Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza, Open Fire On Palestinian Farmers

[P F Tinmore]

Approximately 50 years after the Zionist invasion.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion

An invasion is a military offensive idiot. There was no such thing as a Zionist invasion. That's just you parotting Palestinian propaganda.
What the 5 Arab states did in 1948 was an invasion.
I win. You lose. Again.

Indeed, and the Zionist invasion was under the cover of the British military.

You have reading comprehension issues.
So first I dismantle your original 'invasion' lie, and now you change your story by adding the British Military.
Lets try this again. An invasion is a MILITARY OFFENSIVE. In other words, an army going to another entity with a certain hostile goal.
The European Jews were not a military and there immigration was just that, not a military offensive.
Any military offensive began after Arab terrorists started killing and massacring Jews, as has been documented several times.

In conclusion, your invasion lie has been refuted. Of course your agenda is full of distortion and lies so you will still continue repeating it.

Britain maintained a large military presence during the mandate period. Britain's responsibilities under the LoN Covenant was to render administrative assistance and advise. No military was required for its assigned functions.

What did they use their military for that you think they were not required to?

To force colonization on the Palestinians at the point of a gun.

 

[theliq]

The Jews started terrorist organizations to protect their colonial project.

No wonder arab settlers and colonizers would call others terrorists, of course.

Well Doc Tinnie is right,and there is full Documentation regarding this matter....They were a very nasty form of Terrorists,much like ISIS today..steve

Ya, just like ISIS

Is it possible that your posts are getting stupider every time you curse us with your presence?

As I said You are merely a Strawman,and a compulsive Liar to Boot..........of course these Israeli Terrorists used murder and mayhem to Steal Palestine,and eliminate its legitimate population..............Just like ISIS are doing..........time to go back to the gutter from whence you came.

 

[toastman]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion

An invasion is a military offensive idiot. There was no such thing as a Zionist invasion. That's just you parotting Palestinian propaganda.
What the 5 Arab states did in 1948 was an invasion.
I win. You lose. Again.

Indeed, and the Zionist invasion was under the cover of the British military.

You have reading comprehension issues.
So first I dismantle your original 'invasion' lie, and now you change your story by adding the British Military.
Lets try this again. An invasion is a MILITARY OFFENSIVE. In other words, an army going to another entity with a certain hostile goal.
The European Jews were not a military and there immigration was just that, not a military offensive.
Any military offensive began after Arab terrorists started killing and massacring Jews, as has been documented several times.

In conclusion, your invasion lie has been refuted. Of course your agenda is full of distortion and lies so you will still continue repeating it.

Britain maintained a large military presence during the mandate period. Britain's responsibilities under the LoN Covenant was to render administrative assistance and advise. No military was required for its assigned functions.

What did they use their military for that you think they were not required to?

To force colonization on the Palestinians at the point of a gun.

Ya, right. You made that up to, just like you make everything up.

 

[toastman]

The Jews started terrorist organizations to protect their colonial project.

No wonder arab settlers and colonizers would call others terrorists, of course.

Well Doc Tinnie is right,and there is full Documentation regarding this matter....They were a very nasty form of Terrorists,much like ISIS today..steve

Ya, just like ISIS

Is it possible that your posts are getting stupider every time you curse us with your presence?

As I said You are merely a Strawman,and a compulsive Liar to Boot..........of course these Israeli Terrorists used murder and mayhem to Steal Palestine,and eliminate its legitimate population..............Just like ISIS are doing..........time to go back to the gutter from whence you came.

Ya, great argument dummie! You obviously are too stupid to even know what a strawman argumenf is, because you just made a massive fool out of yourself.
BTW, it was the Arabs who started with the massacres and killings. Get your shit straight you fuckin parrot

 

[toastman]

The Jews started terrorist organizations to protect their colonial project.

No wonder arab settlers and colonizers would call others terrorists, of course.

Well Doc Tinnie is right,and there is full Documentation regarding this matter....They were a very nasty form of Terrorists,much like ISIS today..steve

Ya, just like ISIS

Is it possible that your posts are getting stupider every time you curse us with your presence?

As I said You are merely a Strawman,and a compulsive Liar to Boot..........of course these Israeli Terrorists used murder and mayhem to Steal Palestine,and eliminate its legitimate population..............Just like ISIS are doing..........time to go back to the gutter from whence you came.

You also don't know anything about Israels declaration of independence. And it was called Mandatory Palestine and was administered by the British who facilitated Israels declaration of independence. Just because Arabs lived there, they still had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.
The Jews followed the prepatory steps to self determination and declared independence. In other words, they had their shit together while the terrorist single IQ Palestinians didn't. Hahaha

Boy it must suck to be a pro Palestinian, always being on the losing side

 

[RoccoR]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, and the Zionist invasion was under the cover of the British military.

You have reading comprehension issues.
So first I dismantle your original 'invasion' lie, and now you change your story by adding the British Military.
Lets try this again. An invasion is a MILITARY OFFENSIVE. In other words, an army going to another entity with a certain hostile goal.
The European Jews were not a military and there immigration was just that, not a military offensive.
Any military offensive began after Arab terrorists started killing and massacring Jews, as has been documented several times.

In conclusion, your invasion lie has been refuted. Of course your agenda is full of distortion and lies so you will still continue repeating it.

Britain maintained a large military presence during the mandate period. Britain's responsibilities under the LoN Covenant was to render administrative assistance and advise. No military was required for its assigned functions.

What did they use their military for that you think they were not required to?

To force colonization on the Palestinians at the point of a gun.

Ya, right. You made that up to, just like you make everything up.

So why do you think Britain needed a large military to render administrative assistance and advise?

 

[P F Tinmore]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

But I do agree with your first phrase.

 

[montelatici]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

They just want the European invader's offspring to return to Europe or elsewhere. Much like Saladin wanted when the Europeans ruled Palestine and beyond for over a century.

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

They just want the European invader's offspring to return to Europe or elsewhere. Much like Saladin wanted when the Europeans ruled Palestine and beyond for over a century.

Immitrants, not invaders. I already dismantles your invader lie yesterday.
And you're full if shit....they want Israel gone completely you terrorist supporting shill.
They are not going anywhere. Israelis living in Israel are living in their country.

 

[toastman]

You have reading comprehension issues.
So first I dismantle your original 'invasion' lie, and now you change your story by adding the British Military.
Lets try this again. An invasion is a MILITARY OFFENSIVE. In other words, an army going to another entity with a certain hostile goal.
The European Jews were not a military and there immigration was just that, not a military offensive.
Any military offensive began after Arab terrorists started killing and massacring Jews, as has been documented several times.

In conclusion, your invasion lie has been refuted. Of course your agenda is full of distortion and lies so you will still continue repeating it.

Britain maintained a large military presence during the mandate period. Britain's responsibilities under the LoN Covenant was to render administrative assistance and advise. No military was required for its assigned functions.

What did they use their military for that you think they were not required to?

To force colonization on the Palestinians at the point of a gun.

Ya, right. You made that up to, just like you make everything up.

So why do you think Britain needed a large military to render administrative assistance and advise?

How do you think they captured the region from the Ottomans? By asking them to leave?

 

[montelatici]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

Rocco this is just not true,I personally spoken to Jewish folk and They Said that prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do),yes they admit there were atrosities sic on both sides prior to 48 but the thought much more of Palestinians than the influx of non European Jews after 1948 and beyond......I have lived in Israel and the tales of Jews hating Palestinians and visa-versa is just Bullshit......Palestinians and Jews got on well at many Jewish and Palestinian events.........all this Hatred is propagated by Zionists,Ultras and other devisive sic Jews.steve Rocco some of your posts are fairly balanced and some not but your contribution is always welcome like Tinnies and others.I will add here that within Israel today there is a Schism between the Secular and Other Jewish Organizations.....of whom you would well know

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

They just want the European invader's offspring to return to Europe or elsewhere. Much like Saladin wanted when the Europeans ruled Palestine and beyond for over a century.

Immitrants, not invaders. I already dismantles your invader lie yesterday.
And you're full if shit....they want Israel gone completely you terrorist supporting shill.
They are not going anywhere. Israelis living in Israel are living in their country.

Christians and Muslims were living in Palestine. Jews from Europe went to Palestine and took over. It wasn't their country they were Europeans. It was clearly an invasion.

 

[Billo_Really]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

 

[Hossfly]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

They just want the European invader's offspring to return to Europe or elsewhere. Much like Saladin wanted when the Europeans ruled Palestine and beyond for over a century.

Immitrants, not invaders. I already dismantles your invader lie yesterday.
And you're full if shit....they want Israel gone completely you terrorist supporting shill.
They are not going anywhere. Israelis living in Israel are living in their country.

Christians and Muslims were living in Palestine. Jews from Europe went to Palestine and took over. It wasn't their country they were Europeans. It was clearly an invasion.

Listen and learn.

 

[montelatici]

Oh, more propaganda. Wonderful. What a silly twit you are.

 

[toastman]

You have serious reading comprehension issues. Your link does NOT prove your lie that there were no jobs Arabs.

Of coarse it does. I'll post it again.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization... Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929

At that time, if you couldn't work on a farm, where could you work? A "strict policy" of racial discrimination not allowing Arabs to work on farms. If you can't work, that means you got no job!

BTW, where's your proof there were jobs?

And the major outbreak of violence was started by the Arabs, as Rocco has pointed out by giving specific incidents.

Bullshit! There was no violence until Zionists migrated in with attitudes like yours. A large scale migration of narcissistic assholes, such as yourself, come into the area and immediately start treating the existing population of Arabs like garbage.

They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
- Ahad Ha'am

After being treated like that for awhile, the Arabs did oppose. If Zionists hadn't of came in and treated the Arabs like that, there wouldn't have been a major outbreak of violence. It was when the Zionists showed up, did the violence begin. It wasn't like that before.

We wish to point out here that the Jewish population of Palestine who lived there before the War never had any trouble with their Arab neighbours. They enjoyed the same rights and privileges as their fellow Ottoman citizens, and never agitated for the Declaration of November 1917. It is the Zionists outside Palestine who worked for the Balfour Declaration ...
- Winston Churchill

Never had any trouble with their Arab neighbors. But fuckers like you changed all that.

You always find some way to justify these attacks against Jews, but you are only making a fool of yourself.

I"m not justifying anything. I'm calling you on this bullshit rap you keep spewing.

ARABS STARTED WITH THE KILLINGS AND MASSACRES. EVEN BEFORE 1900.

Where's your proof of that?

You fail...again...
Stick to watching sports you deluded leftist

That was harsh! I think I'll report you?

Again, nothing you posted refutes the simple fact that ALL THE MASSACRES AND VIOLENCE WAS STARTED BY THE ARABS. Every massacre has a reason for it, but they don't justify it. Racism or no racism, not a single Arab was KILLED until AFTER Jews were killed.

I can't copy paste for some reason, but open Wikipedia and and type in the following:

1834 Safed Pogrom
1834 Hebron Massacre
1929 Safed Riots

There's your proof. BTW, these were not included in the attacks/massacres that Rocco posted.

 

[toastman]

BTW Billo, do you have any specific in incedents to violence against Arabs that precedes the attacks against Jews, or just a vague description?

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I think your post points out something very important. But first, I must clarify something that has been read into my commentary, but not said.

I never said that the Jewish and the Palestinians hated one another. In fact, I was very careful not to introduce emotion into the equation. What I did say was revolved around two points:

• [T]here are strains that evolve to be uncontrolled and therefore a serious and unpredictable dangers.
• Jewish People needed protection from Hostile Arab Palestinians even before the outbreak of WWI.

Remembering of course, that "Hostile Arab Palestinians" is a subset of "all Arab Palestinians;" (not all Palestinians are Hostile --- wherein there are non-Hostile Arab Palestinians) and that there are segments ("strains") of both communities (Jewish and Palestinians) that are uncontrollable, seriously unpredictable and dangerous.​

(COMMENT)

"Zionists, Ultras" Yes! There are within each population, on both sides (Israeli - Palestinian):

(Left-Wing Extremist Views) --- (Moderates and Temperate Views) --- (Right-Wing Extremist Views)​

We tend to assume the position that each commentary comes from either an Extremist View or is stating an Extremist View. It must be also understood that the description "prior to 1948 they got on very well with Palestinians(as still do)" is very frail, fore if it were more accurate than not --- then the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have been resolved many decades ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good points.

I don't believe that there is any inherent animosity between most Palestinians and Jews. The hostilities from both sides are the products of Israeli/Zionist policies. When we hear of the dismantlement or distruction of Israel it has nothing to do with the people. It is the changing of the regime that is causing all of the problems.

Load of crap. The hostility on both sides has a lot tk do with Palestinian terrorism against Israelis.
And when they say they want Israel destroyed, they mean it. If they meant a regime change then they would have said that. You're making excuses for them

They just want the European invader's offspring to return to Europe or elsewhere. Much like Saladin wanted when the Europeans ruled Palestine and beyond for over a century.

Immitrants, not invaders. I already dismantles your invader lie yesterday.
And you're full if shit....they want Israel gone completely you terrorist supporting shill.
They are not going anywhere. Israelis living in Israel are living in their country.

Christians and Muslims were living in Palestine. Jews from Europe went to Palestine and took over. It wasn't their country they were Europeans. It was clearly an invasion.

You cannot just make your own rules Monti. My previous posts clearly shows that your invasion lie is bullshit. Jews immigrating to Mandatory Palestine after BEING INVITED BY THE BRITISH (ya, the same British who were administered to the region after capturing the region from the Ottomans) is just that, an immigration. An invasion is a MILITARY OFFENSIVE where COMBATANTS go to another territory uninvited with military purpose. These immigrants were not combatants.
Only AFTER 5 Arabs INVADED the region, did Israel manage to push corward and conquer territory.
Israel did not attack Iraq or Syria or Egypt or Jordan or Lebanon. It was the other was around.

Nothing I said is my opinion. It is a fact that you cannot handle. You can keep spewing the same lie if you want, but it won't change the truth.