Israeli Treatment of East Jerusalem Palestinians

[Phoenall]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

The Zionists were invited by the British who also facilitated their immigration.

The migration of Jews to the land of Palestine was a direct command in the Mandate, and the arab leaders had agreed to that being implemented. It was only when the grand mufti kicked up a stink and started BLOOD LIBELS that the arab league reneged on the treaties they had signed. That is where the trouble stems from and not from the legal migration of Jews to a land promised to them. Just more ISLAMONAZI greed

 

[montelatici]

In the face of what we are told is the "inhumane treatment" of Palestinians in Israel comes this telling tale of their lives in the Jewish Homeland. Notice that not only do they live the same lives as their Israeli neighbors but that 4 decades after rejecting the offer of citizenship they are quietly seeking and obtaining it:

Quietly, East Jerusalem Palestinians Acquiring Israeli Citizenship
By Riman Barakat - Published May 20, 2012

There has been a trend in recent years of Palestinian permanent residents of East Jerusalem applying for – and getting – Israeli citizenship. Will this trend provide freedom, or further fragment Palestinian national identity?

It’s not immediately clear why. Current residents of East Jerusalem – numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city’s total population – already go about their daily lives, shop at Israeli malls, use Israeli services, frequent Israeli restaurants and bars, send their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and receive Israeli social and health benefits. What does “upgrading their status” from East Jerusalem residents to citizens of Israel add? Why did East Jerusalem residents refuse the Israeli offer of citizenship in 1967, and why are they actively seeking to obtain it now, especially given that citizenship requires them to pledge the controversial oath of allegiance to the Israeli state?

Riman Barakat is the Co-Director of the Israel-Palestine Center for Research and Information (IPCRI) and an East Jerusalem resident.

Quietly, East Jerusalem Palestinians acquiring Israeli citizenship | +972 Magazine

Perhaps they have figured out that Israel will never allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

they never left israel for the palestinian territories.

try again... this time try reality based thinking.... without the anti-semite goggles.

This antisemitic crap coming from racists is frigging annoying. What is antisemitic about saying that Israel will not allow the creation of a Palestinian state. It's a fact.

 

[montelatici]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

Where did you get that shit from, when the muslims held the Jews as slaves under dhimma laws. The arab muslims stole hebron from the Jews 4 times and each time murdered Jews in the process. Jewish girls stolen as sex slaves and forced into producing children for the muslims. The only history that says what you are saying is that written by the ISLAMONAZI's and has been shown to be a pack of LIES

After the Crusaders conquered Palestine, the few Jews that were living in harmony under Muslim rule were massacred, were forced to convert or escaped. Very few Jews returned after Saladin defeated the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. Jews only reappeared when they arrived as Zionists from Europe in the late 19th century.

 

[Phoenall]

By occupying Israel and shooting any that complain about your invasion force I expect.

How big of a coward are you that you, have to spin everything someone say's, until it is more palatable to your comfort zone?

No matter what you want to believe the Israelis are not in breach of any International Laws or any aspects of the Geneva conventions.

The IDF's use of human shields:
BTW, the IOF calls these people "johnnies".


Illegal settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem:
It is unlawful to change the demographics of an area under occupation.

An occupying force will never have sovereign title to that area:

Under IHL, there is occupation when a State exercises an unconsented-to effective control over a territory on which it has no sovereign title.

Occupation law - as a branch of IHL - regulates the partial or total occupation of a territory by a hostile army. Provisions regulating occupation can be found in The Hague Regulations of 1907, the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I of 1977.

Under occupation law, the occupying power does not acquire sovereignty over the occupied territory and is required to respect the existing laws and institutions of the occupied territory as far as possible. It is presumed that occupation will be temporary and that the occupying power shall preserve the status quo ante in the occupied territory.

That is the law, shithead! And there's nothing the Palestinian's, or the Israeli's, or the Oslo agreement, or the Mandate, can do to change it.

So asshole Zionists, such as yourself, need to embrace this horror.

You can also, take it up your ass, for all I care.

So your proposed actions would be in contravention of International Law and the Geneva Conventions

I just gave you 3 examples that show you're full of shit!

You're obviously not even qualified to be in a conversation such as this.

Now apologize to the forum for wasting its bandwidth and go **** yourself!

Just what you have said on other threads about how you would deal with the "Zionists"

And what about the continual use by the Palestinians of human shields then, when they park whole families on top of houses that contain ISLAMONAZI terrorists. Or have children dragged in front of their brave fighters so the Israelis cant return fire.

So this means that if the Palestinians get right of return they cant take it up or build on the land. Because the Jews are doing just that building on land they hold title to, so not against any international laws.

So were are Israel attempting to change the demographics of Palestinian land, try reading the Oslo accords 2 and see what the PLO signed away first. In fact Israel were instrumental in having the P.A declare a state and asked them to negotiate mutual borders as defined in many UN resolutions.

No you gave 3 examples of what you believe are breaches of International law without first studying the actual law and what is allowed.

I am more than qualified because unlike you I do the research first, and then get support from all sides to show that I am correct.

I would say the same to you but being more intelligent and having a larger vocabulary I don't need to resort to anti social semi literate profanities. Doing so shows that you know you are losing the argument fast.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.
It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

Here is the definitive account of how Jews and Christians were treated by the arab muslims

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jews, along with Christians and Zoroastrians, typically had the legal status of dhimmi (protected minority) in the lands conquered by Muslim Arabs, generally applied to non-Muslim minorities. Jews were generally seen as a religious group (not a separate race), thus being a part of the "Arab family".[7]

Dhimmi were subjected to a number of restrictions, the application and severity of which varied with time and place. Restrictions included residency in segregated quarters, obligation to wear distinctive clothing, public subservience to Muslims, prohibitions against proselytizing and against marrying Muslim women, and limited access to the legal system (the testimony of a Jew did not count if contradicted by that of a Muslim). Dhimmis had to pay a special poll tax (the "jizya"), which exempted them from military service, and also from payment of the Zakat alms tax required of Muslims

 

[Billo_Really]

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.
It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

Then prove its a lie!

Show me one major incident of violence between these two groups that occurred prior to the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

Just one! That's all you have to do.

 

[Billo_Really]

At this point the best thing to do is go **** yourself, Princess ... with all due respect.

Well, that's certainly not the first time I've ever heard that.

Usually, it's from a soon-to-be ex.

 

[toastman]

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.
It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

Then prove its a lie!

Show me one major incident of violence between these two groups that occurred prior to the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

Just one! That's all you have to do.

Hebron Massacre.
But if course like a disgusting scumbag, you are going to respond by saying ' the Hebron Massacre was because the Jews wanted the Waling wall to themselves!!'

 

[Billo_Really]

Tell ya what, Billyo. I'll use what connections I have to send in the 1st Marine Division, station the USS Missouri, Alabama and North Carolina off the coast of Gaza and bring them Zionists to their knees and win one for the Gipper. That oughta make your day. Agreed?

Not the Alabama!

I'm not going to get into it, just don't send the Alabama.

 

[Billo_Really]

It seems like a good time to bring this thread back to its purpose:
According to Riman Barakat (Co-Director of the Israel-Palestine Center for Research and Information (IPCRI) and an East Jerusalem resident) and in stark contrast to what some here post, "current Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem – numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city’s total population – already go about their daily lives, shop at Israeli malls, use Israeli services, frequent Israeli restaurants and bars, send their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and receive Israeli social and health benefits."
I read that as they enjoy the same rights and opportunities as the Israeli citizens with whom they share the city. Perhaps that is why those Palestinians are quietly seeking (and obtaining) Israeli citizenship.

Why don't you post what follows that?

Maybe because the article (in your link), doesn't say what you're trying to make it sound like it's saying?

Maybe because your article goes on to describe how shitty the Palestinian's daily life is?

For all we know, of the 350,000 residents referenced in your link, 250,000 of them could be jews illegally settling in an occupied territory. Your link doesn't specifically say those are all Palestinian's.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hebron Massacre.
But if course like a disgusting scumbag, you are going to respond by saying ' the Hebron Massacre was because the Jews wanted the Waling wall to themselves!!'

That was after and Zionists started that riot.

 

[toastman]

Hebron Massacre.
But if course like a disgusting scumbag, you are going to respond by saying ' the Hebron Massacre was because the Jews wanted the Waling wall to themselves!!'

That was after and Zionists started that riot.

Only a scumbag lime yourself would blame the Zionists on the Massacre.
Arabs massacred tens of women and children because of false reports that Jew were killing Arabs.

 

[SAYIT]

At this point the best thing to do is go **** yourself, Princess ... with all due respect.

Well, that's certainly not the first time I've ever heard that.

Usually, it's from a soon-to-be ex.

Women walking (or running) away from a guy with such a sweet disposition? They are women, correct?

 

[SAYIT]

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.
It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

Then prove its a lie!

Show me one major incident of violence between these two groups that occurred prior to the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

Just one! That's all you have to do.

Life for Jews among the "peaceful" Muslim majority has always been dicey at best.

History of the Jews under Muslim rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

At this point the best thing to do is go **** yourself, Princess ... with all due respect.

Well, that's certainly not the first time I've ever heard that.

Usually, it's from a soon-to-be ex.

Women walking (or running) away from a guy with such a sweet disposition? They are women, correct?

Well a few went woof and some went oink

 

[Phoenall]

Hebron Massacre.
But if course like a disgusting scumbag, you are going to respond by saying ' the Hebron Massacre was because the Jews wanted the Waling wall to themselves!!'

That was after and Zionists started that riot.

So it had nothing to do with the LIES and BLOOD LIBELS that the grand mufti spread around then, were he said the Jews had tried to take over the muslims holy sites

Islam and war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arab riots 1920-1921[edit]

Arab riots, Massacres, Pogroms on Jews in Israel / Palestine-1920-1921.[185]

On February 1920, the pogroms by Arabs on Jews in Jerusalem were orchestrated by two young Arab Muslim supremacists (prominent in Arab Palestine), Haj Amin al-Husseini [who later on became the Mufti] at that time served in the British army's intelligence and Aref al-Aref. A Hebron Muslim Sheik shouted: "Whoever has a stick, a gun' a knife or stone, shall go and exterminate the Jews, And in ecstasy screamed: "Adbachu Al Yahud" ['Kill the Jews!'].[186] Amin el-Husseini was using his considerable wealth and growing power to incite the masses.[187] Due to Haj Amin's overt role in instigating the pogrom, the British arrested him.[188][189]

Arab pogroms were launched against Jews in 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1936-1939. According to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, from 1920 to 1966, Arab terrorists murdered 1513 Jewish residents of British Mandatory Palestine.[190]

Islamists turned mosques into hubs instigating violence, "shrine into a center of unholy activity," explaines historian, where "political intrigue and violence were hatched, as were the bloody anti-Jewish riots of 1920, 1929 and 1936. Inside the Temple Mount enclosure, fanatical preachers incited the masses who then went on the rampage with shouts of Allahu akbar (Allah is great) mingled with Idbah al Yahud (Slaughter the Jews)."[191

 

[SAYIT]

It seems like a good time to bring this thread back to its purpose:
According to Riman Barakat (Co-Director of the Israel-Palestine Center for Research and Information (IPCRI) and an East Jerusalem resident) and in stark contrast to what some here post, "current Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem – numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city’s total population – already go about their daily lives, shop at Israeli malls, use Israeli services, frequent Israeli restaurants and bars, send their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and receive Israeli social and health benefits."
I read that as they enjoy the same rights and opportunities as the Israeli citizens with whom they share the city. Perhaps that is why those Palestinians are quietly seeking (and obtaining) Israeli citizenship.

Why don't you post what follows that?

Maybe because the article (in your link), doesn't say what you're trying to make it sound like it's saying?

Maybe because your article goes on to describe how shitty the Palestinian's daily life is?

For all we know, of the 350,000 residents referenced in your link, 250,000 of them could be jews illegally settling in an occupied territory. Your link doesn't specifically say those are all Palestinian's.

Woo. All this time I thought you were an exceedingly obnoxious asshole but it turns out you're really just couching your stupidity in obtusiveness. Read the first 6 words of Barakat's tome and tell me again he isn't specific about the subjects of his article:
"current Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem – numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city’s total population..."
Now tell me how the daily lives of these Palestinians, consisting of shopping at Israeli malls, using Israeli services, frequenting Israeli restaurants and bars, sending their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, receiving Israeli social and health benefits and seeking and obtaining Israeli citizenship, translates into the shitty life you so cling to?

 

[proudveteran06]

Definition of NEGOTIATE

b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>


Ask Pro Palestinians to read the above definition SLOWLY than ask what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate"

There's nothing to negotiate.

Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

67 Borders which were Never accepted before by the Arabs are not accepted by Israel now . Why didn't " International Law" apply to them ? The UN even complied with Egypt and left the area. In addition Gaza , E. Jerusalem and the W. Bank were not " Palestinian" before 1967.

 

[proudveteran06]

Hebron Massacre.
But if course like a disgusting scumbag, you are going to respond by saying ' the Hebron Massacre was because the Jews wanted the Waling wall to themselves!!'

That was after and Zionists started that riot.

Only a scumbag lime yourself would blame the Zionists on the Massacre.
Arabs massacred tens of women and children because of false reports that Jew were killing Arabs.

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.

What else would you expect from a Pro Palestinian ScumBag who lies? Hebron Massacre had nothing to do with " immigration". Even if Jews were migrating to the area; so what??

 

[natstew]

Perhaps they have figured out that Israel will never allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Or maybe their treatment is not as inhumane as some silly posters attempt to portray and that fact plus the Palestinian govt's failure to launch and the availability of Israeli citizenship has made the choice a no-brainer.

I don't think that anyone in their right mind, even a supporter of Israel, would think that the way non-Jews are treated in the occupied territories is not inhumane.

But yes, knowing that there will never be a Palestinian state, would induce non-Jews to seek some sort of citizenship.

Compared to the way Jews would be treated in Palestinian occupied territory Palestinians in Israel are treated like Royalty.

You are not watching the Documentary, "The Jews" on PBS, it shows in your stupid ignorant post.