Israeli Treatment of East Jerusalem Palestinians

[proudveteran06]

I don't see how anyone would agree to that.


Unfortunately, Israel is there, it exists and it's not going anywhere. Wiping them out, is not an option on the table.

At this point, the best thing to do, is to end the occupation of East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank. And if Israel won't do that voluntarily, then they should be forced to.

Forced by whom?

Dildo and his gang of drunken red necks

They should have thought about the " occupation" being a possible consequence before 1967. If the Arabs had won Israel would no longer exist

 

[proudveteran06]

Maybe you should spend some time thinking about why any indigenous people would agree to the forming of a state by people and for the people from a different continent.

I don't see how anyone would agree to that.


Unfortunately, Israel is there, it exists and it's not going anywhere. Wiping them out, is not an option on the table.

At this point, the best thing to do, is to end the occupation of East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank. And if Israel won't do that voluntarily, then they should be forced to.

By occupying Israel and shooting any that complain about your invasion force I expect. No matter what you want to believe the Israelis are not in breach of any International Laws or any aspects of the Geneva conventions. So your proposed actions would be in contravention of International Law and the Geneva Conventions

Too bad these Pro Palestinian Kool- Aid drinkers don't think it's against " International Law" to initiate War for the soul purpose of stealing someone else's land

 

[proudveteran06]

They should stop demanding 67 Borders that were never recognized before, No Israelis allowed in E. Jerusalem where their Holy Sites are , land within the borders that would annex Gaza and the W. Bank having full control over it, and " Right of Return" which in time will annex Israel to the Palestinian State. The Israelis have long figured out the Palestinians will not allow / agree to the Creation of. Jewish State

Your last statement, completely debunks the first.

Why would they demand 67 borders, if they had no intention of agreeing, to the creation, of a jewish state? That makes no sense, whatsoever.

Maybe you should spend a little more time thinking about what you're going to say, before you say it?

They were offered all that they are demanding and still refused to sit down and talk until Israel implemented all their demands. That is not the way to negotiate, and demanding something that has never existed in International law is just stupidity

Definition of NEGOTIATE

b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>


Ask Pro Palestinians to read the above definition SLOWLY than ask what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate"

 

[Billo_Really]

They were offered all that they are demanding and still refused to sit down and talk until Israel implemented all their demands. That is not the way to negotiate, and demanding something that has never existed in International law is just stupidity

There is nothing to offer and nothing to negotiate.

East Jerusalem, is an area under the occupation of a foreign force.

The only thing that has to happen, is for the Israeli's to vacate the area.

The only solution to an occupation, is to end it.

There's nothing to negotiate. Just leave!

 

[Billo_Really]

Definition of NEGOTIATE

b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>


Ask Pro Palestinians to read the above definition SLOWLY than ask what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate"

There's nothing to negotiate.

Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

 

[Billo_Really]

Too bad these Pro Palestinian Kool- Aid drinkers don't think it's against " International Law" to initiate War for the soul purpose of stealing someone else's land

Are you on crack?

Because that is exactly what Israel is doing!

 

[Billo_Really]

They should have thought about the " occupation" being a possible consequence before 1967. If the Arabs had won Israel would no longer exist

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.

It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

 

[Billo_Really]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

 

[toastman]

They were offered all that they are demanding and still refused to sit down and talk until Israel implemented all their demands. That is not the way to negotiate, and demanding something that has never existed in International law is just stupidity

There is nothing to offer and nothing to negotiate.

East Jerusalem, is an area under the occupation of a foreign force.

The only thing that has to happen, is for the Israeli's to vacate the area.

The only solution to an occupation, is to end it.

There's nothing to negotiate. Just leave!

Or else what???

 

[toastman]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

The Zionists were invited by the British who also facilitated their immigration.

 

[Billo_Really]

By occupying Israel and shooting any that complain about your invasion force I expect.

How big of a coward are you that you, have to spin everything someone say's, until it is more palatable to your comfort zone?

No matter what you want to believe the Israelis are not in breach of any International Laws or any aspects of the Geneva conventions.

The IDF's use of human shields:

Neighbours as human shields? The Israel Defense Forces&#8217; "Early Warning Procedure" and international humanitarian law

The " Early Warning Procedure " enables the Israel Defense Forces to obtain assistance by a civilian volunteer, i.e. a neighbour, to arrest a wanted person in the occupied territories. The author argues that, if the fact that protected persons cannot renounce their rights under the Fourth Geneva Convention is taken into account, this policy violates the prohibition whereby protected persons cannot be forced to serve in the occupying power's armed forces and to participate in military operations, as well as the prohibition on the use of human shields. In this context, international humanitarian law is lex specialis in relation to human rights law.

BTW, the IOF calls these people "johnnies".


Illegal settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem:

What does the law say about the establishment of settlements in occupied territory?

It is unlawful under the Fourth Geneva Convention for an occupying power to transfer parts of its own population into the territory it occupies. This means that international humanitarian law prohibits the establishment of settlements, as these are a form of population transfer into occupied territory. Any measure designed to expand or consolidate settlements is also illegal. Confiscation of land to build or expand settlements is similarly prohibited.

It is unlawful to change the demographics of an area under occupation.

An occupying force will never have sovereign title to that area:

Under IHL, there is occupation when a State exercises an unconsented-to effective control over a territory on which it has no sovereign title.

Occupation law - as a branch of IHL - regulates the partial or total occupation of a territory by a hostile army. Provisions regulating occupation can be found in The Hague Regulations of 1907, the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I of 1977.

Under occupation law, the occupying power does not acquire sovereignty over the occupied territory and is required to respect the existing laws and institutions of the occupied territory as far as possible. It is presumed that occupation will be temporary and that the occupying power shall preserve the status quo ante in the occupied territory.

That is the law, shithead! And there's nothing the Palestinian's, or the Israeli's, or the Oslo agreement, or the Mandate, can do to change it.

So asshole Zionists, such as yourself, need to embrace this horror.

You can also, take it up your ass, for all I care.

So your proposed actions would be in contravention of International Law and the Geneva Conventions

I just gave you 3 examples that show you're full of shit!

You're obviously not even qualified to be in a conversation such as this.

Now apologize to the forum for wasting its bandwidth and go **** yourself!

 

[jillian]

In the face of what we are told is the "inhumane treatment" of Palestinians in Israel comes this telling tale of their lives in the Jewish Homeland. Notice that not only do they live the same lives as their Israeli neighbors but that 4 decades after rejecting the offer of citizenship they are quietly seeking and obtaining it:

Quietly, East Jerusalem Palestinians Acquiring Israeli Citizenship
By Riman Barakat - Published May 20, 2012

There has been a trend in recent years of Palestinian permanent residents of East Jerusalem applying for &#8211; and getting &#8211; Israeli citizenship. Will this trend provide freedom, or further fragment Palestinian national identity?

It&#8217;s not immediately clear why. Current residents of East Jerusalem &#8211; numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city&#8217;s total population &#8211; already go about their daily lives, shop at Israeli malls, use Israeli services, frequent Israeli restaurants and bars, send their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and receive Israeli social and health benefits. What does &#8220;upgrading their status&#8221; from East Jerusalem residents to citizens of Israel add? Why did East Jerusalem residents refuse the Israeli offer of citizenship in 1967, and why are they actively seeking to obtain it now, especially given that citizenship requires them to pledge the controversial oath of allegiance to the Israeli state?

Riman Barakat is the Co-Director of the Israel-Palestine Center for Research and Information (IPCRI) and an East Jerusalem resident.

Quietly, East Jerusalem Palestinians acquiring Israeli citizenship | +972 Magazine

Perhaps they have figured out that Israel will never allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

they never left israel for the palestinian territories.

try again... this time try reality based thinking.... without the anti-semite goggles.

 

[SAYIT]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.
It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

 

[SAYIT]

Maybe you should spend some time thinking about why any indigenous people would agree to the forming of a state by people and for the people from a different continent.

I don't see how anyone would agree to that.


Unfortunately, Israel is there, it exists and it's not going anywhere. Wiping them out, is not an option on the table.

At this point, the best thing to do, is to end the occupation of East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank. And if Israel won't do that voluntarily, then they should be forced to.

At this point the best thing to do is go **** yourself, Princess ... with all due respect.

 

[Hossfly]

Definition of NEGOTIATE

b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>


Ask Pro Palestinians to read the above definition SLOWLY than ask what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate"

There's nothing to negotiate.

Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

Tell ya what, Billyo. I'll use what connections I have to send in the 1st Marine Division, station the USS Missouri, Alabama and North Carolina off the coast of Gaza and bring them Zionists to their knees and win one for the Gipper. That oughta make your day. Agreed?

 

[SAYIT]

It seems like a good time to bring this thread back to its purpose:
According to Riman Barakat (Co-Director of the Israel-Palestine Center for Research and Information (IPCRI) and an East Jerusalem resident) and in stark contrast to what some here post, "current Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem &#8211; numbering over 350,000, or 38% of the city&#8217;s total population &#8211; already go about their daily lives, shop at Israeli malls, use Israeli services, frequent Israeli restaurants and bars, send their children to study at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and receive Israeli social and health benefits."
I read that as they enjoy the same rights and opportunities as the Israeli citizens with whom they share the city. Perhaps that is why those Palestinians are quietly seeking (and obtaining) Israeli citizenship.

 

[Phoenall]

They should have thought about the " occupation" being a possible consequence before 1967. If the Arabs had won Israel would no longer exist

You just insist on telling that same lame ass lie over and over and over.

It doesn't matter how many times you tell it, it's still a lie.

How do you work that one out when it was stated by the arab league that they were to destroy Israel and force the Jews into the sea. It is still part of the P.A. charter to rid Palestine of all Jews, that is all of Palestine including Israel. It is also a part of their religion to "KILL ALL THE JEWS"

 

[Phoenall]

Too bad these Pro Palestinian Kool- Aid drinkers don't think it's against " International Law" to initiate War for the soul purpose of stealing someone else's land

Are you on crack?

Because that is exactly what Israel is doing!

Were are Israel stealing land then, when the land was Jewish pre 1948 to begin with and it was the Palestinians that stole it after getting their buts kicked.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you suggesting that if there weren't Jewish immigration to the ME the Arabs would have been O.K. with the JEWISH STATE among the " natives' to the land??? Another moron " speaks"

Palestinian-arabs and Palestinian-jews got along fine living next to each other for century's until the arrogant, asshole, Zionists showed up on the scene, importing their racist, apartheid violence along with them.

Where did you get that shit from, when the muslims held the Jews as slaves under dhimma laws. The arab muslims stole hebron from the Jews 4 times and each time murdered Jews in the process. Jewish girls stolen as sex slaves and forced into producing children for the muslims. The only history that says what you are saying is that written by the ISLAMONAZI's and has been shown to be a pack of LIES

 

[Phoenall]

Definition of NEGOTIATE

b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>


Ask Pro Palestinians to read the above definition SLOWLY than ask what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate"

There's nothing to negotiate.

Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

And so do the ISLAMONAZI Palestinians and stop making stupid demands.


Now read the Geneva conventions and see what they say about occupied land, and what the people have to do to retain that land ?