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Israel's Secret Weapon

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?
He's an educated person----either sunday school or Khutbah Jumaat
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
Except it is. Whether or not it is "official" is semantics. I showed Surada that every country in the ME sans Israel practices it and frequently.
 

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But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.
Ah, yes, the eternal victims. 50% of US billionaires are Jews due to the horrid persecution you poor people suffer at the hands of the Gentile animals amongst whom you are forced to live due to the logistics of fleecing. Poor things, always with a genocide just around the corner threatening to slow down your ongoing cultural and civil genocide against your host populations. Your terror must be awful given the precariousness of your situation--a full 2% of the population and only 66% of President* Biden's cabinet. And you were forced to go to the extreme measure of stealing the last election in order get your obedient zombie-carcass in the White House. How you suffer! No wonder you live in such fear and hatred of the rest of humanity. Everyone knows you are God's Superduper specialness superior master supremacist race and until you have 100% of the cabinet positions, you are the victims of savage persecution. It's been a hundred years since you've been able to enjoy slaughtering tens of millions of Christians, even the little ones so that none unto him remained alive. Oh! The persecution by the goyim who have prevented you from obedience to your religion by not offering their necks to your knives. The agony!
50% of US billionaires are Jews due to the horrid persecution you poor people suffer

It's the opposite
...
You hate us because when we come to a country we are poor and become wealthy within 3 generations.
No shlomo, we hate you because you destroy
Elaborate, starting from 1AD.
I'd rather start with the present and the destruction of our institutions, nations, and culture and work backwards to the destruction of Israel by wicked Judah in the 5th century BC.
Jews are not destroying our institutions our corrupt government is.
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?

And who is it that starts all the conflict, like massacring all the Canaanites at Jericho, including women and children?
Do you know why the Inquisition was going after Jews in Spain?
It was because the Moors did not know how to administer, so set up the Jews as the ruling class of the Iberian Peninsula.
And it was their taxation that got the Moor defeated and kicked out.
The Hebrew tribes came from the Sinai, where they went back to after Egypt.
If the Jews wanted a homeland, the wilderness of the Sinai is where it should be.
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
Except it is. Whether or not it is "official" is semantics. I showed Surada that every country in the ME sans Israel practices it and frequently.

I disagree.
I think what most countries of the MIdeast practice is the Old Testament Judaism.
The Quran says only beheading for executions.
The Old Testament says things like stoning adulterers.
 

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But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.
Ah, yes, the eternal victims. 50% of US billionaires are Jews due to the horrid persecution you poor people suffer at the hands of the Gentile animals amongst whom you are forced to live due to the logistics of fleecing. Poor things, always with a genocide just around the corner threatening to slow down your ongoing cultural and civil genocide against your host populations. Your terror must be awful given the precariousness of your situation--a full 2% of the population and only 66% of President* Biden's cabinet. And you were forced to go to the extreme measure of stealing the last election in order get your obedient zombie-carcass in the White House. How you suffer! No wonder you live in such fear and hatred of the rest of humanity. Everyone knows you are God's Superduper specialness superior master supremacist race and until you have 100% of the cabinet positions, you are the victims of savage persecution. It's been a hundred years since you've been able to enjoy slaughtering tens of millions of Christians, even the little ones so that none unto him remained alive. Oh! The persecution by the goyim who have prevented you from obedience to your religion by not offering their necks to your knives. The agony!
50% of US billionaires are Jews due to the horrid persecution you poor people suffer

It's the opposite
...
You hate us because when we come to a country we are poor and become wealthy within 3 generations.
No shlomo, we hate you because you destroy
Elaborate, starting from 1AD.
I'd rather start with the present and the destruction of our institutions, nations, and culture and work backwards to the destruction of Israel by wicked Judah in the 5th century BC.
Jews are not destroying our institutions our corrupt government is.
"Our" government? There was a time when Americans said "our press, the watchdogs of democracy". Does any American say that now? We used to think of higher education as "our universities." Do we anymore? When was the last time you met someone who believed "our military" was acting in our interests? that it was "our" justice system? that the safety and well-being of the American people was the driving force at "our" Dept of "Defense?" How many Americans would answer yes if you asked them whether they believed "our" representatives in Congress are our representatives? That "our" culture reflects their values? That "our" destiny is in their hands?
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?

And who is it that starts all the conflict, like massacring all the Canaanites at Jericho, including women and children?
Do you know why the Inquisition was going after Jews in Spain?
It was because the Moors did not know how to administer, so set up the Jews as the ruling class of the Iberian Peninsula.
And it was their taxation that got the Moor defeated and kicked out.
The Hebrew tribes came from the Sinai, where they went back to after Egypt.
If the Jews wanted a homeland, the wilderness of the Sinai is where it should be.
Why did the UN force Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt?
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?

And who is it that starts all the conflict, like massacring all the Canaanites at Jericho, including women and children?
Do you know why the Inquisition was going after Jews in Spain?
It was because the Moors did not know how to administer, so set up the Jews as the ruling class of the Iberian Peninsula.
And it was their taxation that got the Moor defeated and kicked out.
The Hebrew tribes came from the Sinai, where they went back to after Egypt.
If the Jews wanted a homeland, the wilderness of the Sinai is where it should be.
Why did the UN force Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt?

Never happened.
Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt because once Egypt had based on the east side of the Suez canal, Israel no longer could hold it.
In fact, Israel obviously never could hold the east bank of the Suez.
It was always a costly mistake for Israel to illegally invade the Sinai.
Same with Gaza and Lebanon.
Israel did not pull back to be nice, but because it was untenable.
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
Except it is. Whether or not it is "official" is semantics. I showed Surada that every country in the ME sans Israel practices it and frequently.

Not "every country".
From what I found, only Saudi Arabia ever does things like cut off a hand for theft.
And that is still very rare, as restitution can be substituted.
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?

Jews constantly move from their homeland.
We don't even know where the Jewish homeland is?
Before the Hebrew tribes moved to Egypt, there is no record of where they came from?
Likely is was the Sinai wilderness, because that is where they went after they left Egypt.
But we know they were forced to leave Palestine after the failed rebellions against Rome.
And likely they want to what is now Saudi Arabia, Media in particular.
But they left there as well.
One thing for sure is that Palestine is not the homeland of Jews.
Jews only ruled there for a few hundred years.
{...
The Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah were two related Israelite kingdoms from the Iron Age period of the ancient Southern Levant. After an emergent and large polity was suddenly formed based on the Gibeon-Gibeah plateau and destroyed by Shoshenq I in the first half of 10th century BCE,[1] a return to small city-states was prevalent in the Southern Levant, but between 950 and 900 BCE another large polity emerged in the northern highlands with its capital eventually at Tirzah, that can be considered the precursor of the Kingdom of Israel. [2] The Kingdom was consolidated as an important regional power by the first half of the 9th century BCE,[3] before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE.
...}
That is 960 BC to 722 BC. That is all.
The later Kingdoms of Israel, Judah and Samaria were actually Roman provinces.
 

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There’s a story that US President Joe Biden has told many times over the years about his first trip to Israel.

As a freshman senator in 1973, Biden was granted a meeting with prime minister Golda Meir, who together with Yitzhak Rabin briefed Biden on the many threats Israel faced, showing him a series of maps.

“I guess she could see the sense of apprehension on my face,” Biden said in a 2010 retelling of the story. “She said, ‘Senator, don’t look so worried… We Israelis have a secret weapon.’ And I thought she only had said this to me, no one else in the whole world… And I thought she was going to tell me about a new secret weapon.”

So what is Israel’s secret weapon, Biden asked eagerly.

“We have nowhere else to go,” replied Golda.

In 2021, when Israelis travel the world and find success in a broad range of fields, when technology and globalization make a large – but privileged – segment of the global population feel like they hold the world in their hands, some may think that statement is an anachronism.

And yet Golda’s words are as relevant today as ever, with the past two weeks of another mini-war with Hamas and the accompanying spike of antisemitism only further proving her point.


We, the Jewish people, have nowhere else to go.

Israelis and the vast majority of Jews in the world who feel a strong connection to Israel already knew this, of course.

Just walk down the street in Israel and ask any random passerby if they think they would be alive today if there was no Israel. Chances are the person would say “no.”

The majority of Israeli Jews, descended from the 850,000 refugees of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East – minus our tiny corner of the region – have good reason to say “no.”

I would also say no.

It was the pre-state Yishuv that kept all four of my maternal great-grandparents from meeting the deadly fate of their relatives at the hands of pogromists and then Nazis, and there are countless Israelis with similar stories.

But Hamas and their acolytes, the useful idiots in the West echoing the terrorist group’s charter by chanting the genocidal rallying cry: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” seem to have missed this point.

When Palestinians compare Israel to crusaders, they’re saying we’re a blip in history, destined to be driven out by a heroic Muslim-led army as was done to the crusaders after 88 years.

But when Palestinians who have picked up on leftist lingo, along with their fellow travelers, present Israel as an illegitimate “settler colony” – as one meme that was shared by influential accounts in recent weeks claimed – they forget a key difference between Israel and actual settler colonies.

When the European Crusades conquered Jerusalem, when the French settled in much of North Africa, when the British took over India, to name some settler colonies, they were still the satellites of a home country, even as they remained for generations. When mid-20th-century rebellions in the colonies were too violent or costly, the European governments packed up and left, evacuating their citizens along with them.

We are in Israel so that we never have to pack our bags and leave again, so that we don’t have to keep the proverbial suitcase by the door. It is because Israel itself is our historic and present home country, and there is no satellite for us.

Palestinians and their advocates like to tell Israelis to go “back” to Poland or Russia or wherever else – it’s always Eastern Europe and not the part of the world from where the majority of Israelis actually come. But, of course, those places are not our homes, and the circumstances under which much of our ancestors left show that those places never were our homes.

In the last two weeks, there has been a 500% spike in recorded antisemitic incidents in the UK, according to the Community Security Trust, and a wave of antisemitic assaults, vandalism and harassment of Jews has hit cities across North America, from Montreal to New York to Tucson to Los Angeles. In Western Europe, antisemitism is there all the time, and it has been for years.

It seems unlikely that this uptick in violence will kick off a wave of Jewish immigration to Israel. While the percentage of American Jews – the largest Diaspora community – who have experienced antisemitism is on the rise, most are able to live safely and comfortably, as Jews should be able to do anywhere in the world.

But we don’t live in a world where Jews can live safely wherever they want. We never have.

The rise in antisemitic attacks comes from those who claim to be standing up for the Palestinians in the latest round of fighting between Israel and Gaza. Mobs of young, keffiyeh-wearing men maraud the streets of LA asking diners in a sushi restaurant if they’re Jewish – not Israeli – so they can pick someone to assault.

In Manhattan, one man took part in a pro-Palestinian march and then went on to bludgeon a Jewish man; the NYPD is using the victim’s bloody kippah as evidence of a hate crime. The assailant, by the way, was featured in an Instagram post by supermodel Bella Hadid, whose father is Palestinian and who participated in the same march. She has nearly 45 million followers. And those are just a couple of examples.

There is something deeply ironic about people trying to “free Palestine” by attacking Diaspora Jews. By turning their violence on Jews outside of Israel, by driving around Jewish neighborhoods to intimidate and assault the residents, by asking people on the street if they are Jewish while brandishing knives, they are expressing their desire to ethnically cleanse their Western countries of Jews.

Don’t they know where Jews go when they’re ethnically cleansed? To Israel, that very place from where they want Jews removed.

But we’re not like the crusaders. We’re still here, 73 years later, and no number of Hamas rockets will get us out of here, not even 4,000 in 11 days, nor will antisemitic attacks on our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora.

And the reason is that we still have our secret weapon: We still have nowhere else to go.


What is insane about that is that Jews were never threatened by Moslems.
Moslems consider themselves to be reformed Jews, sharing the same Old Testament.
The Quran says Judaism is valid, and Jews not to be harmed.
Never have Jews been harmed over religion, by anyone.
Jews have only been harmed when they have been traitors or evil in some way.
The claim everyone else is out to murder us and we are innocent, is impossible to believe.
We even have it in the Old Testament, that Joshua murdered all the Canaanite women and children after taking Jericho from the Canaanites.
Are you an idiot or psychotic?

How about a legal post so I can respond?
Respond to what?
The fact that you post revisionist history from Arab sites?
You're probably such a loser that you have an Arab girlfriend.

Wrong.
I am not only Jewish, but know enough to know Ashkenazi are not even from the MIdeast.
Anyone claiming Jews need their own country to be safe is an obvious lie.
No one else needs their own country in order to be safe.
We only recently had a war with Germany and Japan, and yet Japanese and Germans feel safe in the US.
It is just propaganda for anyone to claim Jews need Israel to be safe, it does the opposite, and any one believing lies like that has to be insane.
Sure...the last 1,000 years sure back up that argument! :auiqs.jpg:
Did you ever notice that only Christians tend to move away from their homelands?

Jews constantly move from their homeland.
We don't even know where the Jewish homeland is?
Before the Hebrew tribes moved to Egypt, there is no record of where they came from?
Likely is was the Sinai wilderness, because that is where they went after they left Egypt.
But we know they were forced to leave Palestine after the failed rebellions against Rome.
And likely they want to what is now Saudi Arabia, Media in particular.
But they left there as well.
One thing for sure is that Palestine is not the homeland of Jews.
Jews only ruled there for a few hundred years.
{...
The Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah were two related Israelite kingdoms from the Iron Age period of the ancient Southern Levant. After an emergent and large polity was suddenly formed based on the Gibeon-Gibeah plateau and destroyed by Shoshenq I in the first half of 10th century BCE,[1] a return to small city-states was prevalent in the Southern Levant, but between 950 and 900 BCE another large polity emerged in the northern highlands with its capital eventually at Tirzah, that can be considered the precursor of the Kingdom of Israel. [2] The Kingdom was consolidated as an important regional power by the first half of the 9th century BCE,[3] before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE.
...}
That is 960 BC to 722 BC. That is all.
The later Kingdoms of Israel, Judah and Samaria were actually Roman provinces.
You have zero idea what you are babbling about.
Even historians use the Babylonian Talmud.
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
Except it is. Whether or not it is "official" is semantics. I showed Surada that every country in the ME sans Israel practices it and frequently.

Not "every country".
From what I found, only Saudi Arabia ever does things like cut off a hand for theft.
And that is still very rare, as restitution can be substituted.
Google Indonesia
 

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Irrelevant. No one sane wants another Sharia Law run country. Sorry.

I don't particularly like Sharia, but Sharia is not official in any country.
Sharia is only used for family matter like inheritance, when appropriate.
Except it is. Whether or not it is "official" is semantics. I showed Surada that every country in the ME sans Israel practices it and frequently.

Not "every country".
From what I found, only Saudi Arabia ever does things like cut off a hand for theft.
And that is still very rare, as restitution can be substituted.
Retard.
 

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