Zone1 It is God's plan for Jesus to unite "ALL THINGS" back to him. Will God get what God wants or will Jesus FAIL?

[onefour1]

Do people ever get out of Hell?

I don't know that it has ever been revealed that one can get out of the kingdom they are assigned to.

 

[Quantrill]

Lucifer/Satan, all the "fallen" angels, demons, etc., will be granted the ability to repent and they too will cheerfully submit to Jesus. All things!

You didn't answer my question. Why not?

Quantrill

 

[Samofvt]

Every "thing" is already in God's domain. Jesus came to unite ALL THINGS to God. Do you believe that will happen? Most Christian believe that Jesus fails miserably and that Jesus then throws souls into a forever torture chamber that makes Auschwitz look like a Girl Scout camp. I certainly don't share that doctrine.

I can not say exactly. It's beyond our knowledge, and only glimpsed through prophecy/visions. I do believe in these visions, but they are told and retold with the bias of the beholder. We are imperfect, after all.

The imagery of a burning torture chamber of pure pain is no different. It may have been reinforced for political reasons to sway the "church" believers into obeying the commands of the political leaders of the time. I don't share that doctrine, either, although there may be something to it.

The third lesson was that all life is precious, and we should respect our Fathers creation.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

I can not say exactly. It's beyond our knowledge, and only glimpsed through prophecy/visions. I do believe in these visions, but they are told and retold with the bias of the beholder. We are imperfect, after all.

The imagery of a burning torture chamber of pure pain is no different. It may have been reinforced for political reasons to sway the "church" believers into obeying the commands of the political leaders of the time. I don't share that doctrine, either, although there may be something to it.

The third lesson was that all life is precious, and we should respect our Fathers creation.

The Bible definitely teaches that ALL who ever existed will be in God's Kingdom. Here us a plethora of those scriptures.

Isaiah 52:10

The Lord has bared his holy arm before the eyes of all the nations and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.



Titus 2:11

11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,



Luke 19:10 ESV

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”



1 John 4:14

14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.



1 Timothy 4:10

For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.



Lamentations 3:31

For the Lord will not cast off forever



Romans 5:18

Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.



1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.



Romans 11:32

For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.



John 12:32

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to myself.”



Revelation 21:5

And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”



2 Corinthians 5:19

that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.



John 6:51

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”



2 Corinthians 5:14-15

For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; 15 and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.



Colossians 1:20

and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.



John 3:17

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.



Luke 3:6

and all flesh shall see the salvation of God



Philippians 2:10-11

so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.



Romans 10:9

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.



2 Samuel 14:14

We must all die; we are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. But God will not take away life, and he devises means so that the banished one will not remain an outcast.



Ephesians 1:10

As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth.



John 1:29

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"



1 Corinthians 15:22-28

22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Samofvt]

The Bible definitely teaches that ALL who ever existed will be in God's Kingdom. Here us a plethora of those scriptures.

Isaiah 52:10

The Lord has bared his holy arm before the eyes of all the nations and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.



Titus 2:11

11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,



Luke 19:10 ESV

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”



1 John 4:14

14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.



1 Timothy 4:10

For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.



Lamentations 3:31

For the Lord will not cast off forever



Romans 5:18

Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.



1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.



Romans 11:32

For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.



John 12:32

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to myself.”



Revelation 21:5

And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”



2 Corinthians 5:19

that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.



John 6:51

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”



2 Corinthians 5:14-15

For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; 15 and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.



Colossians 1:20

and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.



John 3:17

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.



Luke 3:6

and all flesh shall see the salvation of God



Philippians 2:10-11

so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.



Romans 10:9

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.



2 Samuel 14:14

We must all die; we are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. But God will not take away life, and he devises means so that the banished one will not remain an outcast.



Ephesians 1:10

As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth.



John 1:29

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"



1 Corinthians 15:22-28

22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

Such beautiful words. I shall treasure your thesaurus of quotes for all my days, for I have never read the bible. my faith comes from my direct experience in life. I was never indoctrinated. I do hope to read the Bible someday, although I will need the large print version.

My woman provides me with the fourth teaching of Jesus Christ, and the fact that it comes to me from her and not ... eh, somewhere else ... is funny and so very appropriate.

The lamb of God taught us that we should love one another, despite our differences, and the same love should be given toward God. [No, don't love thy neighbor's wife , love thy neighbor. ]

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

The lamb of God taught us that we should love one another, despite our differences, and the same love should be given toward God. [No, don't love thy neighbor's wife , love thy neighbor. ]

Amen. I believe the following three verses are all one really needs to do. One doesn't need to be a theologian to go to Heaven, thankfully.

Matthew 22:36-40
Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

Galatians 5:13-14
For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

 

[task0778]

I was under the impression that God always gets what he wants. But he works in mysterious ways, so you never know what's coming. Also, he kinda has his own schedule.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

I was under the impression that God always gets what he wants. But he works in mysterious ways, so you never know what's coming. Also, he kinda has his own schedule.

Amen.

The Bible tells us that 1) God wants ALL to be in his Kingdom and 2) that God gets what God wants!

Supporting scriptures:
1 Timothy 2:3-4
This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9 esv
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

Isaiah 46:10
declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose.

Isaiah 55:11
so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.

Ephesians 1:11
In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.

 

[Samofvt]

And so, the best things in life are indeed free.

But that's not what I want. I want money. That's what I want.

jk

 

[onefour1]

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.