Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza, Open Fire On Palestinian Farmers

[aris2chat]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

 

[toastman]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

 

[Billo_Really]

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

And there wasn't any major incidents of violence, until AFTER Zionists showed up.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom

I'm not sure if this one counts as a "major incident". According to Wikipedia...

The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded.

It should also be noted, this was at the top of the Wiki page...

The neutrality of this article's title, subject matter, and/or the title's implications, is disputed.

In any event, I'll give you this one.

1834 Hebron Massacre

This was a peasants revolt and not a specific attack on Jews only.

1929 Safed Riots

This occurred after the migration.

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

Well, you get 1/2 point for that.

In summary, you listed one incident of major violence in the span of 100 years.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Why were they revolting?

 

[P F Tinmore]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

So why did those dumbards go to Palestine if it was not safe?

 

[montelatici]

Europeans were sometimes attacked by the Native Americans, they were not

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

It is peculiar how an invading population can claim that hostilities are started by the people they are invading. In any case, hostilities were initiated by the European Jews almost immediately upon their arrival, as confirmed by Ahad Ha'am in the late 1800s.

" The behaviour of settlers disturbed him. They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

David Goldberg The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region s enmity Comment is free The Guardian

 

[toastman]

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

And there wasn't any major incidents of violence, until AFTER Zionists showed up.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom

I'm not sure if this one counts as a "major incident". According to Wikipedia...

The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded.

It should also be noted, this was at the top of the Wiki page...

The neutrality of this article's title, subject matter, and/or the title's implications, is disputed.

In any event, I'll give you this one.

1834 Hebron Massacre

This was a peasants revolt and not a specific attack on Jews only.

1929 Safed Riots

This occurred after the migration.

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

Well, you get 1/2 point for that.

In summary, you listed one incident of major violence in the span of 100 years.

I listed several, and if you don't believe the wiki one, you will find other articles on google.
Remember, these do not include the violent attacks that Rocco posted: 1929 Hebron Massacre and the 1936-1939 revolt.

BTW, are you a San Fran fan ?

 

[toastman]

Europeans were sometimes attacked by the Native Americans, they were not

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

It is peculiar how an invading population can claim that hostilities are started by the people they are invading. In any case, hostilities were initiated by the European Jews almost immediately upon their arrival, as confirmed by Ahad Ha'am in the late 1800s.

" The behaviour of settlers disturbed him. They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

David Goldberg The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region s enmity Comment is free The Guardian

Again, an invasion is a military offensive by combatants as I already proved. And yes, the violent acts WERE initiated by the Arabs as I posted with links. You have not posted any attacks against Arabs that predate the ones I posted against Jews.
once more, the European Jews were also INVITED BY THE BRITISH.
It's really pathetic that you need to lie all the time to make your point.

 

[toastman]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

So why did those dumbards go to Palestine if it was not safe?

What a stupid question

 

[montelatici]

Europeans were sometimes attacked by the Native Americans, they were not

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.
After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

Where's your proof of that?

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

It is peculiar how an invading population can claim that hostilities are started by the people they are invading. In any case, hostilities were initiated by the European Jews almost immediately upon their arrival, as confirmed by Ahad Ha'am in the late 1800s.

" The behaviour of settlers disturbed him. They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

David Goldberg The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region s enmity Comment is free The Guardian

Again, an invasion is a military offensive by combatants as I already proved. And yes, the violent acts WERE initiated by the Arabs as I posted with links. You have not posted any attacks against Arabs that predate the ones I posted against Jews.
once more, the European Jews were also INVITED BY THE BRITISH.
It's really pathetic that you need to lie all the time to make your point.

How can people living in a particular place be accused of starting hostilities against people from another continent intent on stealing their land and evicting them? You are truly out of your mind. You just can't get it through your thick skull that the Jews came from Europe to take the land away from the people living there. So, your contention is that the British invited the Jews to settle in Palestine, take the land from the non-Jews and then evict them. You are a madman.

 

[Billo_Really]

I listed several,

You listed 3.

and if you don't believe the wiki one,

The "wiki one" served its purpose.

you will find other articles on google.

No need to.

Remember, these do not include the violent attacks that Rocco posted:

Rocco's posts are a violent attack. I find his data dumps pretty rude.

1929 Hebron Massacre and the 1936-1939 revolt.

The '29 Massacre was started by Zionists and the '36-39 revolt I haven't researched yet, so I won't comment on it at this present time.

BTW, are you a San Fran fan ?

I despise Frisco. I hate everything east of the Rockies.

BTW, we beat the Nuggets last night with the oldest backcourt in the league.

 

[toastman]

I listed several,

You listed 3.

and if you don't believe the wiki one,

The "wiki one" served its purpose.

you will find other articles on google.

No need to.

Remember, these do not include the violent attacks that Rocco posted:

Rocco's posts are a violent attack. I find his data dumps pretty rude.

1929 Hebron Massacre and the 1936-1939 revolt.

The '29 Massacre was started by Zionists and the '36-39 revolt I haven't researched yet, so I won't comment on it at this present time.

BTW, are you a San Fran fan ?

I despise Frisco. I hate everything east of the Rockies.

BTW, we beat the Nuggets last night with the oldest backcourt in the league.

The Hebron Massacre was Arabs Massacring Jews, plain and simple. They did nothing that would justify the behavior of the Arabs.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Just two points:

Remember, these do not include the violent attacks that Rocco posted:

Rocco's posts are a violent attack. I find his data dumps pretty rude.

(COMMENT)

I'm not sure that I advocated any violence what-so-ever (at least in recent times) in my remarks --- let alone make some "violent attacks."

In the off chance that my commentary might have had some violent overtone, I went back and looked at it again. I see nothing that supports your allegation.

1929 Hebron Massacre and the 1936-1939 revolt.

The '29 Massacre was started by Zionists and the '36-39 revolt I haven't researched yet, so I won't comment on it at this present time.

(OBSERVATION)

I offer the following for your consideration:

39. On the 15th August, 1929, some hundreds of young Jews organised a demonstration at the Wailing Wall, in the course of which the Zionist flag was raised and the Zionist anthem sung. Incensed by this, the Moslems held a counter-demonstration at the same spot on the following day, when written prayers placed in the crevices of the wall by Jewish worshippers were taken out and burned.

40. there followed a week of extreme tension. Then, between the 23rd and the 29th August, murderous attacks were made by Arabs on Jews in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safad and in rural areas. In this outbreak 133 Jews were killed (over 60 at Hebron) and 339 wounded. Arab casualties, mostly inflicted by the troops or police, were 116 killed and 232 wounded.

SOURCE: The Political History of Palestine under British Administration ----- Memorandum by His Britannic Majesty's Government presented in 1947 ---- A/AC.14/8 2 October 1947

73. The Arab rising in Palestine, which began in April, 1936, was influenced by the recent example of nationalist movements in neighbouring Arab countries. Rioting in Egypt during the autumn of 1935 had been followed by a declaration of the British government’s willingness to negotiate an Anglo-Egyptian Treaty. And in January, 1936, a strike began in Syria which was not terminated until the French government announced their decision to negotiate an agreement for the termination of the Mandate.
The Arab Rebellion, 1936-1939

74. On the night of the 15th April, 1936, three Jews were killed by Arabs between Tulkarm and Nablus. On the following night two Arabs were killed near the Jewish town of Petah Tiqva. These murders led to disorders in Jaffa and Tel Aviv a few days later.

75. These incidents were immediately followed by the formation of Nations Committees in all the Arab towns and in the larger villages. On the 21st April, the leaders of the five Arab parties called a general strike. On the 25th they formed a Supreme Arab Committee, subsequently known as the Arab Higher Committee, under the presidency of the Mufti of Jerusalem. The Committee decreed that the strike should continue until Jewish immigration was suspended.

76. The strike was accompanied by widespread violence, which took various forms-destruction of Jewish property and sniping at Jewish settlements, sabotage of communications, sporadic shooting and bomb throwing in the towns. Most of this was the work of loosely organized bands based in the Judaean hills, a country which they knew intimately and which did not lend itself to effective counter-measures by the military. These were also hampered by the sympathy of the population with the rebels, and the consequent difficulty in obtaining information.

SOURCE: The Political History of Palestine under British Administration ----- Memorandum by His Britannic Majesty's Government presented in 1947 ---- A/AC.14/8 2 October 1947

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

The Hebron Massacre was Arabs Massacring Jews, plain and simple. They did nothing that would justify the behavior of the Arabs.

Doesn't matter whether it was justified or not, Zionists started the riots when hundreds of them marched down to the Wailing Wall declaring it "THEIRS!"

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag

If Zionists weren't so god-damn selfish, the riots might never of happened.

 

[Billo_Really]

Just two points:

I'm not sure that I advocated any violence what-so-ever (at least in recent times) in my remarks --- let alone make some "violent attacks."

I didn't say you advocated violence or made some violent attacks. I said I found your posts to be a violent attack. One runs the risk of retinal damage reading these "page long" rebuttals of yours. Winning an argument or online debate, is not based on the size of your post. In addition to that, the effort one has to go through, just to respond to your posts, is disgusting. It's as though you are punishing the reader for his rebuttal.

In the off chance that my commentary might have had some violent overtone, I went back and looked at it again. I see nothing that supports your allegation.

Maybe because I didn't make it. You should go back and read "my" commentary and spend a little more time understanding the point "I" was trying to make.

I offer the following for your consideration:

The disorders of August 1929
39. On the 15th August, 1929, some hundreds of young Jews organised a demonstration at the Wailing Wall, in the course of which the Zionist flag was raised and the Zionist anthem sung. Incensed by this, the Moslems held a counter-demonstration at the same spot on the following day, when written prayers placed in the crevices of the wall by Jewish worshippers were taken out and burned.

Interesting how your source doesn't say what song they were singing?

Arab Rising
73. The Arab rising in Palestine, which began in April, 1936, was influenced by the recent example of nationalist movements in neighbouring Arab countries. Rioting in Egypt during the autumn of 1935 had been followed by a declaration of the British government’s willingness to negotiate an Anglo-Egyptian Treaty. And in January, 1936, a strike began in Syria which was not terminated until the French government announced their decision to negotiate an agreement for the termination of the Mandate.
The Arab Rebellion, 1936-1939

74. On the night of the 15th April, 1936, three Jews were killed by Arabs between Tulkarm and Nablus. On the following night two Arabs were killed near the Jewish town of Petah Tiqva. These murders led to disorders in Jaffa and Tel Aviv a few days later.

75. These incidents were immediately followed by the formation of Nations Committees in all the Arab towns and in the larger villages. On the 21st April, the leaders of the five Arab parties called a general strike. On the 25th they formed a Supreme Arab Committee, subsequently known as the Arab Higher Committee, under the presidency of the Mufti of Jerusalem. The Committee decreed that the strike should continue until Jewish immigration was suspended.

76. The strike was accompanied by widespread violence, which took various forms-destruction of Jewish property and sniping at Jewish settlements, sabotage of communications, sporadic shooting and bomb throwing in the towns. Most of this was the work of loosely organized bands based in the Judaean hills, a country which they knew intimately and which did not lend itself to effective counter-measures by the military. These were also hampered by the sympathy of the population with the rebels, and the consequent difficulty in obtaining information.

The '36 riots were more directed at the British government in Palestine, than it was the Jews.

And there was one feature of this last outbreak of Arab violence which was as unprecedented as it was significant. In 1920, 1921 and 1929 the Arabs had attacked the Jews. In 1933 they attacked the Government .

 

[toastman]

The Hebron Massacre was Arabs Massacring Jews, plain and simple. They did nothing that would justify the behavior of the Arabs.

Doesn't matter whether it was justified or not, Zionists started the riots when hundreds of them marched down to the Wailing Wall declaring it "THEIRS!"

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag

If Zionists weren't so god-damn selfish, the riots might never of happened.

It DOES matter if it was justified or not. The original discussion was who started attacking who, and the answer to that is CLEARLY the Arabs started attacking the Jews. Weather or weather not they claimed the Wall to be theirs only, that doesn't merit the killing of all those women and children.

 

[toastman]

Europeans were sometimes attacked by the Native Americans, they were not

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

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don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

It is peculiar how an invading population can claim that hostilities are started by the people they are invading. In any case, hostilities were initiated by the European Jews almost immediately upon their arrival, as confirmed by Ahad Ha'am in the late 1800s.

" The behaviour of settlers disturbed him. They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

David Goldberg The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region s enmity Comment is free The Guardian

Again, an invasion is a military offensive by combatants as I already proved. And yes, the violent acts WERE initiated by the Arabs as I posted with links. You have not posted any attacks against Arabs that predate the ones I posted against Jews.
once more, the European Jews were also INVITED BY THE BRITISH.
It's really pathetic that you need to lie all the time to make your point.

How can people living in a particular place be accused of starting hostilities against people from another continent intent on stealing their land and evicting them? You are truly out of your mind. You just can't get it through your thick skull that the Jews came from Europe to take the land away from the people living there. So, your contention is that the British invited the Jews to settle in Palestine, take the land from the non-Jews and then evict them. You are a madman.

Very simple Monti. All the massacres and attack against the Jews happened BEFORE any evicting. The evicting took place during the civil war and the Arab Israeli war. Are you that stupid that you cannot comprehend that ARABS TARTED KILLING JEWS WAY BEFORE ANY OF THE STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAPPENED.
It was only after 5 Arab armies started attacking Israel, that Israel fought back and advanced through the territory.

It's incredible that you cannot understand the simple concept of events taking place prior to other events.

 

[aris2chat]

The Hebron Massacre was Arabs Massacring Jews, plain and simple. They did nothing that would justify the behavior of the Arabs.

Doesn't matter whether it was justified or not, Zionists started the riots when hundreds of them marched down to the Wailing Wall declaring it "THEIRS!"

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag

If Zionists weren't so god-damn selfish, the riots might never of happened.

Nebi and Jaffa riots were in the early twenties.

1868, '87, '90, '91, '95, '97, 1900, '03, '08 ........ saw arab protest over the permission of jewish aliyas and settlement of jews on purchased land

Britain had been promoting the idea of a jewish state 60 years before the first zionish congress in 1897.

1881 and 82 was anti-christian riots by the arabs.

Don't act like it was anything except the arabs that began violence in the area. You obviously did not bother to get all the facts before opening your mouth (typing on the keyboard)

 

[Humanity]

Europeans were sometimes attacked by the Native Americans, they were not

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don't forget the '36 arab revolts

Yes, those revolts are what really changed things in the region in the sense that the Jews were sick of being on the defensive and starting going on the offensive.
It\s absolutely 100% true that Arabs started the hostilities. The evidence is just overwhelming, which is why I laugh when I see pro Palestinians try to make it seem like Jews started attacking first.

It is peculiar how an invading population can claim that hostilities are started by the people they are invading. In any case, hostilities were initiated by the European Jews almost immediately upon their arrival, as confirmed by Ahad Ha'am in the late 1800s.

" The behaviour of settlers disturbed him. They had not learned from experience as a minority, but, like a slave who has become king, "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, infringe upon their boundaries, hit them shamefully without reason, and even brag about it". The Arab did indeed respect strength, but only when the other side used it justly. When his opponent's actions were unjust and oppressive, then "he may keep his anger to himself for a time ... but in the long run he will prove to be vengeful and full of retribution".

David Goldberg The 1907 writings of one traveller to Palestine vividly describe the roots of the region s enmity Comment is free The Guardian

Again, an invasion is a military offensive by combatants as I already proved. And yes, the violent acts WERE initiated by the Arabs as I posted with links. You have not posted any attacks against Arabs that predate the ones I posted against Jews.
once more, the European Jews were also INVITED BY THE BRITISH.
It's really pathetic that you need to lie all the time to make your point.

How can people living in a particular place be accused of starting hostilities against people from another continent intent on stealing their land and evicting them? You are truly out of your mind. You just can't get it through your thick skull that the Jews came from Europe to take the land away from the people living there. So, your contention is that the British invited the Jews to settle in Palestine, take the land from the non-Jews and then evict them. You are a madman.

Very simple Monti. All the massacres and attack against the Jews happened BEFORE any evicting. The evicting took place during the civil war and the Arab Israeli war. Are you that stupid that you cannot comprehend that ARABS TARTED KILLING JEWS WAY BEFORE ANY OF THE STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAPPENED.
It was only after 5 Arab armies started attacking Israel, that Israel fought back and advanced through the territory.

It's incredible that you cannot understand the simple concept of events taking place prior to other events.

Yes, it is incredible that you cannot understand the simple concept of events taking place prior to other events...

Imagine this...

A group of people from one continent move to another, against the will of the local inhabitants, and the local inhabitants 'protest'...

Can you see the concept of events now?

 

[Phoenall]

theliq, et al,

This is so much nonsense.

P F Tinmore, et al,

As previously stated: The immigration was in accordance with the authority of the Mandatory.

The Zionist imports fit which one of these definitions?

(COMMENT)

This is merely a choice between two equally erroneous options; a false dilemma.

Most Respectfully,
R

Sorry but the Illegal Jews,started a Terrorist War against the Palestinians and the British circa 1937 in response to the hordes of Illegals trying to invade Palestine...which the British had banned by this time...so much for your erroneous comment.

BSERVATION)

Not that it makes much difference today, but the Palestinian Terrorism was well organized and function seven years before this. One such organization was know as the "Palestinian Black Hand" (PBH)(al-Kaff al-Aswad‎) --- an armed terrorist group founded in 1930 and led by Syrian-born Sheik Izz ad-Din al-Qassam (HAMAS martyr and name sake of the Brigade). By 1935 the PBH had between 500 to 800 men, operating in small cells and targeting Jewish settlers in northern Palestine. The PBH and Sheik al-Qassam were the first to openly use the "call to Jihad" in their recruitment for members.

(COMMENT)

The evolutionary sequences was:

• 1907 Bar-Giora Jewish commercial self-defense entity for hire (Business Motto: Habiryonim: "In fire and blood") --- operating during the period when approximately 20,000 Jews immigrated the Mandate Territory. This commercial entity was not employed by all immigrant settlements. It was the first competitor to Arab guards had been hired for protection.
• 1909 Hashomer ("The Watchman") The goal of The Watchmen were an expanded version of the Bar Giora. It's mission was to settling the land and guarding it from Arab attackers. The purpose of Hashomer was to provide guard services for Jewish settlements in the re-organization of defense needs for all the Jewish communities in Palestine. Many of The Watchmen were to become members of the Jewish Legion (Battalions of the Royal Fusiliers, British Army) or members of the Mounted Constabulary Units (British Colonial Police Service) established in the Mandatory of Palestine.
• 1920 Haganah ("The Defence") The mission of the Haganah was strictly defensive in nature and did not engage in counterattacks against Arab gangs. This was a point of contention as the threat from organized Arab Gangs grew more intense. With the rise of the PBH, the first of the splinter groups broke-off from the Haganah in 1931.
• 1931 Irgun [Haganah Bet ("Defense B" or "Second Defense")] To meet the growing threat from Arab Terrorists and first generation Jihadists, like the PBH, the Irgun formed out of resources of the Haganah. This was the first of the Jewish Offensive force structures. It was an independent group outside the control and leadership of the Haganah.
• 1940 Lehi (AKA: Stern Gang --- thought of as the "The National Military Organization in the Land of Israel") Was a radical element, and the most dangerous from a political and paramilitary perspective. Much like the Arab counterparts, The Lehi operated against British authority, with the objective of open immigration (no quota or limitation) and the formation of a Jewish state (Totalitarian Hebrew Republic). It also openly rejected the authority of the Jewish Agency. The Lehi, not unlike HAMAS of today, financed their operations from private donations, extortion, bank robbery and other criminal enterprizes. The Lehi had generally been opposed and even condemned by the more moderate Jewish Leadership who considered it somewhat of a political embarrassment and an albatross to international diplomatic efforts. After 1948, and the creation of the Jewish State of Israel --- the leadership could no longer afford the unrestrained Lehi to run free. It was essentially disbanded and/or absorbed.

In unconventional and fourth generation warfare, where asymmetric forces are dominant and develop over time, there are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Jews started terrorist organizations to protect their colonial project.

What is your point?

What is yours when the evidence of ISLAMONAZI TERRORISM goes back to 632 C.E. under Mohamed the perfect muslim. Didn't he mass murder a Jewish tribe because they refused to worship him as god and then instigate an ethnic cleansing of the world Jews, starting with Medina. He tells the tale of murdering a man and raping his 12 year old daughter in his blood as an object lesson to all the other Jews in the M.E.

So who started terrorist organisations to protect their colonial project again.....................................