any kind of conflict.
a few hundred-----that's ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hahahahahhaha
it doesn't matter where they land
they have 290? that's over 5--per STATE!!!!!!!
You vastly overestimate the damage they can do. And not all of them are going to work right anyway. IIRC the estimated failure rates for Soviet nuclear weapons (which were more sophisticated than anything the Chinese have) was at least 30%.
about 10 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb--single warhead with MIRV
150 kiloton warhead is not large enough to destroy most major cities.
And yes, many of them will be intercepted by our ABD.
And anyway, if there is a choice between "to lose a few million of filthy Democrats" and "to lose the USA" - ok, there is no choice.
hahahahhaha
YOU also are playing Missile Command
''''''And yes, many of them will be intercepted by our ABD'''''
get with reality .
No problem. Here is reality:
 

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