Issues on which I disagree with the right

[Rigby5]

libertarians shouldn't believe in public education at all.

Your view of foreign policy is also clearly flawed. Although the middle east isn't important hemming in China certainly is

Wrong.
Libertarians should defend the equality of the rights of each individual, so then it is not fair for the wealthy to given their children an inherited economic advantage of an unequal education.
With China, the point is China has the right to its one fate.
Taiwan is actually where those who collaborated with Japan went to, against the wishes of the natives.
You just do not really understand the issues that Libertarians are correct about.

 

[initforme]

Vote the way you want. When someone tells me I should vote for their guy, that's a red flag

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Wrong.
Libertarians should defend the equality of the rights of each individual, so then it is not fair for the wealthy to given their children an inherited economic advantage of an unequal education.
With China, the point is China has the right to its one fate.
Taiwan is actually where those who collaborated with Japan went to, against the wishes of the natives.
You just do not really understand the issues that Libertarians are correct about.

so then it is not fair for the wealthy to given their children an inherited economic advantage of an unequal education.

So let me see if i understand your thinking.

I work 50 years of my life, making some good choices and some bad choices, but over all i am able to leave my children very well off, what you are saying that for what i did and how long, my children should not benefit from my choices?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wrong.
Libertarians should defend the equality of the rights of each individual, so then it is not fair for the wealthy to given their children an inherited economic advantage of an unequal education.

Why is it not fair?

 

[john doe 101]

Lots of quality candidates in the Republican party. Trump, DeSantis, and Noem just to name a few. Even Boebert, Jordan, Gaetz, and Greene are better than anything the Democrats have to offer.

So you support people that are anti-American, grifters, against the rule of law, anti-science, anti-intellectuals, conspiracy nut jobs, pedophile enablers and actual pedophiles. Says a lot about you

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you support people that are anti-American, grifters, against the rule of law, anti-science, anti-intellectuals, conspiracy nut jobs, pedophile enablers and actual pedophiles. Says a lot about you

Those are real Americans. You're used to the commies telling you that they are. They hate everything about this country. They hate capitalism, wealthy people, our Constitution, our police, freedom, religion, you name anything real American and they hate it.

 

[Rigby5]

Next, you're going to tell us "I believe in everything, but I don't practice anything".


Wikipedia states:

Libertarianism (from French: libertaire, "libertarian"; from Latin: libertas, "freedom") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as a core principle. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association.



Liberty involves a lot of laws, rules, and policing. Otherwise you do not have liberty, you have anarchy.

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The closest you can get to Anarchism is the best.
The ONLY times laws, rules, and policing are necessary is when one person attempts to infringe upon another person.
That normally does not happen that much.
The main problem is when organizations become corrupt and infringe upon the majority of the population.
So the less government the better usually.
The only problem is the threat of economic slavery from huge multi national corporations.
And unfortunately that requires government to regulate and prevent abuse.

 

[Rigby5]

Why is it not fair?

Isn't it obvious?
If inherited wealth guarantees advantage, there is not equality, justice, etc.

 

[dblack]

Isn't it obvious?
If inherited wealth guarantees advantage, there is not equality, justice, etc.

Which is essentially the same as saying that posessed wealth ensures there is no equality or justice. Why the distinction?

 

[Rigby5]

Which is essentially the same as saying that posessed wealth ensures there is no equality or justice. Why the distinction?

No, because inherited wealth is unearned.
It is a dynasty, which is unfair.

 

[dblack]

No, because inherited wealth is unearned.

And what does "earned" mean, to you? If someone gives someone else some money - how do you determined if it was "earned" or not?

It is a dynasty, which is unfair.

How so?

 

[BluesLegend]

I don't favor the war on drugs.

Pull your head out of your ass, Biden's open borders have allowed enough Fentanyl into the country to kill every American 7 times over. Thousands are dying.

 

[BluesLegend]

No, because inherited wealth is unearned.
It is a dynasty, which is unfair.

How is it unfair? It was earned and the taxes were paid already.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, because inherited wealth is unearned.
It is a dynasty, which is unfair.

Is winning at a casino unearned? How about the horse races? What about the lottery?

So how would your rectify this unfairness, have government take any inheritance people may get? Be forced to share it with neighbors?

There is nothing unfair about getting money as long as you do it legally.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Isn't it obvious?
If inherited wealth guarantees advantage, there is not equality, justice, etc.

It doesn't always guarantee advantage. I've seen companies go belly up when the original owner passed it on to their children. There are books written on lottery winners who claim the money ruined their lives. For some people money is an advantage if they know how to handle money. If you don't know how to handle money, getting a large sum of money could be the worst thing that ever happened to you.

 

[Rigby5]

So let me see if i understand your thinking.

I work 50 years of my life, making some good choices and some bad choices, but over all i am able to leave my children very well off, what you are saying that for what i did and how long, my children should not benefit from my choices?

Why should your children start with a huge economic advantage that all other children do not have, that they did not earn or deserve?
Especially since they could easily use that advantage in order to harm millions of people, destroying their jobs, put other good companies out of business, offshoring vital technologies and jobs, etc.

The point being that you can't actually have equality under the law or justice is you do not also have some degree of economic equality and justice.

 

[Rigby5]

Is winning at a casino unearned? How about the horse races? What about the lottery?

So how would your rectify this unfairness, have government take any inheritance people may get? Be forced to share it with neighbors?

There is nothing unfair about getting money as long as you do it legally.

Winning at a casino, gambling, horse races, and lotteries are totally unearned and wrong, and used to be illegal.
The reason they are no longer illegal is that corrupt people are using these illusions of wealth to rob people of millions.

The proper way to deal with probate wealth after a person dies, is for it to go to fund charities like for the disabled, widows, orphans, etc.
Why should any child have more of a head start, advantage, or unearned wealth than any other child?

 

[Rigby5]

It doesn't always guarantee advantage. I've seen companies go belly up when the original owner passed it on to their children. There are books written on lottery winners who claim the money ruined their lives. For some people money is an advantage if they know how to handle money. If you don't know how to handle money, getting a large sum of money could be the worst thing that ever happened to you.

All the more reason to not allow inheritance.
Make everyone truly equal financially and you will greatly reduce or even eliminate crime.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All the more reason to not allow inheritance.
Make everyone truly equal financially and you will greatly reduce or even eliminate crime.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats forever.

I remember when I was just a lad. My father had to go somewhere (I forget where now) and we had to drive through a bad part of town. As I gazed upon the poverty I told my father I wish I had a million dollars (a lot of money back in the 60's). He asked what I would do with a million dollars? I said I would come back here and give it to these people so they didn't have to live like this. My father smiled at my innocence and said "Son, you could give each and every one of these people a million dollars, and within time, they will end up right back here again."

Today poverty is an option, not an affliction. Every American with the exception of those physically or mentally disabled has a choice on how they wish to live. Poverty is not the cause of crime. It's usually bad upbringing and many times by a single parent. if you live in poverty today, it's the choice you made for yourself, and all the money in the world won't change that.

Speaking of my father, he grew up poor. He was raised in a house with no electricity or running water. They had an outhouse in the backyard that didn't even have a roof on it. Yet he and his six siblings never spent one day in jail. They all spent time in the military and served in war. They all gained careers for themselves and three had their own business. My aunts got married to working men and had children without spending a day on the public dole.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Winning at a casino, gambling, horse races, and lotteries are totally unearned and wrong, and used to be illegal.
The reason they are no longer illegal is that corrupt people are using these illusions of wealth to rob people of millions.

The proper way to deal with probate wealth after a person dies, is for it to go to fund charities like for the disabled, widows, orphans, etc.
Why should any child have more of a head start, advantage, or unearned wealth than any other child?

Why? Because their parents earned it, that's why. When you make money it's your property, not the governments. This socialist dream of yours doesn't work and never will. One of the reasons we are the greatest and most wealthy country in the world is because we always have tried to make a better world for our children than we had; we are rewarded for our investments, hard work and success. It's worked pretty well I'd say. After all there is no reason to create wealth if in the end it's forcibly taken away from you. Imagine what kind of country we'd have if government took our goals away.