It is time to end our relationship with Israel

[Shusha]

The Double standards these people apply to the Israel is, of course, driven by one of the three D’s of antisemitism. (The other two are delegitimization and demonization, which of course they also do.)

Exactly.

Israel has no right to exist and must be dismantled = delegitimization.
Israel is a settler colonial state = demonization.
Other settler colonial states have a right to exist and be protected = double standards.

 

[BackAgain]

You can't keep playing but Hamas card and ignore Israeli barbarism and Genocide.

There is no Israeli “genocide.”

 

[Roudy]

Is that why they murdered British soldiers and Arab civilians and the Stern gang made contact with the Nazis to try and do a deal to attack British forces in the middle east while the war was being fought, they also wanted to kill Churchill, so you can save your Bullshit.

You must be smoking that hashish your lovers send you from Gaza. Your idiotic response had no relevance whatsoever to the fact that the Palestinian Mufti was a certified Nazi and on Hitler’s payroll. Shove it!

 

[Roudy]

You mean just allow the Zionist Colonialists to go about their business? Israel actually funded Hamas against the PLO.

Arabs are the colonial invaders that have invaded lands, killed people and forced their religion language and culture down the throats of the indigenous peoples at the point of the sword.

 

[Roudy]

Thanks for stating an irrefutable reality so clearly obvious to any informed and rational human being with a soul.

How ironic that pro Israel Western MSM floods the airwaves hyperbolic Holocaust rubbish to mask the real genocide funded by Zionist owned US politicians.

What are you blabbering now, nut job? You guys are the ones that support bloodthirsty barbaric Islamic terrorist animals.

 

[MarcATL]

I'm leftists don't understand right and wrong

What are you suggesting is right and wrong in this thread?

 

[Shusha]

What are you suggesting is right and wrong in this thread?

Same question.

 

[MarcATL]

Same question.

It was ******* wrong how Israel was created.

It's wrong how Israel has been treating the Palestinians ever since.

It's ******* wrong what they've been doing to the Palestinian people after October 7.

Do you disagree?

 

[Deadstick]

Hamas is the culprit in this situation.if they would just live in peace like the people on the West Bank do everyone would be better off. You can't have a neighbor who is always attacking you. They have to go. That will allow things to normalize and finally have peace.

The IDF and crazed settlers have been killing people on the West Bank and destroying Palestinian olive plants and filling water springs with concrete, so no one can live with criminals like that.

 

[Deadstick]

The Double standards these people apply to the Israel is, of course, driven by one of the three D’s of antisemitism. (The other two are delegitimization and demonization, which of course they also do.)

Have you noticed how none of these posters never rant and rave about the actual genocide being committed in Nigeria? And why? Because the barbarians are Islamic, and the victims are Christian.

An Unrecognized Genocide in Nigeria

How much do Western Christians know about Nigeria? Do we recall that it is the largest nation in Africa? Are we aware of its hugely important economic role? Most important of all, do we realize—at this very moment—that another genocide against Christians seems to be taking place there? Nigeria...

www.hudson.org

Does it? according to Trump and we know he is Bonkers, like i said Israel is a settler Colonial State by these people, they are Europeans.

The original illegal settlers. “A settler colonial fraud – by R Qureshi – Bearing Witness ‘David Ben-Gurion, born David Grün in Poland, became the face of the new state. Golda Meir was born Golda Mabovitch in Kyiv, raised in the United States, and arrived in Palestine as a self-proclaimed “returning” native. Menachem Begin was born in Belarus. Shimon Peres came from the same region as Szymon Perski. Yitzhak Shamir was Yitzhak Yezernitzky from Belarus. The first president, Chaim Weizmann, was also Belarusian. Ariel Sharon was Ariel Scheinermann, the son of Belarusian immigrants. Yitzhak Rabin was born to a Ukrainian father and Belarusian mother. Ehud Barak entered the world as Ehud Brog, to Lithuanian and Polish parents. Benjamin Netanyahu’s family name was Mileikowsky, from Warsaw, before it was Hebraicised. He was also known in New York as “Ben Netan”.’ ‘The myth was built carefully. From the 1920s onwards, immigrants were pushed to drop their European names and adopt Hebrew ones. David Ben-Gurion personally pressed soldiers, civil servants and public figures to Hebraicise. The point was to erase visible foreignness and project the image of an “ancient people” reasserting its place.’ ‘Gideon Levy wrote that “Israel was not founded by natives returning home but by foreigners who took a land that was not theirs,” calling the founding story “a carefully crafted national fantasy.” Historian Avi Shlaim said: “Zionism is a settler-colonial project, born in Europe, imposed on an already inhabited land.””

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Does it? according to Trump and we know he is Bonkers, like i said Israel is a settler Colonial State by these people, they are Europeans.

The original illegal settlers. “A settler colonial fraud – by R Qureshi – Bearing Witness ‘David Ben-Gurion, born David Grün in Poland, became the face of the new state. Golda Meir was born Golda Mabovitch in Kyiv, raised in the United States, and arrived in Palestine as a self-proclaimed “returning” native. Menachem Begin was born in Belarus. Shimon Peres came from the same region as Szymon Perski. Yitzhak Shamir was Yitzhak Yezernitzky from Belarus. The first president, Chaim Weizmann, was also Belarusian. Ariel Sharon was Ariel Scheinermann, the son of Belarusian immigrants. Yitzhak Rabin was born to a Ukrainian father and Belarusian mother. Ehud Barak entered the world as Ehud Brog, to Lithuanian and Polish parents. Benjamin Netanyahu’s family name was Mileikowsky, from Warsaw, before it was Hebraicised. He was also known in New York as “Ben Netan”.’ ‘The myth was built carefully. From the 1920s onwards, immigrants were pushed to drop their European names and adopt Hebrew ones. David Ben-Gurion personally pressed soldiers, civil servants and public figures to Hebraicise. The point was to erase visible foreignness and project the image of an “ancient people” reasserting its place.’ ‘Gideon Levy wrote that “Israel was not founded by natives returning home but by foreigners who took a land that was not theirs,” calling the founding story “a carefully crafted national fantasy.” Historian Avi Shlaim said: “Zionism is a settler-colonial project, born in Europe, imposed on an already inhabited land.””

Arab settlers from Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon are ok, but Jewish settlers are evil?

DURR

 

[Deadstick]

Arab settlers from Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon are ok, but Jewish settlers are evil?

DURR

Behave yourself.

 

[teddyearp]

Anyone who supports what Israel has become is pure bloody evil.

What they have become? What they are are fighting for their existence. Like they have been for thousands of years. Now that they have a nation of their own, they are going to defend it at all costs, which is the absolute RIGHT of all nations.

The palestinain Arabs cannot even get together enough to have created one of their own, which they have had plenty of opportunity to do. NO. Their only goal is the genocide of the Jews, just like their hero Hitler wanted.

 

[teddyearp]

They are evil and the way the Country has gone they don't deserve to be part of the civilized world.

Neither do you and your buddies Hamas and the rest of the radical Islamists all around the world now.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Behave yourself.

Inshallah, eh comrade?

 

[Shusha]

Does it? according to Trump and we know he is Bonkers, like i said Israel is a settler Colonial State by these people, they are Europeans.

The original illegal settlers. “A settler colonial fraud – by R Qureshi – Bearing Witness ‘David Ben-Gurion, born David Grün in Poland, became the face of the new state. Golda Meir was born Golda Mabovitch in Kyiv, raised in the United States, and arrived in Palestine as a self-proclaimed “returning” native. Menachem Begin was born in Belarus. Shimon Peres came from the same region as Szymon Perski. Yitzhak Shamir was Yitzhak Yezernitzky from Belarus. The first president, Chaim Weizmann, was also Belarusian. Ariel Sharon was Ariel Scheinermann, the son of Belarusian immigrants. Yitzhak Rabin was born to a Ukrainian father and Belarusian mother. Ehud Barak entered the world as Ehud Brog, to Lithuanian and Polish parents. Benjamin Netanyahu’s family name was Mileikowsky, from Warsaw, before it was Hebraicised. He was also known in New York as “Ben Netan”.’ ‘The myth was built carefully. From the 1920s onwards, immigrants were pushed to drop their European names and adopt Hebrew ones. David Ben-Gurion personally pressed soldiers, civil servants and public figures to Hebraicise. The point was to erase visible foreignness and project the image of an “ancient people” reasserting its place.’ ‘Gideon Levy wrote that “Israel was not founded by natives returning home but by foreigners who took a land that was not theirs,” calling the founding story “a carefully crafted national fantasy.” Historian Avi Shlaim said: “Zionism is a settler-colonial project, born in Europe, imposed on an already inhabited land.””

You understand that giving up your language, including your name, is assimilation, yes? Some cultures were forced to give up their language and names, such as the indigenous peoples of the Americas, others were coerced into doing so, still others did so as an method of appeasement.

Restoring your name to your native language (not to mention reviving your language) is an act of DECOLONIZATION.

 

[Shusha]

It was ******* wrong how Israel was created.

It was wrong that a newly emerged nation should face immediate annihilation and extermination by five surrounding countries. Absolutely wrong. It was wrong that the Jewish people all over the Middle East and North Africa were ethnically cleansed from their homes and their countries for no reason other than they belonged to an ethnic collective. It continues to be wrong for the world to call for the dismantling of a tiny country which does exist, nevermind that you think it has no right to exist. ******* wrong.

Do you not agree that attacking another sovereign country is objectively wrong? Do you not agree that trying to destroy another sovereign nation is objectively wrong? Do you not agree that ethnic cleansing is objectively wrong? Do you not agree that trying to prevent the self-determination of a people is objectively wrong?

What is objectively wrong with the Jewish people having a State in their homeland?

It's wrong how Israel has been treating the Palestinians ever since.

We would probably have some points of agreement here, if we ever discussed it. But we would also have to discuss the treatment of Israelis and the Jewish people by the Arabs. But you, and others, never seem to want to discuss that. Is suicide bombing civilian places not objectively wrong? Is firing indiscriminate rockets at civilians not objectively wrong?

What is objectively wrong with responding to belligerent violence against you (self defense)?

It's ******* wrong what they've been doing to the Palestinian people after October 7.

I have a feeling we would have a disagreement of facts. I, personally, don't believe war, as an act of collective self-defense, is wrong. On the contrary, protecting your citizens is not only not-wrong, it is a moral obligation. It would be objectively wrong to allow your citizens to continue to be attacked.

 

[Deadstick]

What they have become? What they are are fighting for their existence. Like they have been for thousands of years. Now that they have a nation of their own, they are going to defend it at all costs, which is the absolute RIGHT of all nations.

The palestinain Arabs cannot even get together enough to have created one of their own, which they have had plenty of opportunity to do. NO. Their only goal is the genocide of the Jews, just like their hero Hitler wanted.

Genocide isn't defence and a occupier doesn't have a right of defence anymore than the Nazis did in occupied Europe.

 

[teddyearp]

Genocide isn't defence and a occupier doesn't have a right of defence anymore than the Nazis did in occupied Europe.

Abraham bought the cave in Hebron for 400 pieces of silver around 2000 B.C.E. The Jews in the 19th century and beyond started buying more. They have paid for that land with gold, silver, lead, and blood. And the Arabs idolize (as I'm sure you do too) Hitler, the master of genocide against the Jews; in particular. So, that fact in mind, by your own words, the Arabs/Palestinians who occupy Israel do not have any right to defense (spelled correctly) either.

 

[Lisa558]

Behave yourself.

^^^ translation: don’t point out the double standards I apply where Da Joos are concerned.