it is this simple.

[Mohamed]

Let's be honest, this is what you worship;

hahahaha what a stupid words. you either totally ignorant of islam or totally Venomous.

anyway kaaba is just to specify direction of our pray, you will destroy it?? this is the maximum you can do?
hahahaha

even if you do we will build it again. but you will lose much.


if you continue this way of speaking, i will end arguing here. muslim should argue in a rational ray. otherwise it is better to discard discussions.

 

[Uncensored2008]

hahahaha what a stupid words. you either totally ignorant of islam or totally Venomous.

Nope, just honest.

When you bow, you bow to the idol in the Kaaba.

anyway kaaba is just to specify direction of our pray, you will destroy it?? this is the maximum you can do?
hahahaha

It is where the idol is - where the Djin Allah lives.

even if you do we will build it again. but you will lose much.

Your idol is a meteorite. You cannot build it.

if you continue this way of speaking, i will end arguing here. muslim should argue in a rational ray. otherwise it is better to discard discussions.

You seek to enslave and murder, is this what you call "rational?"

 

[Mohamed]

Islamic law has an INTERNAL LOGIC-----It is "true" because it says it is "true"

If one is willing to accept as a postulate----that "ISLAM IS TRUE"----its details become
logical and almost childishly simplistic. Amongst muslims ideological arguments
do not actually happen in the way that they do with other religionists. EVERYTHING
IS FULLY AND PLAINLY EXPLAINED IN THE KORAN. (which explains why girls can
tie bombs to their asses and go out smiling whilst their mothers smile along with them)

we don't accept islam as a postulate, we accept with proofs and guides.

i think what you wrote is better suitable to secular people, they accept some postulates without any proof and then builds of them.

1) they assume there is no hereafter and consequently all religions are equal.
where is the proof?
2) they pretend to be christians but in the same time reject to believe what their religion dictate.
what is this contradiction?
3) they pretend liberalism and their style of living is the best.
how do you get sure of that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

all what hamas request is to have an airport and a port on the sea to be independent from others. is this request so difficult?

what do you expect them to accept?
accept to be killed from hunger and siege silently?

it is really contradiction who says that hamas is bad because they kill israelis. and what israel do?

they reply that there is a difference, because hamas have an islamic ideology that aims to down israeli regime. hmmm? so why not be honest from begining and say that hamas is bad because it obeys islamic ideology. not because they kill people?

israel kills palestinians because they obey islamic religion and ideology. please be honest and say this clearly

I expect them to stop arming themselves to attack Israel.

By the way, why don't you mention the fact that Egypt totally agrees with Israel about not letting Hamas have either of those?

 

[Ropey]

Islamic law has an INTERNAL LOGIC-----It is "true" because it says it is "true"

If one is willing to accept as a postulate----that "ISLAM IS TRUE"----its details become
logical and almost childishly simplistic. Amongst muslims ideological arguments
do not actually happen in the way that they do with other religionists. EVERYTHING
IS FULLY AND PLAINLY EXPLAINED IN THE KORAN. (which explains why girls can
tie bombs to their asses and go out smiling whilst their mothers smile along with them)

we don't accept islam as a postulate, we accept with proofs and guides.

i think what you wrote is better suitable to secular people, they accept some postulates without any proof and then builds of them.

1) they assume there is no hereafter and consequently all religions are equal.
where is the proof?
2) they pretend to be christians but in the same time reject to believe what their religion dictate.
what is this contradiction?
3) they pretend liberalism and their style of living is the best.
how do you get sure of that?

Your English has improved markedly.

[ame=http://youtu.be/xKP06aWPQhg]Evelyn Woodhead Speed Reading Course - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Mohamed]

You seek to enslave and murder

hmmm, and what america does? how many were killed in vitneme?
how many were killed in iraq? what about supporting criminals like general el-sis in egypt and al-maliki in iraq to enslave whole nations and control them?

uhhh, sorry .. i forgot all of these are terrorists, they should all die.

 

[Indeependent]

"we don't accept islam as a postulate, we accept with proofs and guides."

Starting with Sura 1, what's a proof or guide?

 

[Mohamed]

By the way, why don't you mention the fact that Egypt totally agrees with Israel about not letting Hamas have either of those?

i am egyptian, don't you knew yet?

the criminal el-sisi (america's man) represent himself and the mobs who support him.

 

[Mohamed]

Starting with Sura 1, what's a proof or guide?

ok quran have an arguments for existance of god and that there is only one:
the main argument for existence of god is the existence of universe itself.
that was mentioned in many "ayas" that reminds people how elaborate and well designed this universe is

like what is translated like
{
Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain.
}
taha sura

{
It is Allah who sends the winds, and they stir the clouds and spread them in the sky however He wills, and He makes them fragments so you see the rain emerge from within them. And when He causes it to fall upon whom He wills of His servants, immediately they rejoice
}
sura al-rom

the proof for existence of one god is very simple.

{
Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him].
}
Surat Al-Mu'minūn

these simple arguments are sufficient to those that are honest. it is not philosphically complicated so that all people can understand.

 

[Uncensored2008]

hmmm, and what america does? how many were killed in vitneme?
how many were killed in iraq? what about supporting criminals like general el-sis in egypt and al-maliki in iraq to enslave whole nations and control them?

uhhh, sorry .. i forgot all of these are terrorists, they should all die.

I suspect you are a troll. Your English swings from good - to absurdly bad. YOU said you sought to make the Jews live as Zimmis - slaves to Islam - or to kill those who refuse.

Look, your filthy religion is the very definition of evil. Islam has no redeeming features.

 

[boedicca]

I suggest we refrain from feeding this troll-sock puppet.

 

[Mohamed]

The guide that mohamed is the messenger of allah is the islamic religion and shariah itself. this of course needs extensive discussion. but in brief:

1) islam gives a logic and real description about god and his actions that is compatible with our everyday life. a god who is merciful such that he gives us vision, hearing, environmental resources, and in the same time may subject us to tests like (poverty, illness, pain)

2) islam provides a justice shariah (provided that you accept no god except god and mohamed is the messenger of allah)

3) islam is consistent and practical. so you will find regulations on divorce, war and other practical aspects of life. it doesn't simply say (be peaceful please).

i have extensive review for that but it is written in arabic.

 

[Mohamed]

Look,

don't say that about islam, you stupid.
this is the end of this talk. as long as there is no one to argue with rationally.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Islamic law has an INTERNAL LOGIC-----It is "true" because it says it is "true"

If one is willing to accept as a postulate----that "ISLAM IS TRUE"----its details become
logical and almost childishly simplistic. Amongst muslims ideological arguments
do not actually happen in the way that they do with other religionists. EVERYTHING
IS FULLY AND PLAINLY EXPLAINED IN THE KORAN. (which explains why girls can
tie bombs to their asses and go out smiling whilst their mothers smile along with them)

we don't accept islam as a postulate, we accept with proofs and guides.

i think what you wrote is better suitable to secular people, they accept some postulates without any proof and then builds of them.

1) they assume there is no hereafter and consequently all religions are equal.
where is the proof?
2) they pretend to be christians but in the same time reject to believe what their religion dictate.
what is this contradiction?
3) they pretend liberalism and their style of living is the best.
how do you get sure of that?

Your English has improved markedly.

[ame=http://youtu.be/xKP06aWPQhg]Evelyn Woodhead Speed Reading Course - YouTube[/ame]

You noticed that to huh? cough....sock...cough....

 

[Uncensored2008]

don't say that about islam, you stupid.
this is the end of this talk. as long as there is no one to argue with rationally.

Islam is a cancer, a disease on the human condition. Misery and death are the only return from Islam. I try to see the glimmer of good in all things, but there is no good in Islam, none at all.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

By the way, why don't you mention the fact that Egypt totally agrees with Israel about not letting Hamas have either of those?

i am egyptian, don't you knew yet?

the criminal el-sisi (america's man) represent himself and the mobs who support him.

Why the **** would I know that? Do I look like a psychic?

I notice you didn't actually answer my question, or deal with what I said I expected of Hamas. Why is that?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Once folks like Mohamed love their children more than death, the war will end.

 

[teddyearp]

Palestine lost their lands as spoils of war. They didn't seize anything. Palestine was foolish enough to attack a superior military force, already hardened by the atrocities of Hitler, they were already trained to battle and defeat those bent on their destruction, Mohamed.

Not entirely true and not that simple. Many were forcibly driven out through a process of ethnic cleansing and Jewish resettlement and annexation.

But you must include those that left at the urging of the Arab League who promised to wipe the state of Israel off the map (during the 1948 war) and force the Jews into the sea with a promise of return to the Palestinians afterwards. There is evidence of both.

 

[teddyearp]

zemmi is a description of jews and christians that live in an islamic country under islamic law, they must accept islamic laws and pay "jeziah".

they doesn't have equal rights as muslim, they can't apply to army, police or be the governer or any commanding position. This is because islam is not just some theortical ideas, it is complete set of religion, ideology, law .. etc. those that have wrong religion of course can't be treated like muslims.

This is not injustice, because every one have a chance to correct his religion and be a muslim. those that insist on going the wrong way should afford the consequences.

Wow, just wow. So this is your idea of "peace"? Your idea of tolerance?

EPIC FAIL!!!!

 

[teddyearp]

<SNIP>1) islam gives a logic and real description about god and his actions that is compatible with our everyday life. a god who is merciful such that he gives us vision, hearing, environmental resources, and in the same time may subject us to tests like (poverty, illness, pain)<snip>

But not at all tolerant of others, calling them "infidels" and reducing those who do not worship your false prophet to less than human, to be taxed? And killed?