Israel's war crimes

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

 

[MJB12741]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

You mean like this?

Ahed Tamimi Accidentally Shows How Humane Israel Is

 

[Shazoomx4]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

The Palestinians want to occupy Israel from the river to the sea they want to do it by killing Israelian...
Its just natural for Israel to counter this attacks...
Israel has the right to defend itself!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

The Palestinians want to occupy Israel from the river to the sea they want to do it by killing Israelian...
Its just natural for Israel to counter this attacks...
Israel has the right to defend itself!

Israel has the right to defend it's self, but somehow Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

∫ RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

Speaking of derogatory, you slime the Palestinians in every post.

You act like they have no right to defend themselves.

(COMMENT)

How many times do we have to go over this.

The Customary and International Humanitarian Law says: The Arab Palestinians are 100% WRONG if they take action solely intended to harm the Occupying Power. The END.

There is no excuse or justification for the seven decades of hostile activity that have used to disrupt international peace and security. (NO EXCUSE AT ALL)

IF pointing out that the Arab Palestinians have the most densely populated culture of mixed Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters on the planet → THEN → I ask. What flavor of slime is that?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

The Palestinians suffer daily violations.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

The Hamas Charter does not propose a peaceful solution.

You were fired as the Head Hamas Spokesbeard for a reason.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis are where they are as part of an ongoing effort to defend their sovereign integrity from further Arab associated incursions.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,
Problem solved.

(COMMENT)

Absent an honest effort to seek a settlement of their disputes with the Israelis by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, or arrangements for other peaceful means of their choice → the status quo should not be reasonably expected to change.

In fact, from the Arab Palestinian perspective, absent an honest and good faith effort, the situation should only be expected to further deteriorate.

Most Respectfully,
R

You always get it wrong, Rocco, and I often wonder why.

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

“ International Law” does not prevent negotiation. The Israelis offered the Palestinians almost all of the land they are demanding. The Palestinians at the point of their Rockets and aggression are demanding Israel be deprived of their Religious Sites and eventually having a Palestinian majority. Neither is going to happen.
By your “ definition “ Israel shouldn’t permit any crossing between Gaza and the W . Bank

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Israel thought terrorism was justified against the British, for the British doing far less against them, than the Israelis have done against Palestinians.

 

[USAF 2023]

∫ RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

(COMMENT)

How many times do we have to go over this.

The Customary and International Humanitarian Law says: The Arab Palestinians are 100% WRONG if they take action solely intended to harm the Occupying Power. The END.

There is no excuse or justification for the seven decades of hostile activity that have used to disrupt international peace and security. (NO EXCUSE AT ALL)

IF pointing out that the Arab Palestinians have the most densely populated culture of mixed Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters on the planet → THEN → I ask. What flavor of slime is that?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

The Palestinians suffer daily violations.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

∫ RE: Israel's war crimes
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

(COMMENT)

How many times do we have to go over this.

The Customary and International Humanitarian Law says: The Arab Palestinians are 100% WRONG if they take action solely intended to harm the Occupying Power. The END.

There is no excuse or justification for the seven decades of hostile activity that have used to disrupt international peace and security. (NO EXCUSE AT ALL)

IF pointing out that the Arab Palestinians have the most densely populated culture of mixed Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters on the planet → THEN → I ask. What flavor of slime is that?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, IF they were under attack. BUT, that is not is NOT the case at all (NOT at all).

The Palestinians suffer daily violations.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Palestinians suffer daily violations.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

The Palestinians suffer daily violations.

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

Why would Jews move to Christian nations, disrespect Christians, and then not understand why they are hated by Christians?

Why would Jews move to Palestine (A Muslim nation) disrespect those Muslims, and then not understand why they are hated by Muslims?

The so called "World's most intelligent people" don't seem to be if you ask me, if they can't grasp why they're hated for disrespect, and their lack of assimilation to their host nations.

 

[toobfreak]

LOOK: I care not for what happens on the other side of the world, but let's be honest:

1. Palestine exists at the behest and good will of Israel. They could annihilate Palestine tomorrow and take ALL of the land but they restrain themselves to play nice with the international community.
2. Palestine is fighting a war it cannot win, yet perpetually antagonizes Israel to keep attacking them.
3. Palestine had their best chance to get nearly everything they could want in 1947 but chose to throw it back in the face of the UN and Israel.
4. Palestine has been losing ground ever since.
5. I think if Palestine ever genuinely gave up the terroristic mechanisms and sat down with true peace in their hearts to reach a settlement with Israel and the UN, they'd get it, SO LONG AS they evolved into a peaceful society with their neighbors, but we all know they just are not ready for that.
6. Whatever resolution Palestine eventually gets, it will never be as good as the one they threw away many years ago.

 

[USAF 2023]

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

The Israelis suffer daily violations.

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

Why would Jews move to Christian nations, disrespect Christians, and then not understand why they are hated by Christians?

Why would Jews move to Palestine (A Muslim nation) disrespect those Muslims, and then not understand why they are hated by Muslims?

The so called "World's most intelligent people" don't seem to be if you ask me, if they can't grasp why they're hated for disrespect, and their lack of assimilation to their host nations.

The majority of Nations are Christian, you Moron . How are Jews” disrespecting “ Christians?
The Middle East is where Kidiadm was born. That’s why they belong there. How are they “ disrespecting “ Muslims? Too bad you don’t feel that way about Countries like Saudi Arabia who won’t even allow Bibles or those Muslims who cut Christians heads off

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

LOOK: I care not for what happens on the other side of the world, but let's be honest:

1. Palestine exists at the behest and good will of Israel. They could annihilate Palestine tomorrow and take ALL of the land but they restrain themselves to play nice with the international community.
2. Palestine is fighting a war it cannot win, yet perpetually antagonizes Israel to keep attacking them.
3. Palestine had their best chance to get nearly everything they could want in 1947 but chose to throw it back in the face of the UN and Israel.
4. Palestine has been losing ground ever since.
5. I think if Palestine ever genuinely gave up the terroristic mechanisms and sat down with true peace in their hearts to reach a settlement with Israel and the UN, they'd get it, SO LONG AS they evolved into a peaceful society with their neighbors, but we all know they just are not ready for that.
6. Whatever resolution Palestine eventually gets, it will never be as good as the one they threw away many years ago.

The whole situation started with Jews from Europe, Iran, and North Africa etc. moving into Palestinian majority land in mass.

Why should Palestinians be forced to give up their lands to Jews, when the Arabs owned more land, and had a majority of the population?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

Then they should stay out of Palestine,

Problem solved.

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

Why would Jews move to Christian nations, disrespect Christians, and then not understand why they are hated by Christians?

Why would Jews move to Palestine (A Muslim nation) disrespect those Muslims, and then not understand why they are hated by Muslims?

The so called "World's most intelligent people" don't seem to be if you ask me, if they can't grasp why they're hated for disrespect, and their lack of assimilation to their host nations.

The majority of Nations are Christian, you Moron . How are Jews” disrespecting “ Christians?
The Middle East is where Kidiadm was born. That’s why they belong there. How are they “ disrespecting “ Muslims? Too bad you don’t feel that way about Countries like Saudi Arabia who won’t even allow Bibles or those Muslims who cut Christians heads off

Jews are still disrespecting their Palestinian hosts, by pushing them aside, by stealing their lands with settlements, by shooting into crowds as terrorists, and by the buffer zone.

Jews are still disrespecting their former Catholic host of Poland, by consistently blaming them for the Holocaust, even though Poles were the first to fight the Nazis, and also died by the Nazis in mass.

Do, I need to say more?

 

[USAF 2023]

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

Why would Jews move to Christian nations, disrespect Christians, and then not understand why they are hated by Christians?

Why would Jews move to Palestine (A Muslim nation) disrespect those Muslims, and then not understand why they are hated by Muslims?

The so called "World's most intelligent people" don't seem to be if you ask me, if they can't grasp why they're hated for disrespect, and their lack of assimilation to their host nations.

The majority of Nations are Christian, you Moron . How are Jews” disrespecting “ Christians?
The Middle East is where Kidiadm was born. That’s why they belong there. How are they “ disrespecting “ Muslims? Too bad you don’t feel that way about Countries like Saudi Arabia who won’t even allow Bibles or those Muslims who cut Christians heads off

Jews are still disrespecting their Palestinian hosts, by pushing them aside, by stealing their lands with settlements, by shooting into crowds as terrorists, and by the buffer zone.

Jews are still disrespecting their former Catholic host of Poland, by consistently blaming them for the Holocaust, even though Poles were the first to fight the Nazis, and also died by the Nazis in mass.

Do, I need to say more?

Your post just reveals your ignorance and stupidity. Anti Semitism has been in the Muslim Religion since Mohammed; nothing to do with the Palestinians. We are insulting Christians because we tell the truth about Poland? You are funny in a pathetic way

 

[Shazoomx4]

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.[/Q

No, we do not go back to Europe...
The European does not want us anyway...

If only Jews would've assimilated to their host nations, there would be no issue of that sort.

Why should the Jews have assimilated? They aren’t free to keep their Religion and Culture like others are?

Why would Jews move to Christian nations, disrespect Christians, and then not understand why they are hated by Christians?

Why would Jews move to Palestine (A Muslim nation) disrespect those Muslims, and then not understand why they are hated by Muslims?

The so called "World's most intelligent people" don't seem to be if you ask me, if they can't grasp why they're hated for disrespect, and their lack of assimilation to their host nations.

The majority of Nations are Christian, you Moron . How are Jews” disrespecting “ Christians?
The Middle East is where Kidiadm was born. That’s why they belong there. How are they “ disrespecting “ Muslims? Too bad you don’t feel that way about Countries like Saudi Arabia who won’t even allow Bibles or those Muslims who cut Christians heads off

Jews are still disrespecting their Palestinian hosts, by pushing them aside, by stealing their lands with settlements, by shooting into crowds as terrorists, and by the buffer zone.

Jews are still disrespecting their former Catholic host of Poland, by consistently blaming them for the Holocaust, even though Poles were the first to fight the Nazis, and also died by the Nazis in mass.

Do, I need to say more?

First, The Israelian don't angry about Poland and the German Nazis before more than 73 years, we grow up.

Second, This land does not belong to what you call Palestinians.
They not hosts.
This land belongs to who sit there, and now Israel sitting here and wait for peace to come.
Unfortunately, The Arabian ppl don't want to live in peace so they start wars and they lost.

Israel has the right to defend itself and this is what Israel do

 

[toobfreak]

LOOK: I care not for what happens on the other side of the world, but let's be honest:

1. Palestine exists at the behest and good will of Israel. They could annihilate Palestine tomorrow and take ALL of the land but they restrain themselves to play nice with the international community.
2. Palestine is fighting a war it cannot win, yet perpetually antagonizes Israel to keep attacking them.
3. Palestine had their best chance to get nearly everything they could want in 1947 but chose to throw it back in the face of the UN and Israel.
4. Palestine has been losing ground ever since.
5. I think if Palestine ever genuinely gave up the terroristic mechanisms and sat down with true peace in their hearts to reach a settlement with Israel and the UN, they'd get it, SO LONG AS they evolved into a peaceful society with their neighbors, but we all know they just are not ready for that.
6. Whatever resolution Palestine eventually gets, it will never be as good as the one they threw away many years ago.

The whole situation started with Jews from Europe, Iran, and North Africa etc. moving into Palestinian majority land in mass.
Why should Palestinians be forced to give up their lands to Jews, when the Arabs owned more land, and had a majority of the population?

How is it "their" land? They are yet just one more occupier. The name Palestine was used by the ancient Greeks, and it was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima, and the Islamic provincial district of Jund Filastin. The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the Land of Israel, the Holy Land or Promised Land. Historically, it has been known as the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant. Like most lands, ownership changes over time by whoever has the strongest claim to it. Mind you, this isn't a legal claim, but a military one. And clearly, Israel has the stronger claim to it which is why they have it. Indeed, they could easily take it all and destroy the Palestinians, they don't need the hassle nor the bother. Like I said, the Palestinians, right or wrong, exist at the benevolence of the Jews. The time to settle was years ago, all fighting has done is kill countless people and lose yet more land.

In wiser times, the Palestinians would live in total peace, then there would be no need for armies, no need for borders and wars, and the Palestinians would enjoy the entire region as their own and walk freely wherever they want to go in harmony with their fellow man. The greatest soldier is the one who raises no shield, no axe, for putting up no fight, he cannot be defeated.

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

"Peaceful solution" = no Jewish sovereignty over any portion of the land, removing human rights from the Jewish people
"Unjust solution" = sovereignty for both peoples with a portion of the land for each peoples

You have it reversed. The just solution is to share the land, with both peoples receiving equal human rights to sovereignty and self-determination and peaceful prosperity with their neighbors. The unjust solution is to seek to prevent one of the world's peoples from having any sort of national sovereignty.

 

[toobfreak]

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

"Peaceful solution" = no Jewish sovereignty over any portion of the land, removing human rights from the Jewish people
"Unjust solution" = sovereignty for both peoples with a portion of the land for each peoples

You have it reversed. The just solution is to share the land, with both peoples receiving equal human rights to sovereignty and self-determination and peaceful prosperity with their neighbors. The unjust solution is to seek to prevent one of the world's peoples from having any sort of national sovereignty.

BOTTOM LINE: Never Trust An Arab.

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians are seeking a peaceful solution based on human rights, international law, and UN resolutions. Not a shot need to be fired.

Israel, on the other hand, wants to impose an unjust solution at the point of a gun resulting in massive death and destruction.

"Peaceful solution" = no Jewish sovereignty over any portion of the land, removing human rights from the Jewish people
"Unjust solution" = sovereignty for both peoples with a portion of the land for each peoples

You have it reversed. The just solution is to share the land, with both peoples receiving equal human rights to sovereignty and self-determination and peaceful prosperity with their neighbors. The unjust solution is to seek to prevent one of the world's peoples from having any sort of national sovereignty.

BOTTOM LINE: Never Trust An Arab.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. But at its foundation, yes, I believe that the cause of the conflict is a deep-rooted antisemitism and belief that the Jewish people, unique in the world, do not have the same rights that other peoples do. It is a fundamental rejection of the humanity of Jews. And an incredibly strong Arab replacement theology.