Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce

[georgephillip]

What are you most "proud" of "veteran"?
Taking part in illegal invasions or occupations?
Thanks for your stupidity, Slave.

 

[georgephillip]

avneri lives by stealing-----he has hardly worked a day in his life

Without lies you wouldn't have much to bore us with, would you?

"In June 1957 Avnery suggested that Israel aid Palestinians in overthrowing the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan (a "product of imperialism"); Israel would then form a federation with the new Palestinian Jordanian state.[12] In the late 1950s Avnery was among the founders of the group Semitic Action, which argued for a regional federation of Israel and its neighbors."

Feel free to link to some of your many (imaginary) accomplishments.

Uri Avnery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[irosie91]

he drew a salary for that? by now ----with all his "bright ideas" he must be very rich

 

[proudveteran06]

What are you most "proud" of "veteran"?
Taking part in illegal invasions or occupations?
Thanks for your stupidity, Slave.

What " illegal invasions?" " Illegal l occuoations?" Where was " Palestine" before 1967? Who initiated the 1967 War? What about Hamas even now insisting Israel doesn't have the right to exist?

If the Arabs had won the 1967 War and Israel didn't exist somehow I don't think you would be whining about " Occupation" Maybe you can tell us why the 1967 Borders were Never recognized and still aren't?

Thanks for your stupidity; You moron

 

[georgephillip]

What are you most "proud" of "veteran"?
Taking part in illegal invasions or occupations?
Thanks for your stupidity, Slave.

What " illegal invasions?" " Illegal l occuoations?" Where was " Palestine" before 1967? Who initiated the 1967 War? What about Hamas even now insisting Israel doesn't have the right to exist?

If the Arabs had won the 1967 War and Israel didn't exist somehow I don't think you would be whining about " Occupation" Maybe you can tell us why the 1967 Borders were Never recognized and still aren't?

Thanks for your stupidity; You moron

Israel struck first in '67 days before it shot up the USS Liberty killing 34 Americans and nineteen years after one-third of the entire population of Mandate Palestine inflicted a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of all Palestinians.

All three crimes were part of a deliberate Zionist policy of "creeping annexation" and "creeping transfer" best summed up by Moshe Dayan in 1970:

"...we must tell the Palestinian refugees in the territories that 'we have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where the process leads.'"

Chomsky, Failed States p.191

 

[Hossfly]

What are you most "proud" of "veteran"?
Taking part in illegal invasions or occupations?
Thanks for your stupidity, Slave.

What " illegal invasions?" " Illegal l occuoations?" Where was " Palestine" before 1967? Who initiated the 1967 War? What about Hamas even now insisting Israel doesn't have the right to exist?

If the Arabs had won the 1967 War and Israel didn't exist somehow I don't think you would be whining about " Occupation" Maybe you can tell us why the 1967 Borders were Never recognized and still aren't?

Thanks for your stupidity; You moron

Israel struck first in '67 days before it shot up the USS Liberty killing 34 Americans and nineteen years after one-third of the entire population of Mandate Palestine inflicted a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of all Palestinians.

All three crimes were part of a deliberate Zionist policy of "creeping annexation" and "creeping transfer" best summed up by Moshe Dayan in 1970:

"...we must tell the Palestinian refugees in the territories that 'we have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where the process leads.'"

Chomsky, Failed States p.191

Georgie, as time goes by you will learn that if you try to match wits or tangle with PV you will be severely mauled. Just a friendly warning.

 

[georgephillip]

Be afraid, Hossie...the End in Near!

 

[Hossfly]

Be afraid, Hossie...the End in Near!

I'm afraid but you should be too. Irosie and PV went to the same school.

 

[proudveteran06]

What are you most "proud" of "veteran"?
Taking part in illegal invasions or occupations?
Thanks for your stupidity, Slave.

What " illegal invasions?" " Illegal l occuoations?" Where was " Palestine" before 1967? Who initiated the 1967 War? What about Hamas even now insisting Israel doesn't have the right to exist?

If the Arabs had won the 1967 War and Israel didn't exist somehow I don't think you would be whining about " Occupation" Maybe you can tell us why the 1967 Borders were Never recognized and still aren't?

Thanks for your stupidity; You moron

Israel struck first in '67 days before it shot up the USS Liberty killing 34 Americans and nineteen years after one-third of the entire population of Mandate Palestine inflicted a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of all Palestinians.

All three crimes were part of a deliberate Zionist policy of "creeping annexation" and "creeping transfer" best summed up by Moshe Dayan in 1970:

"...we must tell the Palestinian refugees in the territories that 'we have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where the process leads.'"

Chomsky, Failed States p.191

100,000 deployed

Egypt: 240,000
Syria, Jordan, and Iraq: 307,000
957 combat aircraft
2,504 tanks[2]
Total troops: 547,000
240,000 deployed



Casualties and losses



776[3]–983[4] killed
4,517 wounded
15 captured[4]
46 aircraft destroyed

Egypt – 10,000[5]–15,000[6] killed or missing
4,338 captured[7]
Jordan – 6,000[8][9][10] killed or missing
533 captured[7]
Syria – 2,500 killed
591 captured
Iraq – 10 killed
30 wounded
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5,500+ captured
hundreds of tanks destroyed
452+ aircraft destroyed










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The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback," or حرب 1967, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or Third Arab-Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.

The war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise bombing raids against Egyptian air-fields after a period of high tension that included an Israeli raid into the Jordanian-controlled West Bank,[11][12] Israeli initiated aerial clashes over Syrian territory,[13] Syrian artillery attacks against Israeli settlements in the vicinity of the border followed by Israeli response against Syrian positions in the Golan Heights and encroachments of increasing intensity and frequency (initiated by Israel) into the demilitarized zones along the Syrian border[14] and culminating in the Egyptian imposition of a naval blockade on Eilat and ordering of the evacuation from the Sinai Peninsula of the U.N. buffer force.

Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.





Contents
[hide] 1 Background and summary of events leading to war
2 Military preparations 2.1 Arab preparations
2.2 Israeli preparations

3 The fighting fronts 3.1 Preliminary air attack
3.2 Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula 3.2.1 Advance on Arish

3.3 West Bank 3.3.1 Israeli cabinet meets
3.3.2 Initial response
3.3.3 Jordanian battalion at Government House
3.3.4 Israeli counter offensives
3.3.5 The Old City (June 7)

3.4 Golan Heights
3.5 Weapons

4 Conclusion of conflict and post-war situation
5 Casualties
6 Controversies 6.1 Preemptive strike v. unjustified attack
6.2 Allegations of atrocities against Egyptian soldiers
6.3 Allegations of military support from the U.S., UK and Soviet Union
6.4 The USS Liberty incident

7 Displaced populations 7.1 Arab
7.2 Jews in Arab countries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

Israel started the 67 War? Only in your dreams. In addition Syria was shooting at Israeli civilians from the GOLAN HEIGHTS. Regarding what Moishe Dayan said, He was right. The solution was for them to accept a State before 1967 which they rejected. Israel " inflicted a Jewish State by force?" This is why there will NEVER be peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Even IF they go back to the Borders that were NEVER recognized before ( they won't)it will not matter to the Palestinians. Your demented mindset says it all. Just more proof there really isn't anything to " negotiate"

Reminder. Link Each Copy and Paste.

 

[georgephillip]

There's nothing to "negotiate" because the US and Israel have rejected every Arab peace proposal since 1976:

"The basic terms of the international consensus on the Arab-Israel conflict were expressed in a resolution brought to the Security Council in January 1976, calling for a settlement on the pre-June 1967 borders (the Green Line) with 'appropriate arrangements...to guarantee...the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries,' including Israel and a new Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The resolution was backed by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and the PLO -- in fact 'prepared' by the PLO according to Israel's UN Ambassador Haim Herzog, now President. It was strenuously opposed by Israel and vetoed by the United States, once again in 1980.

"These events are -- automatically -- out of history, along with other facts unacceptable to US power, including repeated PLO initiatives through the 1980s calling for negotiations with Israel leading to mutual recognition... "

Middle East Diplomacy: Continuities and Changes, by Noam Chomsky

 

[proudveteran06]

There's nothing to "negotiate" because the US and Israel have rejected every Arab peace proposal since 1976:

"The basic terms of the international consensus on the Arab-Israel conflict were expressed in a resolution brought to the Security Council in January 1976, calling for a settlement on the pre-June 1967 borders (the Green Line) with 'appropriate arrangements...to guarantee...the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries,' including Israel and a new Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The resolution was backed by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and the PLO -- in fact 'prepared' by the PLO according to Israel's UN Ambassador Haim Herzog, now President. It was strenuously opposed by Israel and vetoed by the United States, once again in 1980.

"These events are -- automatically -- out of history, along with other facts unacceptable to US power, including repeated PLO initiatives through the 1980s calling for negotiations with Israel leading to mutual recognition... "



There is nothing to " negotiate" because it calls for Israel to make ALL the concessions. When two or more parties " negotiate" it means that BOTH ( or more ) parties have to be willing to compromise sonewhere along the way. Exactly what are the Palestinians willing to do? Oh.. I forgot. The answer is NOTHING.

In addition to insisting that Israel return to boundries that they NEVER recognized in the first place the " Saudi Peace Plan" and Abbas are demanding " Right of Return". Just more proof that the 1967 Boundries never meant anything before 1967 and don't mean anything now.

You are nothing but a Stupid Pro- Palestinian with a demented I.Q ( doubt you even have one) Keep drinking the Kool- Aid

 

[proudveteran06]

Forgot one thing; Part of the Armistice Truce " Peace Agreement" was that the Israelis NOT be denied access to their holiest sites in West Jerusalem. Of course they were denied anyway. They will never be denied again. Abbas has made it perfectly clear that there will NEVER be any Israelis even allowed in " Palestine" Racist? Naaaaa. Not in your twisted demented Pro- Palestinian Drink the Kool- Aid " mind". For that reason alone forget the Borders that they refused to recognize ( and still don't) in the first place .

 

[georgephillip]

1948 Mandate Palestine.
650,000 Jews inflict a Jewish State on 1.2 million Arabs.
Read up on popular sovereignty:

"Popular sovereignty or the sovereignty of the people is the principle that the legitimacy of the state is created and sustained by the will or consent of its people, who are the source of all political power."

That would be ALL the people who are the source of ALL political power, Imbecile.

 

[irosie91]

try again georgie---- sovereign nations have the right to determine their own demographics which is why partitions between parties in conflict have been so popular and effective historically Your dream of allowing majorties to commit genocide upon minorities-----is frowned upon by-------ETHICISTS. The ethical considerations are a bone in the throat of the ummah----(maybe that is why its members SLIT THROATS)

 

[SAYIT]

There's nothing to "negotiate" because the US and Israel have rejected every Arab peace proposal since 1976:

"The basic terms of the international consensus on the Arab-Israel conflict were expressed in a resolution brought to the Security Council in January 1976, calling for a settlement on the pre-June 1967 borders (the Green Line) with 'appropriate arrangements...to guarantee...the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries,' including Israel and a new Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The resolution was backed by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and the PLO -- in fact 'prepared' by the PLO according to Israel's UN Ambassador Haim Herzog, now President. It was strenuously opposed by Israel and vetoed by the United States, once again in 1980.

"These events are -- automatically -- out of history, along with other facts unacceptable to US power, including repeated PLO initiatives through the 1980s calling for negotiations with Israel leading to mutual recognition... "



There is nothing to " negotiate" because it calls for Israel to make ALL the concessions. When two or more parties " negotiate" it means that BOTH ( or more ) parties have to be willing to compromise sonewhere along the way. Exactly what are the Palestinians willing to do? Oh.. I forgot. The answer is NOTHING.

In addition to insisting that Israel return to boundries that they NEVER recognized in the first place the " Saudi Peace Plan" and Abbas are demanding " Right of Return". Just more proof that the 1967 Boundries never meant anything before 1967 and don't mean anything now.

You are nothing but a Stupid Pro- Palestinian with a demented I.Q ( doubt you even have one) Keep drinking the Kool- Aid

In all fairness to Abbas, he recently said that Israel belongs to the Israelis (sounds like recognition) and that, in his mind, the right of return is negotiable. Of course, the duly elected gov't of the "Palestinians" disagrees and slammed Abbas for having the temerity to offer some hope for a peaceful solution:

Stung by mounting criticism – including a rally in Gaza where protesters set fire to his portrait – the Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, back-pedalled yesterday on his historic compromise over the "right of return" for Palestinian refugees – a major sticking-point in Middle East peace-making.

In a TV interview last week, Mr Abbas said he no longer had an automatic right to return to live in Safed, in northern Galilee where he was born in 1935, now part of Israel.

"It's my right to see it, but not to live there ..."

Following the criticism, Mr Abbas told Egyptian television he had been expressing his personal views, not official policy. "What I said about Safed is my personal stance."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sYC4AQ&usg=AFQjCNGOBzRWpw0bznmAEcQHKdPiIjOJJg

 

[SAYIT]

There's nothing to "negotiate" because the US and Israel have rejected every Arab peace proposal since 1976:

"The basic terms of the international consensus on the Arab-Israel conflict were expressed in a resolution brought to the Security Council in January 1976, calling for a settlement on the pre-June 1967 borders (the Green Line) with 'appropriate arrangements...to guarantee...the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries,' including Israel and a new Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The resolution was backed by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and the PLO -- in fact 'prepared' by the PLO according to Israel's UN Ambassador Haim Herzog, now President. It was strenuously opposed by Israel and vetoed by the United States, once again in 1980.

"These events are -- automatically -- out of history, along with other facts unacceptable to US power, including repeated PLO initiatives through the 1980s calling for negotiations with Israel leading to mutual recognition... "

Middle East Diplomacy: Continuities and Changes, by Noam Chomsky

Every Arab "peace" proposal demands the right of return of Arab "refugees" to Israel, amounting to the demographic destruction of the Jewish Homeland. What Chumpsky refers to as Arab "Middle East Diplomacy" is just a euphamism the destruction of Israel.

 

[georgephillip]

try again georgie---- sovereign nations have the right to determine their own demographics which is why partitions between parties in conflict have been so popular and effective historically Your dream of allowing majorties to commit genocide upon minorities-----is frowned upon by-------ETHICISTS. The ethical considerations are a bone in the throat of the ummah----(maybe that is why its members SLIT THROATS)

Has the sovereign, yet UNETHICAL, state of Israel decided on its Eastern border, yet?

I'm not sure if nations enjoy the right of sovereignty?
It didn't work out too well for Russell Means

Sooner or later Israel will have to decide between being a democratic or Jewish state.

 

[irosie91]

Israel cannot make a UNILATERAL decision on its eastern border ---there are other countries involved

There is no demographic requirement for a DEMOCRACY-----try again---- Even maldives which requires that ALL CITIZENS be muslims can be a democracy

 

[irosie91]

your posts wax idiotic tinnie------in fact you have spit in the face of a highly talented and PRODUCTIVE american------in the world in which we live----sovereign nations do control their own demographics. Your insistence that Israel be treated as an EXCEPTION -----marks you as the bigot which you are--------besides the idiot which you are

 

[proudveteran06]

1948 Mandate Palestine.
650,000 Jews inflict a Jewish State on 1.2 million Arabs.
Read up on popular sovereignty:

"Popular sovereignty or the sovereignty of the people is the principle that the legitimacy of the state is created and sustained by the will or consent of its people, who are the source of all political power."

That would be ALL the people who are the source of ALL political power, Imbecile.

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Palestinian Authority police



TEL AVIV – Major Palestinian factions, including terrorist organizations, reject Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ United Nations statehood request, arguing Abbas does not represent the Palestinian people.

Hamas spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri said Abbas’ U.N. petition “lacks any legitimacy.”






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“Abbas speech includes a huge contradiction between his own personal point of view and the great majority of the Palestinian people,” he told WND.

Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, is at odds with Abbas’ Fatah party.

Abu Mujaheed, spokesperson for the Popular Resistance Committees, a major Gazan jihadist group, told WND Abbas’ U.N. petition “was a spectacle for the media.”

“Palestinians know it will bring our cause no where,” he said. “For Palestinians, the borders are based on 1948 (all of Israel) and this is not negotiable.”

The above is not going to happen; You moron. Israel is here to stay and you and your ilk better get used to the idea. When vermon like you are asked what there is to " negotiate" about under the above circumstances there is nobody home. Just more proof that the 1967 Borders are NOT " negotiable".

Mujaheed blasted Abbas as not representing the majority of the Palestinian people.

“He only represents a minority, while the great majority are still
committed to the right of return and the release of all Palestine,” he
told WND.