it is this simple.

[teddyearp]

Oh crap. I got myself involved and drug into actually replying to this thread.

My first take was, why didn't you guys just see this poster for what it was and ignore the whole thread and let it (and the poster) get buried?

But, no. I had to read more of it; dang myself!

Now we have to take away . . . . . . the stuff

 

[Ronin]

To be able to asses the situation, one must look at the entire history of the conflict with the rebirth of the Israeli nation and the Arab nations and Islamic peoples...
If Hamas would make peace with Israel they could exist peacefully with Israel like Egypt does..

Because religion is the driving force behind this, it's not matter of "looking" but one of interpretation.



Some may see a horse others may see a frog.

If Hamas would make peace with Israel they could exist peacefully with Israel like Egypt does..

Getting out of the West Bank would be step, but that's not going to happen. Whether its 5 years, 10, 20, 50 the Christians will have their Armageddon. Its going to be pretty disappointing to whatever is left of civilization when a giant hand to wave Earth into paradise never comes.

 

[The Rabbi]

All that Hamas really wants is for Israel to be destroyed and the Jews to be wiped off the face of the earth.

It's really that simple.

for me, i can't accept a secular jewish regime over a land that was governed by god's law in some day.

regarding the jewish themselves we have no problem that they live as zemmis in islamic world, but not seize the islamic land. but the continuous aggression of israel and killing people makes it difficult to many muslims to even accept the existence of jewish in palestine.

we already want to down the israeli regime. do you think this is enough reason to kill us?
hmmm, but israel itself appeared after downing off the ottoman empire and seizing palestine from muslims. do you think this is enough reason to kill them?

All your bases are belong to us!

 

[irosie91]

Let's be honest, this is what you worship;

hahahaha what a stupid words. you either totally ignorant of islam or totally Venomous.

anyway kaaba is just to specify direction of our pray, you will destroy it?? this is the maximum you can do?
hahahaha

even if you do we will build it again. but you will lose much.


if you continue this way of speaking, i will end arguing here. muslim should argue in a rational ray. otherwise it is better to discard discussions.

for those who do not know ---"RATIONAL" amongst muslims is -----
'never question a single word of the Koran or of shariah law' as that filth is
interpreted by Islamic "scholars" There is actually no debate among muslims
about islam------there is some disagreement----solved by tying bombs to the asses
of aldolescent girls and boys

 

[proudveteran06]

Look,

don't say that about islam, you stupid.
this is the end of this talk. as long as there is no one to argue with rationally.

What you are indirectly saying is that Islam is a GUTTER RELIGION ! AGREE !!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mohamed believes in his faith as if it were a truth factually verifiable.

It isn't, any more than Christianity.

The concept of 'religious tolerance' is a concept he does not and will not understand.

And he is willing to kill for his faith.

Therefore . . . .

 

[irosie91]

don't say that about islam, you stupid.
this is the end of this talk. as long as there is no one to argue with rationally.

What you are indirectly saying is that Islam is a GUTTER RELIGION ! AGREE !!!

more than that, veteran. Poor mo seems to think he posts in the CALIPHATE. I have mentioned
that hubby was born in a shariah cesspit-------I have noticed that he and---people like him---ie
jews born in the shariah cesspit-------NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM----in that cesspit---
if a jew mentions islam------he has committed a capital crime------
There are lots of "storefront" mosques in my town-----hubby will cross the street rather than
walk near one of them. I have a translated copy of the koran----but I hide it just not
to nauseate him. An interesting factoid of Islamic law-----a musim can demand
hospitality in the homes (or places of worship) of dhimmis---anytime----so one never
knows when one is around as a kind of witness to "BLASPHEMY AGAINST ISLAM"
thus dhimmis AVOID CONTACT as much as possible

 

[Ronin]

All that Hamas really wants is for Israel to be destroyed and the Jews to be wiped off the face of the earth.

It's really that simple.

for me, i can't accept a secular jewish regime over a land that was governed by god's law in some day.

regarding the jewish themselves we have no problem that they live as zemmis in islamic world, but not seize the islamic land. but the continuous aggression of israel and killing people makes it difficult to many muslims to even accept the existence of jewish in palestine.

we already want to down the israeli regime. do you think this is enough reason to kill us?
hmmm, but israel itself appeared after downing off the ottoman empire and seizing palestine from muslims. do you think this is enough reason to kill them?

It was the Arab aggression and violence in the 20's and 30's against the immigrant Jews that directly led to the establishment of the two state solution.

Targeting Discos, Pizza parlors, Universities and Schools buses is a good reason to designate Hamas as a piece of shit terrorist organization.

Have you ever read what the founding Zionists stated? Immigration caps? Do you view the Stern Gang as freedom fighters?

 

[Noomi]

Op is a lie.

No it isn't. It is his perspective of what is going on.

 

[irosie91]

Starting with Sura 1, what's a proof or guide?

ok quran have an arguments for existance of god and that there is only one:
the main argument for existence of god is the existence of universe itself.
that was mentioned in many "ayas" that reminds people how elaborate and well designed this universe is

like what is translated like
{
Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain.
}
taha sura

{
It is Allah who sends the winds, and they stir the clouds and spread them in the sky however He wills, and He makes them fragments so you see the rain emerge from within them. And when He causes it to fall upon whom He wills of His servants, immediately they rejoice
}
sura al-rom

the proof for existence of one god is very simple.

{
Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him].
}
Surat Al-Mu'minūn

these simple arguments are sufficient to those that are honest. it is not philosphically complicated so that all people can understand.

It is nonsense----silly and childish

 

[Kondor3]

They must have had some really excellent hashish in Arabia back in the 6th, eh?

 

[teddyearp]

They must have had some really excellent hashish in Arabia back in the 6th, eh?

Ahah! That explains it! Every time I've tried to read the Koran, it just seems to be like a bunch of ramblings . . .

 

[BlindBoo]

for me, i can't accept a secular jewish regime over a land that was governed by god's law in some day.

regarding the jewish themselves we have no problem that they live as zemmis in islamic world, but not seize the islamic land. but the continuous aggression of israel and killing people makes it difficult to many muslims to even accept the existence of jewish in palestine.

we already want to down the israeli regime. do you think this is enough reason to kill us?
hmmm, but israel itself appeared after downing off the ottoman empire and seizing palestine from muslims. do you think this is enough reason to kill them?

It was the Arab aggression and violence in the 20's and 30's against the immigrant Jews that directly led to the establishment of the two state solution.

Targeting Discos, Pizza parlors, Universities and Schools buses is a good reason to designate Hamas as a piece of shit terrorist organization.

Have you ever read what the founding Zionists stated? Immigration caps? Do you view the Stern Gang as freedom fighters?

Yes, yes, and no.

 

[montelatici]

It was the Arab aggression and violence in the 20's and 30's against the immigrant Jews that directly led to the establishment of the two state solution.

Targeting Discos, Pizza parlors, Universities and Schools buses is a good reason to designate Hamas as a piece of shit terrorist organization.

Have you ever read what the founding Zionists stated? Immigration caps? Do you view the Stern Gang as freedom fighters?

Yes, yes, and no.

No, the Jews started the violence against the Arabs. Arab hostility later was just a response to mistreatment by the Jews:

They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

Achad Ha'am

David Goldberg: The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region's enmity | Comment is free | The Guardian

 

[bendog]

No offense, but a separate Palestinian state was for the asking if the Palestinians had accepted any form of partition from 48 up until 1967. Even afterwards it was there for the asking, if the Palestinians accepted the existence of a Jewish state up through the assassination of Rabin. After which, Israel made a hard right turn.

 

[Kondor3]

No offense, but a separate Palestinian state was for the asking if the Palestinians had accepted any form of partition from 48 up until 1967. Even afterwards it was there for the asking, if the Palestinians accepted the existence of a Jewish state up through the assassination of Rabin. After which, Israel made a hard right turn.

That ^^^^