Israeli-Palestinian peace talks had no chance, say analysts

[toastman]

BTW, it wasn't Israel that attacked those 5 Arab States in 1948 and called for its annihilation , it was the other way around.
And that war was the one that paved the way for the other ones.

The only reason those arab states went in there, was to ensure law and order for the indigenous, non-Jewish population, that was being terrorized and murdered on a daily basis, after British authorities vacated the area.

If Zionists hadn't of been so racist and violent with arab residents, there would've never been an arab invasion.

And that's not the inly reason they went in there. Even before Israel became a state, they threatened to "push the Jews to the sea if the Jewish state became a fact"
In fact, the day after Israel declared independence, they attacked, like they said they would.

 

[Phoenall]

Bullshit!! Israeli attacks were a result of Arab aggression.


In fact, Arab aggression is responsible for every war fought with Israel.

Arabs were not the ones who moved to Palestine, Zionists were.





And you can verify all the numbers from this link.

Did and the first words I see is that the figures are from that bastion of ANTISEMITISM the British government.
Then I see the words RECORDED IMMIGRATION which does not take into account those arab muslims walking across the border and setting up camp.

But still the Jewish numbers were still outmanned by at least 14 to 1 according to your link

In absolute terms the Jewish population more than doubled, and in percentage terms rose from below 10 per cent to over 17 per cent during this period.

And you link further states that very few Zionists took up the chance to migrate

I trembled lest the British Government would call me and ask: 'Tell us, what is this Zionist Organization? Where are they, your Zionists?

 

[Billo_Really]

Again, those 5 Arab states had nothing to do with Israel Palestine.

Except for being the only ones caring about law and order after the British left.

They had no right to attack Israel from all sides.

Zionists had no right attacking non-Jewish residents.

They attacked Israel' not the other way around.

After Zionists attacked non-Jewish residents.

This is what I mean about being deliberately dishonest. You keep trying to start the clock when the arabs invaded and refuse to deal with the events that led up to the decision to invade. The clock starts from the moment where there was peace, to the moment there was no peace. And the moment there was no peace, was when Zionists migrated into the area.

And if they went in to help the Palestinians, why did the Palestinians end up losing 50% of the land allotted to them in the partition plan and still not have a state??

Because half the country's didn't care enough to send significant troops. They sent advisors. And the couple of country's that did, disagreed on the goal and had different agendas.

Not to mention the 700 000 refugees that were the end result of the war!
Ya, some help.

Those 700,000 refugees, were the result of Jewish terrorism.

Funny, you always whine about how Israel attacked first in 1967, but when 5 Arab states attacked Israel first, you find some bullshit way to justify it.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm saying things don't happen in a vacuum. There is a cause and effect in the real world. Those arab nations didn't all of a sudden get up one day and say, "I know, let's attack the Zionists! That should be fun!"

 

[Phoenall]

And besides that, Oslo is invalid.

The very existence of the PA was part of the Oslo accord. If you claim Oslo invalid the so is the PA, which puts leadership back to the PLO, of which Hamas is not a member. It then makes Hamas's "election" and control of gaza illegal....etc., etc., putting Israel as the "authority" in both the WB and gaza.

Every agreement is a process, each side gives a little, small steps up but moving in the right direction. Remove a step, it all falls down.
You can't go from the 13rd floor to the 100th without building a good foundation, well planned floor and the step leading to the top. Negotiation is not an express elevator.

Israel has been trying but for Abbas to make an outrageous demand instead of what was already agreed, of course Israel would say no.

The very existence of the PA was part of the Oslo accord. If you claim Oslo invalid the so is the PA,...

The PA was originally created and Arafat was appointed by foreign powers.

However, the Palestinians created a new government with the Palestinian basic law (constitution) of 2002 and amended in 2003. This amendment created the position of prime minister. The cabinet and almost all executive power was moved away from the president.

The unity government of March 2007 was the last legally constituted government in Palestine. Remnants of that legal government are still in Gaza while the government in the West Bank is based on lies.

Yes he was by foreign ARAB MUSLIM POWERS


Only to you, to the UN the P.A. are the representatives of the Palestinian people. Or are you now saying that Palestine does not exist again and they have no rights at all ?

 

[Billo_Really]

Did and the first words I see is that the figures are from that bastion of ANTISEMITISM the British government.
Then I see the words RECORDED IMMIGRATION which does not take into account those arab muslims walking across the border and setting up camp.

But still the Jewish numbers were still outmanned by at least 14 to 1 according to your link

In absolute terms the Jewish population more than doubled, and in percentage terms rose from below 10 per cent to over 17 per cent during this period.

And you link further states that very few Zionists took up the chance to migrate

I trembled lest the British Government would call me and ask: 'Tell us, what is this Zionist Organization? Where are they, your Zionists?

All that proves is arabs were the majority population and it was their land you took by force.

 

[Phoenall]

Load of crap site. Who are these clowns anyway.

People who know a lot more that you do and are not afraid to repeat it.

The fact remains that Oslo is still in existence and one more the Palestinians are in breach of International Law. Time for some UN resolutions to curb their illegal behaviour.

That may be true but they are still lying sacks of crap propagandists.

No that is the ISLAMONAZI's and this has been proven with all the BLOOD LIBELS

 

[Phoenall]

That may be true but they are still lying sacks of crap propagandists.

Oh please Tinmore! You say that about all people who don't kiss Palestinian ass!
Not to mention, you are an expert Palestinian propagandist

I just proved two lies and backed it up with legal documents.

I am not the one spewing propaganda.

ERRRR! No you didn't you just gave your interpretation.

 

[Phoenall]

peace talks? What they need is to talk about the arab surrender. Peace talks are when you have a stalemate, not when you're getting the crap beaten out of you, over and over and over again, like the arabs are.

it is israel who is worried about its legitimacy.

link and evidence

 

[Billo_Really]

And that's not the inly reason they went in there. Even before Israel became a state, they threatened to "push the Jews to the sea if the Jewish state became a fact"

Because that would immediately disenfranchise the majority of non-Jewish residents.

In fact, the day after Israel declared independence, they attacked, like they said they would.

And Zionists declared independence when they had no legal jurisdiction to do so and against the request by the UN not to.

 

[Phoenall]

BTW, it wasn't Israel that attacked those 5 Arab States in 1948 and called for its annihilation , it was the other way around.
And that war was the one that paved the way for the other ones.

The only reason those arab states went in there, was to ensure law and order for the indigenous, non-Jewish population, that was being terrorized and murdered on a daily basis, after British authorities vacated the area.

If Zionists hadn't of been so racist and violent with arab residents, there would've never been an arab invasion.

TRY AGAIN and this time look at what Husseini said and did before the partition plan

 

[Phoenall]

Wow! You just proved...... Nothing.

Not true.

I proved you're not willing to discuss this issue honestly.

Are you seeing as you use biased sources all the time.

 

[Phoenall]

The system will not allow me to give you a positive rep, so...

No need to.

Just know I got your back and this liberal don't run!

Don't make me laugh, you are as far removed from being a Liberal as a pig is from being a muslim.

 

[toastman]

Again, those 5 Arab states had nothing to do with Israel Palestine.

Except for being the only ones caring about law and order after the British left.

They had no right to attack Israel from all sides.

Zionists had no right attacking non-Jewish residents.


After Zionists attacked non-Jewish residents.

This is what I mean about being deliberately dishonest. You keep trying to start the clock when the arabs invaded and refuse to deal with the events that led up to the decision to invade. The clock starts from the moment where there was peace, to the moment there was no peace. And the moment there was no peace, was when Zionists migrated into the area.

Because half the country's didn't care enough to send significant troops. They sent advisors. And the couple of country's that did, disagreed on the goal and had different agendas.

Not to mention the 700 000 refugees that were the end result of the war!
Ya, some help.

Those 700,000 refugees, were the result of Jewish terrorism.

Funny, you always whine about how Israel attacked first in 1967, but when 5 Arab states attacked Israel first, you find some bullshit way to justify it.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm saying things don't happen in a vacuum. There is a cause and effect in the real world. Those arab nations didn't all of a sudden get up one day and say, "I know, let's attack the Zionists! That should be fun!"

PMS Billo, none if the crap you just posted has anything to do with the fact that the 5 Arab states absolutely without doubt started the war.
And who in invited ti restore law and order.

And your statement about me not being able to deal with the events leading up to the war is extremely ironic when it is YOU , who cannot deal with the events leading up to the 6 day war that lead to Israels pre emptive strike.

 

[toastman]

And BTW, the Israelis also didn't wake up one day and say :hey, lets bomb Egypt!"

 

[Phoenall]

Wow! You just proved...... Nothing.

Not true.

I proved you're not willing to discuss this issue honestly.

Sure I am. Problem with you is that you get too emotional and start cursing at everyone.
And you know very well that I almost always address your points and refute them. So you're not fooling anyone PMS Billo.

Its not PMS it is the batteries that have gone dead in his rampant rabbit

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh please Tinmore! You say that about all people who don't kiss Palestinian ass!
Not to mention, you are an expert Palestinian propagandist

I just proved two lies and backed it up with legal documents.

I am not the one spewing propaganda.

What did you prove liar??

I proved that you were wrong, once again, by showing you that Fayyad WAS Prime Minister of Palestine a while ago.

You didn't prove me wrong.

The liars called Fayyad prime minister.

The law said he was not.

 

[toastman]

I just proved two lies and backed it up with legal documents.

I am not the one spewing propaganda.

What did you prove liar??

I proved that you were wrong, once again, by showing you that Fayyad WAS Prime Minister of Palestine a while ago.

You didn't prove me wrong.

The liars called Fayyad prime minister.

The law said he was not.

Yes I did. He was briefly Prime Minister if Palestine. You said he wasn't.
I probed you wrong.

BTW what law said he was not?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What did you prove liar??

I proved that you were wrong, once again, by showing you that Fayyad WAS Prime Minister of Palestine a while ago.

You didn't prove me wrong.

The liars called Fayyad prime minister.

The law said he was not.

Yes I did. He was briefly Prime Minister if Palestine. You said he wasn't.
I probed you wrong.

BTW what law said he was not?

I posted it already.

You really should try to keep up.

 

[toastman]

You posted nothing that said Fayyad was not PM .

 

[P F Tinmore]

You posted nothing that said Fayyad was not PM .

His first, appointment on 15 June 2007, which was justified by the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas on the basis of "national emergency", was not confirmed by the Palestinian Legislative Council.[1]

Article 79

4. Neither the Prime Minister nor any of the Ministers shall assume their duties until they have obtained the confidence of the Legislative Council.

2003 Amended Basic Law | The Palestinian Basic Law

What conclusion can you draw from those two statements?