Israeli Incitements...

...realize that these atrocities are a result of an oppressive occupation and the destruction of a people and culture that had nothing to do with the Holocaust...

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Pack up and leave what's left of Rump Palestine while you still can...

Get your family and people out of there, while there is still time...

You've lost...

Go away...
Best you join the IDF Chicken Little, I don't see anyone moving...Cheerleading alone like a sissy won't do it!
 
...realize that these atrocities are a result of an oppressive occupation and the destruction of a people and culture that had nothing to do with the Holocaust...

the_worlds_smallest_violin-s511x284-104397.jpg


Pack up and leave what's left of Rump Palestine while you still can...

Get your family and people out of there, while there is still time...

You've lost...

Go away...
Best you join the IDF Chicken Little, I don't see anyone moving...Cheerleading alone like a sissy won't do it!
You don't see anyone moving?

From your own propaganda websites...


FourMaps.jpg


The map seems to tell a different story...

Pretty soon, we'll be asking ourselves how many Palestinians can dance on the head of a pin...

As they stand on top of each other's shoulders, stacked ten-high, perched on a postage stamp...

You go right ahead and stick to your plan... stay where you are... get your kids killed... make your families even more miserable...

Or do the sane thing... pack up... get your people the hell out of that insane asylum... and go build new and better and happier lives elsewhere...

For your family, if nothing else...

Get a clue...

You've lost...

Take the hint...

Leave...

While you still can...
 
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You've lost...Take the hint...Leave...While you still can...

Years ago until the Dolphinarium bombing, I was actually a supporter of the 2-state solution, but after that bombing and its aftermath with the mass celebrations by the arab muslims, along with stepping back and more broadly reviewing the mideast situation where arab muslims are doing much the same to every other non-muslim group, I began to realize that only a mass expulsion of the arabs who call themselves palestinians was the only rational solution.

I don't care who/what your cause is, what your grievances are, etc., a people and culture that deliberately targets hundreds of 14 year olds - and then celebrates their mass murder in a carnival-like atmosphere - are absolute garbage and can no longer be respected or treated as human.

That attack had a deep effect on me, and has eliminated any consideration of the arab muslim perspective/narrative as anything but a plastic fig leaf/cover for a Big Lie. A real, legitimate people would never resort to such actions, nor would they mass celebrate it as if it were mardi gras.

Even though I'd known for years that this was never a land dispute, and that there had to be SOME rational arab muslims amongst them who just wanted to live out their lives in peace, they lost me forever as someone who could respect and at least listen to their grievances and defend their perspective. But after that bombing, they lost me, and can never recover my sympathies. Had Israel ethnically cleansed them all out, as so many other countries like Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait, and Iraq have done, it would have been wholly justifiable.

So ultimately kondor3 you are correct, it would be best if the arab muslims moved en masse on their own out of the west bank and gaza to jordan, syria, saudi arabia, iran or some other region that would be more suitable for them. They have no future in their current locations.
 
...So ultimately kondor3 you are correct, it would be best if the arab muslims moved en masse on their own out of the west bank and gaza to jordan, syria, saudi arabia, iran or some other region that would be more suitable for them. They have no future in their current locations.
Agreed.

A one-state solution is impossible.

A two-state solution is impossible.

Leaving the removal of one side or the other as the only logical alternative.

Losers do not dictate terms.

And the Palestinians are the clear losers in this 66-year-long sporadic asymmetrical warfare.

At this very late juncture, it would probably be best, if the UN stepped-in, and committed to their relocation - with the logistics, funding and muscle, to make it happen.

It would require the UN to work with neighboring countries, to identify regions - not adjacent to Eretz Yisrael (see the 1922 LoN partition-proposal map for details) - where they could begin new and far happier lives.

Israel itself could chip-in with a sizable percentage of the funding for this, as well as the US, the EU, and any Muslim country that wishes to help salvage those lost souls.

It represents thinking outside the box - and it requires the setting aside of much biased UN positioning over the past 66 years - but it's the only sane thing left to do.

Too much blood has been spilled - there is no going back - a permanent, negotiated peace is no longer possible.

We have a true Gordian Knot on our hands here - something which can no longer be untied.

Israel is the one-and-only side that possesses a sword capable of hacking through that Gordian Knot.

It seems that the time has come, for the world (the UN) to step-in and to relocate the Losers to safer environs, before the intransigent, foolhardy Palestinians bring a Final Disaster down upon their own heads, and force the Israelis to hack that Gordian Knot, after all.

The UN cannot destroy the State of Israel.

The UN can, however, relieve the long-standing plight of the Palestinians, by recognizing Reality, and re-locating the Palestinians, permanently.

If the UN is ever again to be seen as as a viable peacemaker in this part of the world, it is going to have to undertake this sad, long-overdue mission, in the not-too-distant future.

The sooner it gets underway, the more lives are saved - on the Israeli side, certainly, but, vastly and incomparably more so, on the Palestinian side.
 
You've lost...Take the hint...Leave...While you still can...

Years ago until the Dolphinarium bombing, I was actually a supporter of the 2-state solution, but after that bombing and its aftermath with the mass celebrations by the arab muslims, along with stepping back and more broadly reviewing the mideast situation where arab muslims are doing much the same to every other non-muslim group, I began to realize that only a mass expulsion of the arabs who call themselves palestinians was the only rational solution.

I don't care who/what your cause is, what your grievances are, etc., a people and culture that deliberately targets hundreds of 14 year olds - and then celebrates their mass murder in a carnival-like atmosphere - are absolute garbage and can no longer be respected or treated as human.

That attack had a deep effect on me, and has eliminated any consideration of the arab muslim perspective/narrative as anything but a plastic fig leaf/cover for a Big Lie. A real, legitimate people would never resort to such actions, nor would they mass celebrate it as if it were mardi gras.

Even though I'd known for years that this was never a land dispute, and that there had to be SOME rational arab muslims amongst them who just wanted to live out their lives in peace, they lost me forever as someone who could respect and at least listen to their grievances and defend their perspective. But after that bombing, they lost me, and can never recover my sympathies. Had Israel ethnically cleansed them all out, as so many other countries like Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait, and Iraq have done, it would have been wholly justifiable.

So ultimately kondor3 you are correct, it would be best if the arab muslims moved en masse on their own out of the west bank and gaza to jordan, syria, saudi arabia, iran or some other region that would be more suitable for them. They have no future in their current locations.
...So ultimately kondor3 you are correct, it would be best if the arab muslims moved en masse on their own out of the west bank and gaza to jordan, syria, saudi arabia, iran or some other region that would be more suitable for them. They have no future in their current locations.
Agreed.

A one-state solution is impossible.

A two-state solution is impossible.

Leaving the removal of one side or the other as the only logical alternative.

Losers do not dictate terms.

And the Palestinians are the clear losers in this 66-year-long sporadic asymmetrical warfare.

At this very late juncture, it would probably be best, if the UN stepped-in, and committed to their relocation - with the logistics, funding and muscle, to make it happen.

It would require the UN to work with neighboring countries, to identify regions - not adjacent to Eretz Yisrael (see the 1922 LoN partition-proposal map for details) - where they could begin new and far happier lives.

Israel itself could chip-in with a sizable percentage of the funding for this, as well as the US, the EU, and any Muslim country that wishes to help salvage those lost souls.

It represents thinking outside the box - and it requires the setting aside of much biased UN positioning over the past 66 years - but it's the only sane thing left to do.

Too much blood has been spilled - there is no going back - a permanent, negotiated peace is no longer possible.

We have a true Gordian Knot on our hands here - something which can no longer be untied.

Israel is the one-and-only side that possesses a sword capable of hacking through that Gordian Knot.

It seems that the time has come, for the world (the UN) to step-in and to relocate the Losers to safer environs, before the intransigent, foolhardy Palestinians bring a Final Disaster down upon their own heads, and force the Israelis to hack that Gordian Knot, after all.

The UN cannot destroy the State of Israel.

The UN can, however, relieve the long-standing plight of the Palestinians, by recognizing Reality, and re-locating the Palestinians, permanently.

If the UN is ever again to be seen as as a viable peacemaker in this part of the world, it is going to have to undertake this sad, long-overdue mission, in the not-too-distant future.

The sooner it gets underway, the more lives are saved - on the Israeli side, certainly, but, vastly and incomparably more so, on the Palestinian side.

Israel made a bad mistake making peace offerings to Palestinians, building a security fence & granting them their own land. When will Israel ever learn from the surrounding Arab countries how to deal with Palestinians? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!
 
Israel itself could chip-in with a sizable percentage of the funding for this, as well as the US, the EU, and any Muslim country that wishes to help salvage those lost souls.

I agree with everything but this statement, since it is the arab muslims/non-arab muslims who are the primary causes of this conflict and have stoked it for decades that should be responsible for funding the entire action - both the planning and execution of the mass migration. The West does not hold any culpability in this situation, and given the vast wealth of the arab oil nations, they can easily cover it.

These oil arabs may fight this action tooth and nail because it will eliminate the deflective card they have so carefully played for 75 years to control their restive, miserable populations to get them to not think about the dictatorships they suffer under, i.e., the real reasons they are so poor.
 
Israel itself could chip-in with a sizable percentage of the funding for this, as well as the US, the EU, and any Muslim country that wishes to help salvage those lost souls.

I agree with everything but this statement, since it is the arab muslims/non-arab muslims who are the primary causes of this conflict and have stoked it for decades that should be responsible for funding the entire action - both the planning and execution of the mass migration. The West does not hold any culpability in this situation, and given the vast wealth of the arab oil nations, they can easily cover it.

These oil arabs may fight this action tooth and nail because it will eliminate the deflective card they have so carefully played for 75 years to control their restive, miserable populations to get them to not think about the dictatorships they suffer under, i.e., the real reasons they are so poor.
Look at it this way... it would be the Israelis benefiting from a large-scale UN intervention to evacuate and relocate the remaining Palestinians.

Consider it payment for the few scraps of land that would be transferred to Israel as a result of such an evacuation.

Consider it wergeld - compensation for war damages or losses.

If the UN ever did, by some miracle, undertake such an evacuation and relocation, wergeld would be a small price to pay, to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to establish a long-lasting peace, with the idiot Palestinians safely out of the way.

Under such circumstances, I would recommend not being 'cheap' about it... as much a matter of 'face' and a 'PR' and goodwill thing, as anything else.

Or so it seems to this observer.
 
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...realize that these atrocities are a result of an oppressive occupation and the destruction of a people and culture that had nothing to do with the Holocaust...

the_worlds_smallest_violin-s511x284-104397.jpg


Pack up and leave what's left of Rump Palestine while you still can...

Get your family and people out of there, while there is still time...

You've lost...

Go away...
Best you join the IDF Chicken Little, I don't see anyone moving...Cheerleading alone like a sissy won't do it!
You don't see anyone moving?

From your own propaganda websites...


FourMaps.jpg


The map seems to tell a different story...

Pretty soon, we'll be asking ourselves how many Palestinians can dance on the head of a pin...

As they stand on top of each other's shoulders, stacked ten-high, perched on a postage stamp...

You go right ahead and stick to your plan... stay where you are... get your kids killed... make your families even more miserable...

Or do the sane thing... pack up... get your people the hell out of that insane asylum... and go build new and better and happier lives elsewhere...

For your family, if nothing else...

Get a clue...

You've lost...

Take the hint...

Leave...

While you still can...
Oh thank you Sir Limp...using your Logic of how well Israel has squeezed out the Palestinians, why are there around five million Palestinians living in Rump Palestine as you interestingly like to call it, when they started with roughly a million and a half?

Seems like your generalship is that of a fool.
 
...Oh thank you Sir Limp...using your Logic of how well Israel has squeezed out the Palestinians, why are there around five million Palestinians living in Rump Palestine as you interestingly like to call it, when they started with roughly a million and a half?...
This is not about the number of warm-bodies still standing on top of a postage stamp.

This is about squeezing the remaining controlled land-mass from a viable size to that of a postage stamp.

...Seems like your generalship is that of a fool.
There is no generalship at work here.

Merely logical and accurate observation.
 
...Oh thank you Sir Limp...using your Logic of how well Israel has squeezed out the Palestinians, why are there around five million Palestinians living in Rump Palestine as you interestingly like to call it, when they started with roughly a million and a half?...
This is not about the number of warm-bodies still standing on top of a postage stamp.

This is about squeezing the remaining controlled land-mass from a viable size to that of a postage stamp.

...Seems like your generalship is that of a fool.
There is no generalship at work here.

Merely logical and accurate observation.
logical and accurate only in a delusional mind because it does not nearly resemble any reality on the ground, i.e. how much land mass is not occupied by a majority of Palestinians since the 67 armistice lines?.
 
...Oh thank you Sir Limp...using your Logic of how well Israel has squeezed out the Palestinians, why are there around five million Palestinians living in Rump Palestine as you interestingly like to call it, when they started with roughly a million and a half?...
This is not about the number of warm-bodies still standing on top of a postage stamp.

This is about squeezing the remaining controlled land-mass from a viable size to that of a postage stamp.

...Seems like your generalship is that of a fool.
There is no generalship at work here.

Merely logical and accurate observation.
logical and accurate only in a delusional mind because it does not nearly resemble any reality on the ground, i.e. how much land mass is not occupied by a majority of Palestinians since the 67 armistice lines?.
Are you disputing the loss of land, as outlined by the Palestinian's own propaganda maps, on their website 'If Americans Only Knew'?

Are the Palestinian own maps of shrinking land a lie, after all?
 
...Oh thank you Sir Limp...using your Logic of how well Israel has squeezed out the Palestinians, why are there around five million Palestinians living in Rump Palestine as you interestingly like to call it, when they started with roughly a million and a half?...
This is not about the number of warm-bodies still standing on top of a postage stamp.

This is about squeezing the remaining controlled land-mass from a viable size to that of a postage stamp.

...Seems like your generalship is that of a fool.
There is no generalship at work here.

Merely logical and accurate observation.
logical and accurate only in a delusional mind because it does not nearly resemble any reality on the ground, i.e. how much land mass is not occupied by a majority of Palestinians since the 67 armistice lines?.
Are you disputing the loss of land, as outlined by the Palestinian's own propaganda maps, on their website 'If Americans Only Knew'?

Are the Palestinian own maps of shrinking land a lie, after all?
illegal settlements don't count for skittle-crap or Israel's annexations...Just outline the present INTERNATIONAL boundaries of 2014...
 
...illegal settlements don't count for skittle-crap or Israel's annexations...Just outline the present INTERNATIONAL boundaries of 2014...
Translation: "Yeah, you're right, Kondor, the lands controlled by the Palestinians have shrunk to very small proportions."

We're not talking about your (side's) perceived (and defunct) title to land.

We're talking about the Real World, and what the Palestinians still control, and how little there remains of that original portion.

We're talking about how much longer 5,000,000 Palestinians can dance on the head of a pin, before they pull-up stakes and head for greener pastures.

Are you operating under the impression that anything else signifies, from this point forward?
 
Clearly there is no good reason for murdering four unarmed men worshiping. Palestinians incite so much hate and vile, attacking unarmed worshipers is a way of life for them.
 
...illegal settlements don't count for skittle-crap or Israel's annexations...Just outline the present INTERNATIONAL boundaries of 2014...
Translation: "Yeah, you're right, Kondor, the lands controlled by the Palestinians have shrunk to very small proportions."

We're not talking about your (side's) perceived (and defunct) title to land.

We're talking about the Real World, and what the Palestinians still control, and how little there remains of that original portion.

We're talking about how much longer 5,000,000 Palestinians can dance on the head of a pin, before they pull-up stakes and head for greener pastures.

Are you operating under the impression that anything else signifies, from this point forward?
Talking to one of my Jewish friends today; he wondered out loud how any Jews want to live there? They'll eventually all leave that whacky are.

I believe him.
 
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...Talking to one of my Jewish friends today; he wondered out loud how any Jews want to live there? They'll eventually all leave that whacky are. I believe him.
There are plenty of Jews worldwide to whom Israel is not terribly important. Alternatively, there are plenty of Jews worldwide whom believe that Israelis all-important.

So long as there are more of the latter than the former, Israel will continue to live, and to thrive.

After 1900 years, it's a good guess that the latter will continue to outnumber the former, by several orders of magnitude, for many generations to come.
 

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