Israelis Now Bombing Rafah Designated "Safe Zone" Where Civilians Have Been Pushed

[Billo_Really]

Israel did in 2005. Surprise! There was no peace.

And now "international law" (cough) has shifted to the extent that it is impossible for Israel to "end the occupation", because no matter how much Israel withdraws, the occupation goalposts keep moving. Israel withdraws all its troops and civilians, nah still occupied! Israel provides water and electricity - proof of occupation! Israel turns off water and electricity - proof of occupation! Israel opens the crossings to trade goods - proof of occupation! Israel issues work permits to citizens of Gaza to work in Israel - proof of occupation!

I've asked you, specifically, what Israel would need to do to end the occupation, and the only clear answer from you is to end the sea blockade and some vague hand wave towards "open borders", with no clarity on what you mean by that.

The problem with Hamas - and the people of Gaza - is that the "occupation" is ALL of Israel. That's why there is no peace when the occupation ended. Every time Gaza gains more freedom, more independence, they lean heavier into the "resistance". Why? They don't seek peace. They don't seek independence. They don't want prosperity. They want the destruction of the Jewish state and the Jewish people. And they are willing to cause the deaths of their people to try to achieve that goal.

The Jewish people are awake now. We get it. We aren't going to let the people of Gaza have what they want.

How many times have I told you what areas you need to withdraw from? How many times? How many times have I reminded you about UN resolution 242? That has not changed. No goal posts were removed.

You keep fabricating nonsense. I've told you several times what areas are involved in the occupation. I have been very specific. But you don't want to hear that. You refuse to comment on it. You just make up your own bullshit story.

And finally, you are a real piece of shit thinking you can tell others what to do on their own property. As I have said before, you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my roof and see what happens next! I will personally show you why that is the wrong thing to do!

 

[Sixties Fan]

You spew a lot of horseshit! Hamas did not kill over 30,000 Palestinians. You did.

Palestinians do not teach their children to hate Israelis. You do.

There was peace with Hamas for 4 months in 2008, where there was virtually no rocket fire. But that ended when YOU fuckers ran a commando raid into Gaza to kill an Hamas leader.

If Israel wanted peace, then why does it keep breaking treaties?

Israel is an occupational force. Therefore it cannot claim self defense. You are the aggressors. You are the villains. You are the bad guys.

And finally, you Zionist piece of shit, this has nothing to do with Jews. It is not a religious issue. But we both know why you try to make it one, it is because you have no defense for Israeli atrocities.

Now go **** yourself! You racist piece of shit and Islamophobe!

There are no 30,000 civilians. This is a Hamas number.

And you have totally failed to ask "How many Hamas and other terrorist groups' members have been killed"? What are the numbers? How many arrested, how many wounded and out of commission to fight?

Hamas does not give any real numbers, because they do not have any and they do not want people like you to stop screaming as loudly as you can.

The PA got all it wanted in 2005. All Jews out of Gaza.

There was no reason to ever have anything else with Israel, especially firing rockets in 2007 once Hamas took over.

Nothing to do with it being Jews and not Muslims?


1) The Mandate for Palestine, all of it, was to be the homeland of the Jewish people, as it had been before.

2) The British gave 78% of the Mandate to MUSLIMS without caring what the Mandate had said.

3) FIVE Muslim countries attacked Israel when it became independent.

4) Not ONE Arab Palestinian leader demanded of Egypt or Jordan to release Gaza or Judea and Samaria from 1948 to 1967 so that they would build their state on those lands.

5) The Palestinian Liberation Organization with Arafat was created in 1964 when BOTH Egypt and Jordan were holding those lands. But the PLO was about liberating the land held by the Jews. ISRAEL.

6) Give me ANY DATES where Palestinians started to fire rockets into Egypt or Jordan between 1948 and 1967 in order to FREE THEIR OCCUPIED LAND.

7) It is an Islamic idea that non Muslims CANNOT have land once conquered by Islam.


8) All of your TOXIC GARBAGE is nothing else BUT TOXIC GARBAGE, and always will be.


Your foul fingertips will never defeat Israel, will never make Israel bow to what your Christian, Atheist, whatever.......beliefs are when it comes to the RIGHTS Israel has, and the RIGHTS Jews have to defend themselves.


Do not choke on your own toxic garbage. Seriously.

 

[Shusha]

How many times have I told you what areas you need to withdraw from? How many times? How many times have I reminded you about UN resolution 242? That has not changed. No goal posts were removed.

You keep fabricating nonsense. I've told you several times what areas are involved in the occupation. I have been very specific. But you don't want to hear that. You refuse to comment on it. You just make up your own bullshit story.

And finally, you are a real piece of shit thinking you can tell others what to do on their own property. As I have said before, you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my roof and see what happens next! I will personally show you why that is the wrong thing to do!

Alright, for clarity. Is Gaza still occupied?

 

[Sixties Fan]

How many times have I told you what areas you need to withdraw from? How many times? How many times have I reminded you about UN resolution 242? That has not changed. No goal posts were removed.

You keep fabricating nonsense. I've told you several times what areas are involved in the occupation. I have been very specific. But you don't want to hear that. You refuse to comment on it. You just make up your own bullshit story.

And finally, you are a real piece of shit thinking you can tell others what to do on their own property. As I have said before, you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my roof and see what happens next! I will personally show you why that is the wrong thing to do!

This is you, Billo, and all other Jew haters in the world:




The world is primed to believe horrific stories that have no factual basis because their hatred of Jews is stronger than their need for truth.

 

[Sixties Fan]

How many times have I told you what areas you need to withdraw from? How many times? How many times have I reminded you about UN resolution 242? That has not changed. No goal posts were removed.

You keep fabricating nonsense. I've told you several times what areas are involved in the occupation. I have been very specific. But you don't want to hear that. You refuse to comment on it. You just make up your own bullshit story.

And finally, you are a real piece of shit thinking you can tell others what to do on their own property. As I have said before, you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my roof and see what happens next! I will personally show you why that is the wrong thing to do!

Tell us:

1) How many Jews LIVE in Area A?

2 How many Jews LIVE in Area B?

3). How many Jews LIVE in Gaza?

No, Jerusalem is NOT occupied. It was occupied by Jordan between 1948 and 1967. Not one Muslim screamed about it.

No, Area C is NOT occupied by Israel. The PA signed the Oslo Accords agreeing to Areas A and B and educating its people to a peace and living side by side with Israel. That was about 30 years ago.

Did the PA work towards educating its population for a peaceful existence with Israel?

Has UNWRA education been about living peacefully with Israel after the Oslo Accords?


DO Accords have ANY meaning to Muslims? Any at all?

 

[Shusha]

How many times have I told you what areas you need to withdraw from? How many times? How many times have I reminded you about UN resolution 242? That has not changed. No goal posts were removed.

I don't need to be reminded about 242. I disagree with your interpretation of 242. The reason why I disagree with your, and yes, the "world's", interpretation is because it is legally unsupportable.

You keep fabricating nonsense. I've told you several times what areas are involved in the occupation. I have been very specific. But you don't want to hear that. You refuse to comment on it. You just make up your own bullshit story.

It is not a bullshit story. It is a solid legal argument made by many scholars of international law. You don't even have to be an expert on international law to be able to follow the concepts. I have commented, and commented, and commented on it. You remain in your stubborn "I don't know why it is, but it is, because "everyone" says so" mode.

Your claim is that Israel "acquired" land by force in 1967. That they took territory that did not belong to them. That is the "reason" Israel has to return that territory. You can't keep claiming that Israel took territory that did not belong to them, unless you can articulate the borders of the territory that DID belong to them, in 1948, when they declared independence.

Resolution 242 (excerpts - emphasis mine):

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

I ask again: What was the sovereign territory of Israel prior to 1967, to which the other States in the area are obligated to respect and acknowledge Israel's territorial integrity of?

And finally, you are a real piece of shit thinking you can tell others what to do on their own property. As I have said before, you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my roof and see what happens next! I will personally show you why that is the wrong thing to do!

On the contrary, I did the exact opposite. Gaza can do whatever it wants on their own property, as long as they stay on their side of the fence.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

You spew a lot of horseshit! Hamas did not kill over 30,000 Palestinians. You did.

Palestinians do not teach their children to hate Israelis. You do.

There was peace with Hamas for 4 months in 2008, where there was virtually no rocket fire. But that ended when YOU fuckers ran a commando raid into Gaza to kill an Hamas leader.

If Israel wanted peace, then why does it keep breaking treaties?

Israel is an occupational force. Therefore it cannot claim self defense. You are the aggressors. You are the villains. You are the bad guys.

And finally, you Zionist piece of shit, this has nothing to do with Jews. It is not a religious issue. But we both know why you try to make it one, it is because you have no defense for Israeli atrocities.

Now go **** yourself! You racist piece of shit and Islamophobe!

Who are you to decide how a country not your own conducts its own business?

 

[Billo_Really]

There are no 30,000 civilians. This is a Hamas number.

And you have totally failed to ask "How many Hamas and other terrorist groups' members have been killed"? What are the numbers? How many arrested, how many wounded and out of commission to fight?

Hamas does not give any real numbers, because they do not have any and they do not want people like you to stop screaming as loudly as you can.

The PA got all it wanted in 2005. All Jews out of Gaza.

There was no reason to ever have anything else with Israel, especially firing rockets in 2007 once Hamas took over.

Nothing to do with it being Jews and not Muslims?


1) The Mandate for Palestine, all of it, was to be the homeland of the Jewish people, as it had been before.

2) The British gave 78% of the Mandate to MUSLIMS without caring what the Mandate had said.

3) FIVE Muslim countries attacked Israel when it became independent.

4) Not ONE Arab Palestinian leader demanded of Egypt or Jordan to release Gaza or Judea and Samaria from 1948 to 1967 so that they would build their state on those lands.

5) The Palestinian Liberation Organization with Arafat was created in 1964 when BOTH Egypt and Jordan were holding those lands. But the PLO was about liberating the land held by the Jews. ISRAEL.

6) Give me ANY DATES where Palestinians started to fire rockets into Egypt or Jordan between 1948 and 1967 in order to FREE THEIR OCCUPIED LAND.

7) It is an Islamic idea that non Muslims CANNOT have land once conquered by Islam.


8) All of your TOXIC GARBAGE is nothing else BUT TOXIC GARBAGE, and always will be.


Your foul fingertips will never defeat Israel, will never make Israel bow to what your Christian, Atheist, whatever.......beliefs are when it comes to the RIGHTS Israel has, and the RIGHTS Jews have to defend themselves.


Do not choke on your own toxic garbage. Seriously.

That's not an Hamas number, it's from the Palestinian Health Ministry. Why would anyone believe you? A known liar and Israeli apologist. You will lie about anything to keep the truth from getting out about Israeli atrocities.

The only reason you don't like Hamas, is because they eon't kiss your ass like Fatah does. And guess what, you ******* *****, neither will I.

The Mandate gave Zionists 50% of the land when they were only 30% of the population. Then you took another 25% with the use of Zionist terrorism.

You slaughtered 100's of people at Deir Yassen. You drove off 750,000 Arab farmers off their land.

The 5 Arab armies tried to go in and restore order and ensure Palestinian rights, but they lost that bid.

Ever since the British pulled out, you fuckers act like a common street gang of thugs running wild after you heard the news that the police left the area and are not coming back.

Your PM is a terrorist. Your military is about as immoral as it gets. Christ, you even shoot your own hostages

You're just a fucked human being who doesn't deserve a country.

 

[Billo_Really]

Who are you to decide how a country not your own conducts its own business?

I'm not. I'm saying you have no right telling others how to live on their own property.

 

[Billo_Really]

I don't need to be reminded about 242. I disagree with your interpretation of 242. The reason why I disagree with your, and yes, the "world's", interpretation is because it is legally unsupportable.

It is not a bullshit story. It is a solid legal argument made by many scholars of international law. You don't even have to be an expert on international law to be able to follow the concepts. I have commented, and commented, and commented on it. You remain in your stubborn "I don't know why it is, but it is, because "everyone" says so" mode.

Your claim is that Israel "acquired" land by force in 1967. That they took territory that did not belong to them. That is the "reason" Israel has to return that territory. You can't keep claiming that Israel took territory that did not belong to them, unless you can articulate the borders of the territory that DID belong to them, in 1948, when they declared independence.

Resolution 242 (excerpts - emphasis mine):

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

I ask again: What was the sovereign territory of Israel prior to 1967, to which the other States in the area are obligated to respect and acknowledge Israel's territorial integrity of?


On the contrary, I did the exact opposite. Gaza can do whatever it wants on their own property, as long as they stay on their side of the fence.

Yeah, but because of the illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza, Israel did not stay on its side of the fence.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I'm not. I'm saying you have no right telling others how to live on their own property.

That doesn’t make sense.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yeah, but because of the illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza, Israel did not stay on its side of the fence.

Who breached that fence?

Are you sure you’re alright?

 

[Sixties Fan]

That's not an Hamas number, it's from the Palestinian Health Ministry. Why would anyone believe you? A known liar and Israeli apologist. You will lie about anything to keep the truth from getting out about Israeli atrocities.

The only reason you don't like Hamas, is because they eon't kiss your ass like Fatah does. And guess what, you ******* *****, neither will I.

The Mandate gave Zionists 50% of the land when they were only 30% of the population. Then you took another 25% with the use of Zionist terrorism.

You slaughtered 100's of people at Deir Yassen. You drove off 750,000 Arab farmers off their land.

The 5 Arab armies tried to go in and restore order and ensure Palestinian rights, but they lost that bid.

Ever since the British pulled out, you fuckers act like a common street gang of thugs running wild after you heard the news that the police left the area and are not coming back.

Your PM is a terrorist. Your military is about as immoral as it gets. Christ, you even shoot your own hostages

You're just a fucked human being who doesn't deserve a country.

Palestinian Health Ministry iS.....DRUM ROLL>>>>>>


HAMAS


That blows away EVERYTHING ELSE you think you know.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Yeah, but because of the illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza, Israel did not stay on its side of the fence.

Egypt not only has a blockade but just now it has reinforced its wall so that NO Palestinian can EVER invade Egypt.

 

[Billo_Really]

That doesn’t make sense.

Do you think you could tell me what to do in my own house? Just try to pull that shit under my roof and see what happens next!

Conversely, no one tells Israel what to do within its own borders and Israel has no right telling Gazans what to do within theirs.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Israel has no right telling Gazans what to do within theirs.

When it comes to 17 years of constant rocket bombardment
they certainly have.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I'm not. I'm saying you have no right telling others how to live on their own property.

Israel did nothing of the sort. But you insist in believing that Israel, and only Israel does such a thing.

What Israel does is tell the PA and Hamas to stop planning murdering Jews and trying to destroy Israel.

That is a good thing to tell one's neighbors.

The neighbors do not listen. They do not want peace. They want your land, your country, because it is a sovereign Jewish country.

Try something else Billo, your beliefs fall, one by one by one.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Do you think you could tell me what to do in my own house? Just try to pull that shit under my roof and see what happens next!

I haven’t the slightest interest in doing something like that.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Do you think you could tell me what to do in my own house? Just try to pull that shit under my roof and see what happens next!

Conversely, no one tells Israel what to do within its own borders and Israel has no right telling Gazans what to do within theirs.

Who the heck is telling you what to do in your house if it does not affect others in a negative way?

Get off of yourself and stop comparing private residencies with a whole country.

Israel is NOT telling Gaza what to do in its territory. But if Gaza insists in firing rockets, deadly rockets to kill anyone in the Israeli territory, then YES, Israel - like any other sovereign country - WILL do something and put an end to it.

GOT IT NOW????

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You spew a lot of horseshit! Hamas did not kill over 30,000 Palestinians. You did.

Palestinians do not teach their children to hate Israelis. You do.

There was peace with Hamas for 4 months in 2008, where there was virtually no rocket fire. But that ended when YOU fuckers ran a commando raid into Gaza to kill an Hamas leader.

If Israel wanted peace, then why does it keep breaking treaties?

Israel is an occupational force. Therefore it cannot claim self defense. You are the aggressors. You are the villains. You are the bad guys.

And finally, you Zionist piece of shit, this has nothing to do with Jews. It is not a religious issue. But we both know why you try to make it one, it is because you have no defense for Israeli atrocities.

Now go **** yourself! You racist piece of shit and Islamophobe!

There was peace with Hamas for 4 months in 2008, where there was virtually no rocket fire.

It must have been difficult for your barbarian buddies to only commit a few war crimes for 4 entire months.

But that ended when YOU fuckers ran a commando raid into Gaza to kill an Hamas leader.

Was he the guy committing the war crimes?

Israel is an occupational force. Therefore it cannot claim self defense.

Call it whatever you want, they're kicking Arab ass again, like they've done for 75 years.

I know that Sixties Fan is an idiot, but that still makes her a lot smarter than you.
Of course, my dog is a lot smarter than you.